megatronrules
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Good god friends and neighbors! I was talking to someone last night who in all other respects is a very smart person. The she went on to say she voted for Fienstien,and supported gun control. So I figure "Let me listen to her view". If for no other reason but to be polite. She said she hates guns, and they should ban them, so every redneck cant shoot his wife, and some kid cant find it and shoot his friend.
I then told her that those kinds of things while tragic are not the norm. She then cited the statisic that a gun in the home is 40 blah blaa times more likely to kill or injure a family member. I told her that is a skewed statistic. I also said if thats the case I have some great luck, cause with all my guns I and my family have cheated death 400+ times a day for years! So where is my winning lottery ticket? She wasnt hearing me guys.
She then said. "Look at our crime rate". I said "Well there are less than 1% of guns used in crime yearly, and if the kept criminals locked up where they belong, there would be very little crime,as most of it is criminal on criminal anyway. She wasnt hearing me guys.
She pointed to Canada and the UK. I informed here I have 2 very good friends in the UK. There are many, many shootings there that you dont hear about over here. She wouldnt listen to that either.
I pointed to Isreal and the Swiss. The Swiss dont kill each other in droves. Nope, she wouldnt listen.
By now my stomach was in a knot, but I maintained my composure and was polite.
Oh and the grand daddy of gun grabbing statements. " I think only the police and military and criminals should have guns"! She claims she wants gun control because of crime, yet says let the police and criminals have thier guns. Where is the logic in this?
I gave her my anaogy of it, Lets say you got a piece of paper in the mail. It says you have 90 days to turn in your drivers lisence, since 40,000 people a year are killed by drunk drivers. Now you think " i didnt drive drunk,i KNOW that i wouldnt drive drunk. Why are they punishing me? The letter says that its in everyones interest of you take public transpotation from now on. Out of 200 million lisenced drivers, they are looking at the 40,000 who broke the law.Im no mathmatician but that is a pretty low percentage.
I said that gun owners are in the same boat. We have hundreds of millions of guns, yet there were 24 THOUSAND used in crimelast year. Just for example here.By my math that is 6/10's of 1 PERCENT! That means that there are 99.4 % of guns never used for a crime.
SHE WASNT HEARING ME GUYS....SAID MY ANAOLGY WAS NOT CORRECT. I thought it was damn good for something I thought up right there.
She praised Fienstien's efforts on trying for more gun control and "gun safety"! I sent her the pic of Fienstien with the AK47 that I think was used in the North Hollywood shootout. If its not that gun its the same damn setup. Anyway she has that gun with THE BOLT CLOSED.FINGER ON TRIGGER,MAG IN GUN.AND POINTED AT PEOPLE She just broke every rule of gun safety there is,
She want SAFETY ! :banghead:
I then said Fienstien last I heard had a permit to carry a handgun. She said well she is an important person. I said yes that may be, BUT is she any more important than me or you? Is her life worth more than mine? I have a family to go home to at the end of the day too. She wansnt sure about that one though.
With that i said," By the way, what do you think of me as a person"? She said " I like you, I think your a nice, smart, outgoing. kind person." I said "Well im certainly not a"redneck who would shoot my wife then"? She said "No not at all".
I then said " Well im a gun owner, and Im proud of it".
With that the convo was over.
Now looking back on it, im still sick over her attitude. How can a person who is otherwise intelligent buy into the skewed stats, and the basic concept that BANNING anything will ever rid society of it?
Well what are your thoughts? Did I handle this well? My first discusson with an Anti.
I then told her that those kinds of things while tragic are not the norm. She then cited the statisic that a gun in the home is 40 blah blaa times more likely to kill or injure a family member. I told her that is a skewed statistic. I also said if thats the case I have some great luck, cause with all my guns I and my family have cheated death 400+ times a day for years! So where is my winning lottery ticket? She wasnt hearing me guys.
She then said. "Look at our crime rate". I said "Well there are less than 1% of guns used in crime yearly, and if the kept criminals locked up where they belong, there would be very little crime,as most of it is criminal on criminal anyway. She wasnt hearing me guys.
She pointed to Canada and the UK. I informed here I have 2 very good friends in the UK. There are many, many shootings there that you dont hear about over here. She wouldnt listen to that either.
I pointed to Isreal and the Swiss. The Swiss dont kill each other in droves. Nope, she wouldnt listen.
By now my stomach was in a knot, but I maintained my composure and was polite.
Oh and the grand daddy of gun grabbing statements. " I think only the police and military and criminals should have guns"! She claims she wants gun control because of crime, yet says let the police and criminals have thier guns. Where is the logic in this?
I gave her my anaogy of it, Lets say you got a piece of paper in the mail. It says you have 90 days to turn in your drivers lisence, since 40,000 people a year are killed by drunk drivers. Now you think " i didnt drive drunk,i KNOW that i wouldnt drive drunk. Why are they punishing me? The letter says that its in everyones interest of you take public transpotation from now on. Out of 200 million lisenced drivers, they are looking at the 40,000 who broke the law.Im no mathmatician but that is a pretty low percentage.
I said that gun owners are in the same boat. We have hundreds of millions of guns, yet there were 24 THOUSAND used in crimelast year. Just for example here.By my math that is 6/10's of 1 PERCENT! That means that there are 99.4 % of guns never used for a crime.
SHE WASNT HEARING ME GUYS....SAID MY ANAOLGY WAS NOT CORRECT. I thought it was damn good for something I thought up right there.
She praised Fienstien's efforts on trying for more gun control and "gun safety"! I sent her the pic of Fienstien with the AK47 that I think was used in the North Hollywood shootout. If its not that gun its the same damn setup. Anyway she has that gun with THE BOLT CLOSED.FINGER ON TRIGGER,MAG IN GUN.AND POINTED AT PEOPLE She just broke every rule of gun safety there is,
She want SAFETY ! :banghead:
I then said Fienstien last I heard had a permit to carry a handgun. She said well she is an important person. I said yes that may be, BUT is she any more important than me or you? Is her life worth more than mine? I have a family to go home to at the end of the day too. She wansnt sure about that one though.
With that i said," By the way, what do you think of me as a person"? She said " I like you, I think your a nice, smart, outgoing. kind person." I said "Well im certainly not a"redneck who would shoot my wife then"? She said "No not at all".
I then said " Well im a gun owner, and Im proud of it".
With that the convo was over.
Now looking back on it, im still sick over her attitude. How can a person who is otherwise intelligent buy into the skewed stats, and the basic concept that BANNING anything will ever rid society of it?
Well what are your thoughts? Did I handle this well? My first discusson with an Anti.