Survival horror scenarios in the UK mainland.

[GarandOwner]

Does this answer your question? If they arent legal, then Id want to be in senario 1. I couldnt "enjoy" a zombie attack without my trusty M1 garand and 1911 (with bayonet of course )

 

[Volkolak]

Wrong, my friend. It is not a Paul Chen sword, it is a battle ready reproduction of the sword of Emperor Albrecht II of Austria. I assure you that it is carbon steel, and rather sharp. http://www.swords.co.uk/english_and_...n_medieval.htm

So it is! It looks remarkably like the Paul Chen blunt that I have. That is a Paul Chen/Hanwei sword though, and the fact that a sword is made from the prope materials means nothing if it's not properly heat-treated, and the right sort of that material ism't used. The Albrecht is a decent one though.

At the risk of sounding like a mall ninja, I think if you're bringing a blade to a zombie party, it should be a katana.


Nah, I prefer European swords. A lot of people have misconceptions about Katanas and other Asian weaponry being "superior" to their European counterparts.

 

[Boom-stick]

In all honesty I'd probably make a trip to the zoo, a couple of Baboons and Hyenas chained up out front should make short work of the Zombies whilst the lions and tigers patrol the yard with 200lb rottweilers roaming indoors.

Not strictly weapons, but effective non-the less

 

[Cromlech]

Heres the link again to that coool website, the last ones seems to be broken.
http://www.swords.co.uk/

Volkolak wrote That is a Paul Chen/Hanwei sword though, and the fact that a sword is made from the prope materials means nothing if it's not properly heat-treated, and the right sort of that material ism't used. The Albrecht is a decent one though.

I stand corrected on it not being a Paul Chen sword!
It was sold as fully functional though, I believe it is a heat treated carbon steel one. I should hope so anyway, I went out of my way to avoid monkey-metal swords.

Volkolak wrote Nah, I prefer European swords. A lot of people have misconceptions about Katanas and other Asian weaponry being "superior" to their European counterparts.

You are so right, my friend. There seems to be this misconception in peoples minds that a katana is some sort of magical lightsaber.
In reality it is a good slashing weapon, meant for unarmoured targets (Samurai killing peasants) or against light armour (Bamboo and wood?) on other Samurai.
Against heavier European armour, I would want European weaponry.

In other words, big swords, big axes and maybe a nice flanged mace.
European weaponry is so much cooler than Asian.

 

[Boom-stick]

The far East did have their moments though, I mean, you can't really go wrong with a war-hammer

But if you need a firearm to go at a zombie with then I'd suggest 12g pump loaded with chain shot or slug rounds drilled out to hold primers

DIY pipebombs should be quite effective aswell.

 

[sterling180]

Does this answer your question? If they arent legal, then Id want to be in senario 1. I couldnt "enjoy" a zombie attack without my trusty M1 garand and 1911 (with bayonet of course )

Only on the Isle of Man,Northern Ireland and The Channel Islands,you could use your 1911 pistol-but I am unsure about your M1 Garand(Outside of the UK mainland.)-they like many other types of semi-auto centrefire rifles-were outlawed in 1989,in the UK mainland.

The bayonet,is 100% legal though.

 

[Diomed]

A lot of people have misconceptions about Katanas and other Asian weaponry being "superior" to their European counterparts.

I hope you don't mean me, as I think no such thing. I have no katanas, while I do have the three I mentioned in my post. But as Cromlech pointed out, katanas are good slashing weapons for use against unarmored targets, of which the walking mass of rotting meat must be the epitome. European swords are also more suited for mounted use, save the ones meant for infantry officers (go P1803! ).

 

[Boom-stick]

Does anyone recommend any other types of protection or equipment needed in a UK based SHTF situation?

 

[dhoomonyou]

Use a LIBERAL

I would pick up a LIBERAL and use them gun grabbing SOB's as clubs.

 

[nadeem]

i live in the uk, so id drive fast in my mums car to school, where the armoury door will have been left open, and so will the ammunition cupboard, i would take myself an SA-80 L86A2 Light support weapon and 900 rounds of ammunition. id bring a freind and he would get a L98 Cadet GP Rifle, he would load up my mags, getting back into the same car, my freind would drive and i would stick my head outa the sunroof, and we would drive all the way to Aldershot, Hampshire. There we would liberate a pair of Gimpies and blast away at the living dead to our hearts content with truckloads of link. i would however first have to learn how to operate the gimpy, but how hard can it be.


grab a few phos grenades while im at it and watch them BUUUUURN

 

[Boom-stick]

i live in the uk, so id drive fast in my mums car to school, where the armoury door will have been left open, and so will the ammunition cupboard, i would take myself an SA-80 L86A2 Light support weapon and 900 rounds of ammunition. id bring a freind and he would get a L98 Cadet GP Rifle, he would load up my mags, getting back into the same car, my freind would drive and i would stick my head outa the sunroof, and we would drive all the way to Aldershot, Hampshire. There we would liberate a pair of Gimpies and blast away at the living dead to our hearts content with truckloads of link. i would however first have to learn how to operate the gimpy, but how hard can it be.


