TokyoShapiro
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Anyone like the new 5.11 tactical knives?
tactical knife back up to your gun
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browningguy
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What exactly does a "tactical 5.11" knife do that my folding Swiss Army won't do?
Mine even has a toothpick!
Mine even has a toothpick!
Zundfolge
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Fighting effectively with a knife requires years of training ... my "tactical" knife is used for opening boxes, cleaning under fingernails and cutting string.
If I fell I need a backup for my sidearm, I'll just pack a second gun
As for the 5.11 knives, they look decent ... a little pricey (I suspect you're paying extra for the 5.11 on the blade).
My CRKT is probably just as good a knife at 1/3 the price.
If I fell I need a backup for my sidearm, I'll just pack a second gun
As for the 5.11 knives, they look decent ... a little pricey (I suspect you're paying extra for the 5.11 on the blade).
My CRKT is probably just as good a knife at 1/3 the price.
Look like relabeled Benchmades.
MarshallDodge
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The styling is nice but are definitely not a Benchmade.
I'm with Zundfolge, for an imported knife I agree that they are pricey although maybe they are just showing MSRP on the website. CRKT is imported and are a much better value.
For the $90-120 price range you can get a Benchmade that is made here in the USA.
I'm with Zundfolge, for an imported knife I agree that they are pricey although maybe they are just showing MSRP on the website. CRKT is imported and are a much better value.
For the $90-120 price range you can get a Benchmade that is made here in the USA.
mgregg85
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I sometimes carry safe maker I as a "back up".
mercop
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Why would you want a folding Kerambit you have to open with two hands?
Yes a pistol should be backed up with a blade, but I think you can do much better than a 5.11.
Yes a pistol should be backed up with a blade, but I think you can do much better than a 5.11.
Jayb
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I back up my handgun with my tactical ball bat, that I have to use my tactical flashlight to find, cause it's in the back of my tactical truck. I use tactical bullets, and if I run out, I can use the tactical rocks in my driveway. The driveway is usually safe, 'cause my tactical dog keeps things under control out there.
sorry :banghead:
sorry :banghead:
DAVIDSDIVAD
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Hahaha, JayB, you gave me a good laugh, man.
I get tired of that word being thrown around all the time too, so I can relate.
I get tired of that word being thrown around all the time too, so I can relate.
Jayb
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I'm glad I didn't pi$$ anyone off with that, because I certainly didn't mean to. But geeze, it seems like regardless of the item being discussed, it simply must be tactical if it's to be quality stuff.
for_hire
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i love spydercos and benchmades...
cant go wrong with either one..
but if you want a tacticool knife...go for a microtech halo, or something that cost you your tactical a##!
cant go wrong with either one..
but if you want a tacticool knife...go for a microtech halo, or something that cost you your tactical a##!
mercop
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for hire, why a mircotech halo?
wheelgunslinger
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I use a 10.99 half-serrated stainless folder I got at a parts store. Yes, a crappy cheap knife.
It stays clipped to my pocket and when I need to cut something it does fine.
I see value in more expensive knives, but can't bring myself to drop the coin on them.
It stays clipped to my pocket and when I need to cut something it does fine.
I see value in more expensive knives, but can't bring myself to drop the coin on them.
JTW Jr.
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For those than can't carry a fixed and like the K-bit , I think it is a well made knife. Lock up was far superior to " other " folding K-bits I have tried. Though I wish I bought a Cutter Knife and Tool K-bit years ago.
The 5.11's K-bit is the same as the Tarani Master model by Blade Tech.
However a K-bit takes quite a bit of training to use as a defense blade , mine is strictly to open cans of Copenhagen , desheath Cat5 , Cat6 and Coax as well as other mundane chores.
I dont carry a blade as a backup to my 1911 though , I carry a 2nd 1911
mercop
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If you really want something to be tactical paint it black, add velcro and a fastex buckle.
Roswell 1847
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Long ago I read an article written by a police officer in which he described finding a suicide hanging by the neck.
He tried to hold the guy up to take the weight off his neck, but had no knife handy. He had his regular belt with handgun and ammo but hadn't ever thought about carrying a knife much less a knife that was easy to reach and open with one hand.
The suicide turned out to have been past helping anyway but the officer determined that should any such event happen in the future he would be better prepared.
Knives can be life savers without being used as weapons.
He tried to hold the guy up to take the weight off his neck, but had no knife handy. He had his regular belt with handgun and ammo but hadn't ever thought about carrying a knife much less a knife that was easy to reach and open with one hand.
The suicide turned out to have been past helping anyway but the officer determined that should any such event happen in the future he would be better prepared.
Knives can be life savers without being used as weapons.
JTW Jr.
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well said... the blades I carry are for utility use.
.44walkersabot
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You have that a little backwards don't you pard'ner?
I would think that when he haul's out his 9mm or his .38 Special, you would need a backup for your tactical knife, not the other way around...Okay...
I would think that when he haul's out his 9mm or his .38 Special, you would need a backup for your tactical knife, not the other way around...Okay...
Fosbery
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I think you mean Emersons
JTW Jr.
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while I liked the Emerson , the Bladetech , now 5.11 feels much more solid.
Now if you take a Emerson and make it a frame lock or added a solid titanium backspacer to include the ring area...like this one I modded years ago...
Now if you take a Emerson and make it a frame lock or added a solid titanium backspacer to include the ring area...like this one I modded years ago...
