Suspect in officer slayings bought rifle Christmas Eve

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The man accused of killing two Athens police officers was able to purchase a rifle on Christmas Eve despite a history of mental problems, authorities said.

Nine days later, Farron Barksdale, 29, used the SKS rifle to kill officer Tony Mims, 40, and Sgt. Larry Russell, 42, when they responded to his 911 call, according to Athens police.

Barksdale, charged with six counts of capital murder, has been involuntarily committed to mental health institutions at least twice, Sheriff Mike Blakely told The Decatur Daily in a story Wednesday.

To buy the gun, Barksdale had to fill out a federal questionnaire, including this question: "Have you ever been adjudicated mentally defective ... or have you ever been committed to a mental institution?"

"Of course you can lie about that if you want to. The dealer has no way of knowing if you're lying or not," said James L. Moses, president of the Alabama State Pistol and Rifle Association, an affiliate of the National Rifle Association.

The Decatur Daily reported that Barksdade bought the gun at Larry's Pistol and Pawn in Huntsville. Store owner Larry Barnett declined to confirm or deny that Barksdale made such a purchase.

FBI special agent Kimberly Freeman of Birmingham said background checks required to purchase a gun cannot legally include the customer's mental history "without a court order, a warrant, or some kind of subpoena."

"Basically, you can get a gun without that showing up anywhere in the check," she said.

The federal form also asks the prospective purchaser whether he is "an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana, or any depressant, stimulant, or narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance."

Blakely said Barksdale has since admitted to having used drugs and going on an alcohol binge before firing the weapon.

Mims was struck seven times before he exited his vehicle, according to Limestone County District Attorney Kristi Valls. Two bullets hit Russell as he got out of his vehicle.

Nationwide, suspects used the SKS to kill eight police officers between 1998 and 2001, according to the nonprofit Violence Policy Center, based in Washington, D.C.

Valls said she will present the case to the next grand jury, which convenes in March.

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Nationwide, suspects used the SKS to kill eight police officers between 1998 and 2001, according to the nonprofit Violence Policy Center, based in Washington, D.C.
Why do they get away with using a biased, political organization as a source of "facts"?

This is like using Stormfront as a source of facts on black criminals :rolleyes:

I can guarantee you they wouldn't ask the NRA how many SKS rifles have been used to kill police officers.
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background checks required to purchase a gun cannot legally include the customer's mental history "without a court order, a warrant, or some kind of subpoena."

What does this mean ? If the customer lies about their mental history on the 4473, NICS can't deny the purchase for this reason without a court order ? Should this information have been on record for the NICS operator to use ? Poor communication between agencies ? I'm stumped :confused:
Anyone can lie about their past transgressions, NICS was developed to prevent this. The type or mfg. of the rifle used is irrelevant. SKS, BMG, SAW,
Whatever.
 
Nationwide, suspects used the SKS to kill eight police officers between 1998 and 2001

OK...let me count here...(looking at fingers)...1998-99-2000-2001...4 years. That's 2 a year. That's not really a lot.

Oh, and let's take a look at the SKS...pistol grip for easy 'spray firing?' Nope. Detachable magazine holding more than 10 rounds? Nope. Flash suppressor? Nope. Collapsable/folding stock? Nope.

Not an evil black rifle. Just an simple old semi-auto hunting rifle.

And the Brady Law didn't stop it. Why? Because he lied. Hmmm, wonder how many criminals have figured that little trick out?
 
Just goes to show you... The Brady Bill is only for one thing and one thing only... Not for your or my safety, but so every law abiding citizen who legally purchases a firearm is now on federal record of doing so... Registration only leads to confiscation. That my friends is the end goal... No matter what warm-fuzzy BS they sell about your safety, that's not really their intent at all... All one needs to do is examine history, specifically Russia. Lenin started gun registration, Stalin then confiscated them followed by mass genocide.

You have to ask yourself, since the people that voted for this Brady Bill obviously know it won't stop crime, then there has to be another agenda. And that agenda is crystal clear to anyone who has a little common sense.

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Nationwide, suspects used the SKS to kill eight police officers between 1998 and 2001, according to the nonprofit Violence Policy Center, based in Washington, D.C.

Umm...

Just out of curiosity, I wonder how many police officers during that same time frame were killed with .38 special revolvers?


But the SKS is an 'evil' rifle with a bayonet, so those 8 cops are deader than if they had been shot with a .38 Special. :rolleyes:
 
I feel this falls squarely at the feet of our mental health system. You would not believe how much important info is squelched because it falls under personal medical records. I went thru months of dealings with a violent bipolar tenant. Virtually none of his records are publicly available, including his violent history, restraining orders, police incidents and firearm prohibition. He claims (now) a history of unlawful detainers which don't seem to show up on background checks either. These guys are given way too much slack. Half way house/sober living facility police records are also protected and not available to the neighborhood. In court the crying towel comes out and you here about how they don't like their meds and they are a victim of their disease. In Kali they can qualify for half way house and treatment time in lieu of jail time and out they come again.
 
Just out of curiosity, I wonder how many police officers during that same time frame were killed with .38 special revolvers?
How many LEOs were killed with their own weapon? I think it runs about 35-40% of all LEO homicides.
 
Just out of curiosity, I wonder how many police officers during that same time frame were killed with .38 special revolvers?

