Talk me into/out of a Colt Delta Elite or a Glock 20

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The only good purpose for a 10mm is if you need it for a close range hunting auto, which really makes no sense when you can buy a good 357 or 44 mag revolver for much less money and has more power than the 10mm.

10mm in either the colt or glock is really hard to control and shoot as a defense cartridge or for target shooting, this is the main reason it never really, took off and is only produced for a few guns today.

40sw or 9mm is the cheapest and best to shoot out of either the glock or the 1911, 45acp is also an excellent choice and still a lot easier to shoot and cheaper to buy then 10mm.

10mm is also a weird load that you really can't shoot a target or mild load out of most of the autos as they fail to cycle, you really have to play around with different recoil spring weights to get them to cycle properly , with anything but max or hi power loads.

The 10mm is a very accurate round though, but its recoil is hard to control, scarse and very expensive to shoot to sum it up
 
You are definitly a 10mm lover, I owned 2 deltas and one gold cup for about 10 yrs. and set one of the deltas up with a match barrel and comp and action job , it was the most accurate center fire I ever shot, it would do 1" 5 shot rested groups at 25 yrds.

I found the SW 10mm or 1006 poorly made when compared to the colts, bought a new 4506 with adjustable sights and it wasn't anywhere as acurate as the colts.

Problem was I extensivley handloaded for bullseye and target shooting and the 10mm was very finicky, in the 1911 platform even with all the bullet . brass and powder choices available in the early 90's for it.

I eventually went back to the 45acp and 38 special for target use.

The 38 super is actually a better round in the 1911 platform than the 10mm was.
 
180g 1400 FPS XTP's from Swamp Fox

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My G29 has an 4.48 inch Storm Lake Barrel which Swamp Fox says is required. I have a Smith 1076, 1006 and a 1006. no issues. these are not reloads.
 
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The 10mm fills a niche for me. I love my 41mag revolvers and since the Desert Eagle in .41mag is all but impossible to find, I was looking for something somewhat similar. I have a blued Delta Elite, a Delta Gold Cup....and though I have never really liked them I came across a gently used G20 with night sights. My favorite...the Gold Cup by far.

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Get a 3rd gen G20 SF. I used to own one, liked it a lot, but ammo got too expensive. If you can afford the ammo to practice with it consistently, it would be a great super powerful pistol.
 
I run from almost .40 loads up to nuclear stuff in 10mm on a 20lb wolff spring with zero issues.
 
I got a G20 about a month ago. Currently my favorite gun. Very accurate. I do better with a big grip and a powerful round. Reloading for it is great fun. And it's cool to have the loundest gun at the range (sometimes). I will carry it eventually, in the back-country, and maybe even around town.

If you like to tinker with machines and fix stuff the Colt could also be a good option. Much smaller magazine capacity. Pretty as heck. Heavy as heck, too.
 
Hey "KNOW IT ALL"

If you think 10mm is such a great round , than why do you think the FBI gave up on it and S&W created the 40 SW.

Also why hasn't the 10mm caught on if its so great since its over 22 yr old introduction. Most manufacturers that used to produce it ceased production a long time ago.

The only pistol manufactures you see for them is glock, ( 1911 manufacturers Kimber, colt, fusion etc. all doing the same 1911 band wagon marketing plan), no other innovative pistols but except glock is chambered for them.
 
Their are plenty of 10mm ammo suppliers and enough 10mm gun suppliers too. It isn't for everyone though! It takes a decent piece to handle it and I think that is the issue long ago. What would you deem the downside to it versus the others?
 
I've owned three 10's, Colt Delta, S&W 1006, & Kimber Eclipse. The S&W will shoot any 10MM load I ever fed it, the Kimber has handled any jacketed bullet, it doesn't like SWC's. Sold the Colt, glad to get rid of it! Have shot a Glock 10MM, not for me. Still have the Kimber & S&W. If I had to only keep one, it would be the 1006. My opinion only.
Edit to add: The 10MM suffers from downloaded factory ammo now, it's simply no more than a hot 40 S&W now. To get the original ballistics, you need to handload, or buy the very expensive "boutique" ammo. The original Norma load was essentially the same as a 41 Mag, most current factory loads are little more than a 357 Mag.
 