grab a few phos grenades while im at it and watch them BUUUUURN

Dude, thanks for that, I've been feeling a bit down lately but reading your post has left a big smile on my face

But rather than an SA80 I think I'd feel better protected by grabbing a fresh sheet on A4 paper and paper cut the zombies to death

 

[Carl N. Brown]

Considering the pale complexion (often referred to as "pasty") of your average British citizen

OK, honestly, UK posters, How bad is the weather in UK?
What is the length in days of a typical stretch of dreary overcast foggy drizzle?
Or is legendary British weather a Benny Hill/Monty Python in-joke?

Oh, gun content: Survival horror scenarios in the UK mainland:
what about those Stens against walking plants in Day of the Triffids?
How many Stens were cached in UK against the possibility
of a German invasion, and how often fo they turn up?

 

[nadeem]

But rather than an SA80 I think I'd feel better protected by grabbing a fresh sheet on A4 paper and paper cut the zombies to death

well we have the LSW A2's at the moment and they arnt actually that bad, the A1s were shocking tho, out of 3, 2 broke in the first day. id only have the sa 80 till i got my gimpy and phos tho

OK, honestly, UK posters, How bad is the weather in UK?
What is the length in days of a typical stretch of dreary overcast foggy drizzle?
Or is legendary British weather a Benny Hill/Monty Python in-joke?

it really depends, recently the wether has been beutiful, but 2 weeks ago it was the most godawful place in the world, it was winding and raining constantly without stopping i hated it but yes british whether is awful

 

[sterling180]

Oh, gun content: Survival horror scenarios in the UK mainland:
what about those Stens against walking plants in Day of the Triffids?
How many Stens were cached in UK against the possibility
of a German invasion, and how often fo they turn up?

I don't know how many numbers,but there was probably quite alot,because it was a cheap and easy gun design,to produce in large-numbers-under harsh wartime conditions.
Most Stens were sold-off in the late 50s and 60s,when the Sterling SMG,eventually replaced them.

The ones that survived the war as well as those that wern't sold off,abroad- were kept in some UK military armouries and alot were licensed on Section1 Firearm licenses,which were eventually melted down or were deactivated in 1988/1989,unfortuantely-but in saying that Stens are easy to make and 9mm bullets are still available in the UK.But I would rather have an MP5 or SA80,from the police station and T/A Army base in Bexleyheath,Kent.

The ban that the Stens fell foul of,was the 1988 Firearm Ammendment Act.

 

[Boom-stick]

OK, honestly, UK posters, How bad is the weather in UK?
What is the length in days of a typical stretch of dreary overcast foggy drizzle?
Or is legendary British weather a Benny Hill/Monty Python in-joke?

Oh, gun content: Survival horror scenarios in the UK mainland:
what about those Stens against walking plants in Day of the Triffids?
How many Stens were cached in UK against the possibility
of a German invasion, and how often fo they turn up?

The weather in the UK is suffering badly from global climate changes, it used to be long hot summers with snowy winters, now it's just a mish-mash of nothing, when the sun come out you'll burn, when it rains it's a full on storm and when it's cold you'll freeze, not just get chilly, but freeze.
And it's not un-common to have all of the above weather in one day.

Certain parts of the UK are under drought conditions due to a very dry winter but on Monday there was a huge strom during the night, so the following day certain areas were under both 'flood warnings' and 'drought conditions'.

If it wasn't so depressing it would be funny.

As for the stens, well, if a cache ever sufaces no-one ever gets to hear about it, as stated above, a lot were melted down, whilst the rest were sent to africa to arm rebel troops etc......

 

[sterling180]

Well this guy was prepared,but he was a Neo-Nazi,who wanted to kill Muslims.
All this,in his house.

Officers found guns and explosives at Tovey's home

A racist who police believe was planning to launch a terror campaign has been jailed for 11 years.
Pipe bombs, a sub-machine gun, two shotguns, a pistol and bullets were discovered in the home of 37-year-old David Tovey.

Police say the loner was planning a one-man race war after uncovering the arsenal at his home in Canterton, Oxfordshire.

Sentencing Tovey at Oxford Crown Court on Friday, Judge Mary Jane Mowat said: "The weapons, the body-building equipment, the military car, the military clothing all suggest the fantasy life of a lone commando.


Tovey: House was store for "bomb factory"


"I think that the right catalyst could well have provoked him into acting out real violence against persons or property."

She said that, while he had never actually carried out any act of violence, her sentencing had to reflect the very real anxiety felt by the public about guns, bombs and racial hatred.