Or .22's?

"We will move to ban .22 caliber firearms because they have no sporting purpose."

Perhaps .38 revolvers?

"Ban and forbid the Saturday Night Specials in .38 caliber. They are junk guns made to kill people."

How about 12 gauge shotguns?

"These guns are so destructive, we must get them off the streets."

Perhaps hi-cap handguns?

"Beware the assault pistols!!!"

Don't mention rifles...

"Rifles with high powered scopes are not sporting. They are sniper's weapons."

People will use any excuse to attack guns, instead of attacking crime.
 
How many police end up killing innocent people? More than 2 a year? Time to eliminate police! ... for our safety!
 
(AL) Crazy man uses SKS to kill two police officers

Gun bought Christmas Eve
Police say killer's rifle came from Huntsville

By Eric Fleischauer and Holly Hollman
DAILY Staff Writers
[email protected] · 340-2435

On the night before Christmas, Farron Barksdale was browsing at Larry's Pistol and Pawn in Huntsville.

He left not with a sleigh full of toys, but with a deadly assault rifle. He used the rifle nine days later, according to Athens police Capt. Marty Bruce, to kill two police officers and to sadden an entire community.

Barksdale, who turned 29 today, went home with an SKS assault rifle — the same rifle that police say he used Friday to gun down officer Tony Mims, 40, and Sgt. Larry Russell, 42. Barksdale hired Decatur lawyer John Edmond Mays to defend him against six counts of capital murder.

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http://www.decaturdaily.com/decaturdaily/news/040106/gun.shtml


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I just sent the editor a letter about the two serious errors committed by his reporters.
 
The guy was locked up in a mental hospital before, was on alcohol and drugs when he committed the crime. Guesswho lied on the 4473?
 
What the article doesnt mention is that the perp first called the 9-1-1 dispatcher and asked for them to send an FBI agent. Dispatch told him that she couldnt send the FBI, he'd have to get in contact with the FBI personally. Then the officers were sent. He capped the one, the other showed up as backup, and he shot that one too. First one didnt even manage to get out of the car.

Another thing that the article left out was what the guy was charged with. I saw the charges, and one of them was "Killing more than one person at a time". Yeah, its good for a laugh at first, but then ya stop and think about it, and theres just something inherently wrong with that. Its wrong to kill someone else (except in limited circumstances), but its MORE wrong to kill two other people during the same incident? Huh? We need a law prohibiting that?
 
This event will be used by gun-grabbers, to push at least two agendas:

*Creation of govt. database of firearms-disqualified people, based on mental or medical history.

*Adding specific firearms (i.e., SKS) to the banned list.

Has anyone ever studied psychologist Jean Piaget? (One of time magazine's top 20 scientists of the 20th century) Brief example here.

I'm no expert, but it's incredibly striking, how much of the anti-gun rhetoric operates at what Piaget would call the childhood level of thought...

Pertaining to this case, one can see over-generalization (a misuse of inductive reasoning to yield false conclusions); transductive logic (using events closely related in time to draw conclusions); and animism (giving inanimate objects i.e., SKS rifle, an evil life).

It is equally striking how these cognitive models, while dysfunctional, are quite effectively used by the anti-gun crowd. A popular connection. But then again, one of Piaget's theses was that a good portion of the population never advances beyond adolescence, in terms of cognitive develpment.

Who said: "No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the american public"? In plain terms, the anti-gun message is deliberately dumbed-down, by some not-so-dumb advocates.
 
Bozo was a guest of the mental health system. Strike 1.

Bozo was on drugs. Strike 2.

Bozo lied on his 4473. Strike 3.

Bozo kills two cops. Strike 4.

Bozo needs to be euthanized.
 
Guess this is why my field training officer taught me to park a few houses down from the house we were dispatched to. At least I would have the chance to get out of my squad before the crazy opens fire on me! :rolleyes:
 
SKS assault rifle?
Last time I looked at my SKS only assault weapon feature it hasas defined in the AWB is the bayonet. No threaded muzzle, no folding stock, no detachable magazine etc.
Maybe this guy had one of them 'bubba-ized' SKS wannabe AK conversion looking things.
 
It took TWO people to write that article?! Wow. We have a pair of winners here. Someone get that Pulitzer ready.

Mr. Eric Fleischauer and Ms. Holly Hollman are clearly forgetting one of the major ethical considerations of journalism. Do not become part of the story.

On the night before Christmas, Farron Barksdale was browsing at Larry's Pistol and Pawn in Huntsville.

These sarcastic and unnecessarily playful opening lines of an article that centers on the tragic death of two police officers point to the fact that these so called "journalists" are more interested in seeing their own writing in print than in relating a news story from an unbiased point of view. Next time they decide to squeeze their political agenda into one of their articles perhaps it would lend them more credibility if they appeared more sensitive to the subject matter.

If there is one thing that ticks me off more than people who use words like "deadly" and "assault rifle" for the sake of adding drama in place of actually researching their facts, it's bad writing!!
 
Twenty rounds of 7.62 mm vest-piercing ammunition, more than Barksdale needed to allegedly kill the two officers, costs $3.99.

It says "vest-piercing" right on the box! :rolleyes:

Um, what rifle round won't pierce a vest?
 
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