The only good purpose for a 10mm is if you need it for a close range hunting auto, which really makes no sense when you can buy a good 357 or 44 mag revolver for much less money and has more power than the 10mm.
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The .357 isn't going to be more powerful than a 10mm. And your complaint about 10mm recoil makes little sense if your solution is to buy a bloody .44 Magnum. A good 10mm autoloader will certainly cost more, but autoloaders cost more in general and it's not like Glocks are $3,000 boutique items.

This seems to be one of those things where people who decide differently from you simply must be deluded morons. 10mm is a niche caliber, but if that nice suits you it is a fine cartridge.
 
I paid $509 for my 10mm Witness Elite Match. I paid $550 for my .357 Magnum Ruger GP100. Kind of a wash really.

They should have named the 10mm a .40 Magnum instead. That would have been the most fitting!
 
10mm in either the colt or glock is really hard to control and shoot as a defense cartridge or for target shooting, this is the main reason it never really, took off and is only produced for a few guns today.

40sw or 9mm is the cheapest and best to shoot out of either the glock or the 1911, 45acp is also an excellent choice and still a lot easier to shoot and cheaper to buy then 10mm.

10mm is also a weird load that you really can't shoot a target or mild load out of most of the autos as they fail to cycle, you really have to play around with different recoil spring weights to get them to cycle properly , with anything but max or hi power loads.

The 10mm is a very accurate round though, but its recoil is hard to control, scarse and very expensive to shoot to sum it up


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Durn, I wish I had known that years back. Been packing a 10mm in pure ignorance for over 30 years.:(
 
"hard to control" is a subjective term. my split times increase about .08-.1 seconds between .45acp 230 gr ball at 930fps and my favorite 10mm load a 135gr jhp at 1650 fps both from a 2011 platform. expensive, yes, but very accurate, very hard hitting, and for me at least, controlable
 
They should have named the 10mm a .40 Magnum instead. That would have been the most fitting!
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Actually, that's exactly how I refer to it. :D

IIRC the 10mm came first (?) so maybe we should call the .40 S&W a "10mm Kurtz.":cool:
 
"If you think 10mm is such a great round , than why do you think the FBI gave up on it and S&W created the 40 SW."

Because FBI agents are sissy pencil pushers who asked for a lighter load and eventually SW figured out they could out-market Norma.

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I'd shoot both and see which one you like. If you don't like them, there's always the EAA witness. Or you could try to find a STAR.
 
FBI agents with smaller hands could not handle the 1076's size, that's why.

You had better do some research on who builds 10mm platforms and the popularity of it, especially with hand loaders.

The 1911 "bandwagon plan" as you call it, is actually a business plan for several firearms companies. What is your narrow-minded definition of an innovative pistol? Have you shot an STI Perfect 10, or Fusion Scout XL in 10mm?





If you think 10mm is such a great round , than why do you think the FBI gave up on it and S&W created the 40 SW.

Also why hasn't the 10mm caught on if its so great since its over 22 yr old introduction. Most manufacturers that used to produce it ceased production a long time ago.

The only pistol manufactures you see for them is glock, ( 1911 manufacturers Kimber, colt, fusion etc. all doing the same 1911 band wagon marketing plan), no other innovative pistols but except glock is chambered for them.
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So your saying Colt and SW stopped making 10mm because shooters hands were to small.

Get real, the true reason they stopped selling them is because very low demand and sales.

Colt only reintroduced their 10mm delta, to put a little more in their catalog.

Sales of any of the custom 10mm is very low, 45acp and 9mm out sell all the other 1911 platforms.
 
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