Gordon
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ArfinGreebly
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Just To Be Contrary
You know, I carry at least three knives with me all the time. There are all manner of tactical boxes and stuff that I have to open. Tonight I had to open a tactical CD (Trans-Siberian Orchestra), and that required a spring-assisted folder than I keep handy for unexpected CD encounters.
I opened my mail with my little two-inch tactical Gerber Silver Knight.
And yesterday, I actually thought about opening something with my Leatherman Wave. Thinking about it is worth points, no?
A little more seriously . . .
Given the state of my strong hand, and the arthritis that's beginning to mess with my grip, I do believe that if I actually believed I was going to encounter some kind of "tactical" situation that might require a knife, I'd want something with a fatter grip than what I carry.
In fact, I don't think I'd favor a folder much at all.
I think I'd look to one of my Finnish or Swedish knives, maybe in a three or four inch blade. Nothing fancy, but the grip would have to be something I could hang onto even under dire conditions.
Don't do me no good to have a wonder knife if I can't hang onto it.
I've had to re-evaluate the "tactical-ness" of my cutlery since my grip strength began to be a problem. I have a Gerber Guardian (original version) that I probably wouldn't be able to use with my hand as it is now, and that's sad, 'cuz it's a great knife.
I have a cheap old Mora "Clipper" knife (Frosts) that stays firm in my hand in both major grip positions. If I "had" to carry a tac knife backup for my CCW, it would be something like that.
Just my thoughts.
You know, I carry at least three knives with me all the time. There are all manner of tactical boxes and stuff that I have to open. Tonight I had to open a tactical CD (Trans-Siberian Orchestra), and that required a spring-assisted folder than I keep handy for unexpected CD encounters.
I opened my mail with my little two-inch tactical Gerber Silver Knight.
And yesterday, I actually thought about opening something with my Leatherman Wave. Thinking about it is worth points, no?
A little more seriously . . .
Given the state of my strong hand, and the arthritis that's beginning to mess with my grip, I do believe that if I actually believed I was going to encounter some kind of "tactical" situation that might require a knife, I'd want something with a fatter grip than what I carry.
In fact, I don't think I'd favor a folder much at all.
I think I'd look to one of my Finnish or Swedish knives, maybe in a three or four inch blade. Nothing fancy, but the grip would have to be something I could hang onto even under dire conditions.
Don't do me no good to have a wonder knife if I can't hang onto it.
I've had to re-evaluate the "tactical-ness" of my cutlery since my grip strength began to be a problem. I have a Gerber Guardian (original version) that I probably wouldn't be able to use with my hand as it is now, and that's sad, 'cuz it's a great knife.
I have a cheap old Mora "Clipper" knife (Frosts) that stays firm in my hand in both major grip positions. If I "had" to carry a tac knife backup for my CCW, it would be something like that.
Just my thoughts.
Roswell 1847
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Heres my Tactical Vampire stabbing wooden knife,with an ancient African god for the handle.
http://hillbilly.diinoweb.com/files/wooden knife.jpg
Makes a dandy letter opener too but it should put the undead in their place should the need arise.
Don't know what kind of wood it is but it came from Kenya and is as dense and hard as Lignum Vitae.
http://hillbilly.diinoweb.com/files/wooden knife.jpg
Makes a dandy letter opener too but it should put the undead in their place should the need arise.
Don't know what kind of wood it is but it came from Kenya and is as dense and hard as Lignum Vitae.
I like anti-tacticals myself. Got one of these last night before I assembled some of the kids' toys.
Buck 419, the Kalinga Pro Folder.
I also respectfully disagree with Zundfolge about it "taking years" to master knife fighting. "Knife fighting" is a choreographical joke usually displayed on a non resisting volunteer in a slow motion fashion to part students from their money.
Back when I gave a damn about form over results, I used to spar with FMA and silat practitioners in "duels" with dry erase markers. Usually both parties were deemed to be gravely wounded, and no amount of theory or practice prevented the typical blood bath of ink, usually incurred in a fight gone to the ground. One could readily find novices who'd tag long time practitioners "lethally." I was left with the definite impression that training to knife fight is a waste of time and money.
One could master the basics of the "Folsom Rush" in the time it takes to read this post. Next to no one on the street is going to be a knife fighting "expert," and this time of year in my neck of the woods, a Karambit is next to useless against the parkas and leather coats almost everyone wears.
Seems to me that the major obstacle to being effective with a knife is summoning up the will to repeatedly stab someone in a timely manner.
Experienced knife wielders are extremely dangerous folks. That condition doesn't correlate well with being formally trained to "knife fight."
Buck 419, the Kalinga Pro Folder.
I also respectfully disagree with Zundfolge about it "taking years" to master knife fighting. "Knife fighting" is a choreographical joke usually displayed on a non resisting volunteer in a slow motion fashion to part students from their money.
Back when I gave a damn about form over results, I used to spar with FMA and silat practitioners in "duels" with dry erase markers. Usually both parties were deemed to be gravely wounded, and no amount of theory or practice prevented the typical blood bath of ink, usually incurred in a fight gone to the ground. One could readily find novices who'd tag long time practitioners "lethally." I was left with the definite impression that training to knife fight is a waste of time and money.
One could master the basics of the "Folsom Rush" in the time it takes to read this post. Next to no one on the street is going to be a knife fighting "expert," and this time of year in my neck of the woods, a Karambit is next to useless against the parkas and leather coats almost everyone wears.
Seems to me that the major obstacle to being effective with a knife is summoning up the will to repeatedly stab someone in a timely manner.
Experienced knife wielders are extremely dangerous folks. That condition doesn't correlate well with being formally trained to "knife fight."
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