Tovey was arrested in February after scrawling abuse in a petrol station toilet in Stratford-upon-Avon.

The haul of weapons was only uncovered when police investigating a campaign of racist graffiti raided Tovey's house.

Neighbouring homes were evacuated and the bomb squad called in following the police raid in February 2002.

Tovey admitted three explosives charges and six firearms charges and was found guilty at a trial in October of two charges of racially aggravated criminal damage.

He was sentenced to a total of eight years for the firearms and explosives charges and a further three years for the two counts of racially aggravated graffiti, to run consecutively.

Judge Mowat made a recommendation that he serve at least half of the prison sentence.

After the court hearing, Detective Superintendent Steve Morrison, from Thames Valley Police, said: "This shows that racism will not be tolerated by the police in our communities."

Hidden arsenal


Among the weapons, ammunition, equipment and information found at Tovey's house were:

· a SPAZ pump-action smooth bore gun. Often used by swat teams in the US and shown in Hollywood action films, it has a range of 40m

· a second world war Sten submachine gun, adapted so that two or more missiles could be successively fired without repeated pressure on trigger. Deadly in close combat

· a Baikal pistol. A new barrel less than 30cm long and silencer had been added to this. Police believe Tovey adapted the weapon on his workbench

· a single shot weapon which had been disguised as a police-style baton.

· a quantity of PE4 explosive of the kind used by the British army. Tovey had enough to destroy a small building.

· a homemade explosive containing sodium, chlorate and sugar, which can have a similar effect to napalm. The sugar makes the material stick to skin

· components for pipe bombs and some already assembled pipe bombs, which had been carved with lines in order to create shrapnel

· a CS gas gun and CS gas spray

· body armour of the kind used by Nato forces and camouflage clothing

· books such as The Death Dealer's Manual, The Poisoner's Handbook, The Black Book of Arson and The Black Book of Boobytraps.

· videos from the US which have instructions on how to make nailbombs

 

[Boom-stick]

Mmmmm,

I hope my place never gets raided or I'm gonna like a complete nutter too.

 

[Fosbery]

For me it would be a Marlin 1894 in .375 magnum or .44 magnum (depending on how resilliant these zombies are) and my Remington M1100 practical shotgun (9 round magazine) in 12 bore. I'd also pick up a Taurus long-barreled-revolver in .375 magnum or .44 magnum, saw down the barrel and add a scope mount and reflex sight. I'd also try and get hold of a pre-1919 Colt 1911 in .45 ACP. Ruger Old Army might come in handy too. Then I'd just try to scrounge what police and army weapons I could. Oh, and one other thing. I'd get myself one of those AR15s that have no magwell. They eject the cartridge but don't load another round so are legal. Then I'd get a straight-pull AR15 with the magwell...and just combine the upper reciever from the former, and the lower reciever from the latter!

Apart from firearms, my Boker Applegate Smatchet would be on me at all times and I suppose a Royal Navy officer's sword might be a good idea too, or maybe a hammer for some blunt impact head-squishing. Applegate Fairbairn in my boot too. I'd wear body armour and helmet, ice hockey gear on my arms and legs, Magnum boots, probably some US army webbing and my carrtidge belt.

Oh and could I also make a polite request for people to stop slamming the SA80/L85. I've used that rifle for half my life and it's superb. All the rubbish about it being unreliable was pretty much concocted by the media. The original A1 version had some flaws, 'tis true, but no worse (in fact, a lot better) than the original M16. The A2 version is just fantastic.

 

[Michael Zeleny]

Cromlech wrote

Volkolak wrote Nah, I prefer European swords. A lot of people have misconceptions about Katanas and other Asian weaponry being "superior" to their European counterparts.

You are so right, my friend. There seems to be this misconception in peoples minds that a katana is some sort of magical lightsaber.
In reality it is a good slashing weapon, meant for unarmoured targets (Samurai killing peasants) or against light armour (Bamboo and wood?) on other Samurai.
Against heavier European armour, I would want European weaponry.

In other words, big swords, big axes and maybe a nice flanged mace.
European weaponry is so much cooler than Asian.

How many UK zombies wear heavier European armour?

 

[Cromlech]

Michael Zeleny wrote: How many UK zombies wear heavier European armour?

Not many in the cities, but some crazy zombies that were in the Castle (There is a 500+ year old castle in my town) would have access to some armour.

Don't let those zombies fool you into thinking they are mindless, they knows stuff I tells ya!

 

[Uridium]

For me in world A it would be a Browning hi-power and a Spas-15. Rock and Roll time

In todays world it would be a GSG-5 .22 semi auto carbine. I'd of upgraded the internals for reliability (.22s aren't that effective at cycling normally)

And a Saiga-12 combat shotgun with a ten round/shell magazine(both weapons on a Section 1).
(The Spas-15 is very difficult to get hold of in the UK as there were hardly any imported for the civilian market.)