Surplus Pistol Powder From Wideners

[Jhlewis10]

http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.cfm?item_id=8265&dir=278|283|313

SM226 8LB SPHERICAL PISTOL POWDER (GREAT FOR 9MM-45ACP-40S&W) $82.00 FOR 8LB


Anyone have any data on this? What is compares to?

 

[trueblue1776]

I would guess it compare to a powder that does about this:

9mm 5.7gr 115gr FMJ 1145 fps Win/Win SP Glock 19

40 S&W 6.4gr 180gr FP Horn 1000 fps Fed/Wolf SP Glock 22

45 ACP 7.4gr 230 JHP Horn 845 fps Rem/Rem SP Colt 1911

 

[Walkalong]

Just going by the amounts they show for each caliber I would say medium slow. The charge amount is about avg. plus for the 9MM & .40 & heavy for the .45. That tells me it's around N350, Blue Dot, AA #7 etc. It should work well for 9MM & .40, but looks to be slower than I care for in the .45.

This is just a guess, mind you.

I saw that add for SM226 and if I was in need of powder, I would give it a chance. Wideners is pretty honest about their surplus stuff.

 

[Jhlewis10]

Thanks Walk, I am just starting in reloading. I saw the figures listed

9mm 5.7gr 115gr FMJ 1145 fps Win/Win SP Glock 19

40 S&W 6.4gr 180gr FP Horn 1000 fps Fed/Wolf SP Glock 22

45 ACP 7.4gr 230 JHP Horn 845 fps Rem/Rem SP Colt 1911

and did not know if that was a starting point or not. I have my turret set up and manuals on the way, and 2000 124 grn plated winchester bullets in the mail.

 

[Walkalong]

Those are not starting points. Those are max. Reduce 10% from those figures to start and work up. When you get set up and ready to load don't be hesitant to ask questions here at THR.

 

[brickeyee]

"...I am just starting in reloading."

Stay away from non-canister powders till you have a little more experience.

 

[sublimaze41]

Sounds tempting, but for less than 3 dollars per pound I would rather have a commercial powder. For ME it bothers me doing load development when I can't cross check it with published data.

 

[davinci]

do you know how many bullets you can get out of a single pound of powder?

Buy titegroup, it's got load data all over the place for almost everything and 'a little goes a long way' it's very fast burning powder, and I enjoy it thoroughly. Powder valley has titegroup for about $13 per pound, which makes about oh... 2500 or so 45acp or 9mm rounds, again THAT'S $13 FOR 2,500 ROUNDS (about one-half cent per round, lead bullets cost 5 cents or so, primers are about 2 cents each now). cut your costs somewhere else.

 

[putteral]

I agree. You can not go wrong with Titegroup

 

[evan price]

Local shop has Titegroup for $14 a pound and is always selling out of it faster than nearly anything. I buy a pound now whenever I go in there.
4.2 gr in a 124-gr 9mm, 4.7 gr in a 230-gr .45, the stuff lasts and lasts. Meters very well.

 

[zxcvbob]

You want a good cheap powder, pick up a keg of Alliant "Promo". It's about $10 per pound. Use Red Dot data; Promo uses Red Dot load data but it's a little less bulky (it's still a very bulky powder.) It works great in 9mm, .45 Colt, and .38 Special.

 

[Linear Thinker]

Unless you load in quantity, stay away from non-canister powders. The savings are marginal. If you do decide you want to play with industrial powders, buy a lot of it from the same lot. Next time you need it, it won't be available or the next lot will be very different.
LT