T/C Renegade Rifle

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Ironhand I have owned three 54 Renegades in the past but never took them hunting. I did kill an Elk with a 54 caliber Cabelas Hawken. I used a Lee 405gr Improved Minnie and was very impressed by the damage that bullet did to heart and lung area of that animal.
 
I also have a Renegade in .54 and a Hawken in .50 that I picked up from the same person a few years ago at a good price . I only wanted the Hawken , but he brought the Renegade with him and they were both in such good condition , I bought both of them . Neither one looks like it has been shot . I tried selling the Renegade local the last 2 huntings seasons for $300 dollars , but there is no interest in it here . I am getting ready to build a house on some land that I bought last year , once I get out there I will probably baptize both of them with some blackpowder .
 
$80 is a fantastic price. I thought I did well getting mine for $191 plus shipping. They can normally be found on GB for $250 or less if you look. They aren't pretty like the Hawken style rifles but I like the ultilitarian look anyway. I think "Spartan" is the correct word. Just a simple no frills gun. They are a little heavier because of the 1" barrel. That was why I really wanted the 54 because they are a little lighter in weight. No matter. The ammo is lighter and that makes up the difference.:thumbup:

Some will say this and the various "Hawken" rifles are not true Hawken copies and they are correct. They are not really even close and that includes the Lyman GP rifle. Sort of a Hawken but not really. I like how this guy explains this style of rifle starting at the one minute mark. He states they are closer to the rifles used after the Mountain Man era and more if what was carried west or on the Santa fe trail. I like that idea.

 
A real Hawken didn't have brass on it and had two under lugs for the barrel. The trigger guard, made of steel, had a different look. Just a couple of things that come to mind. Yes it was a good price. It was loaded and I had to pull the breech plug. When the guy who ran the show found out the second day he had a fit that a loaded gun got in the show. The GD shot the deer in the woods behind my house. It was a off hand 80yd shot. I was quite proud of her. The year before she got a deer along side the house [ in the woods ] with my Brian Ferguson long bow with a cedar arrow we made together. She thinks the bow is hers, but not till I die. Her ex stepfather use to get mad when she wouldn't use the compound bow or inline muzzleloader he'd buy her. That girl is turning out ok. Now if I could just train the wife - hell, I've had 51 years and still no luck. Any help there ?
 
I have one in .54 and its a great gun. I have always liked the old school T/C front stuffers, sadly they are no longer in production. I know they cause purists heartburn but I always liked their approach on muzzle loaders kind of like Ruger did with Single Actions.
 
I could just train the wife - hell, I've had 51 years and still no luck. Any help there ?
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If you ever figure out how its done please let the rest of us knows. Wives are like cats. They are to be admired and petted but don't think they can be dominated or bluffed. They will scratch you everytime.
 
Looks like a nice rifle. I've been tempted by those TC's as there are a bunch on there.
 
I've had one in .54 since 1980 or so and taken a few elk with it using Lyman 407gr Maxiballs. It has never been a tackdriver but it sure brings home the meat.
At 8.5 lbs, it's kind of a beast to carry around in the woods so it's been relegated to the backup to my 7 lb Hopkins and Allen Underhammer in .50 cal. that seems to kill elk just as dead.
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Good looking rifle Doug. I may strip the one I have coming and do an oil finish on the stock and brown all the metal. Mine was a kit gun so the sanding has all been done. It just needs a little TLC to make it MY gun.
 
Ratshooter said:
Good looking rifle Doug. I may strip the one I have coming and do an oil finish on the stock and brown all the metal. Mine was a kit gun so the sanding has all been done. It just needs a little TLC to make it MY gun.
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I had to modify the stock when I put the Lyman #57 peep sight on the gun so I stripped the finish and Tru-oiled it which brought out the flame that previously was hidden.
I'm sure you'll be happy with an oil finish.
 
Nice! I Have had one for almost 40 years in .50 Always was accurate and fun. I ran across a like new/new one on consignment for 180 several years beck so I grabbed it as a Spare... grabbed yet another for the 80.00 price that was a bit rough... it cleaned up ok and I plan on makin it a "shorty" one day all mine are 50's ... short of bigfoot they should take anything in the area...
 
The rifle came today. It looks much better in person than the pictures on the auction sight. Cameras seem to highlight every flaw in a finish. If the gun has been fired I can't tell it. If it has been fired it was cleaned very thoroughly. There are no blast marks around the nipple area. The barrel looks 100% factory fresh when viewed with a bore light. The weight is 8.25 pounds.

I will probably strip and refinish the wood and brown the metal. But there is no hurry to do so. I will shoot it first. I don't like the shiny finish but it is thick and should be water proof. Even the barrel channel is well sealed. So far I am very pleased with the gun. Now if I could just find one of those sling studs that screw into the ramrod thimble so I can add a sling.
 
While you are refinishing the stock you could thin it some in the forend and wrist. Should lighten it up a bit and make it handle better You could even checker it a bit .

IronHand
 
My skill sets do not include checkering. And I really don't like checkering on old guns or lever actions. But the wood does need thinning on top of the wrist and on the bottom around the trigger guard. Thats easy to do. Also the lock panels need defining.
 
A 50 cal. Renegade was one of my first BP rifles many years ago. Over time I've added GM drop in barrels in 50 (round ball twist), 54 and 32 (darn heavy but accurate). Had the original barrel reamed out to a 62 smooth bore. Picked up another stock as back up or in case I want to shoot a rifle in each hand. :D They aren't the prettiest or most authentic Hawken style but they are reliable and a good value. I seem to be one of the few people who like the trigger guard.

Jeff
 
I don't understand the complaints on the trigger guard myself. I mean it does what a trigger guard is supposed to do. So whats the beef?
 
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