Target shooters start Yosemite fires?
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Where does it say that the gunfire started the fire? It only says target shooters right? Could have been a campfire they had going, or a cigarette. Or they could have been idiots shooting propane tanks next to a lit flare.
Joe Demko
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The fire was actually started by wee invisible magical dragons. Prove me wrong.
Terrorists have been talking about this (setting forest fires in fire prone areas). I don't remember having them every year in the past, maybe they didn't report it as much, but it didn't seem like every year, they were fighting tens or hundreds of different blazes (70's and 80's).
In any event, it serves political ends to say it was "gun owners". Why are they not assuming terrorists? Especially since we know most of the fires were set artificially / deliberatly and terrorists have talked about doing this very thing.
I don't have proof other than conjecture, which is the basis of the allegation of target shooters starting the fire to begin with. Aren't guns banned in Yosemite?
Anyway, asking for "proof" is a crap reply. Like I am setting on all manner of proof, and the US government comes to my door regularly beging to use the proof in their cases, that is the reason for the patriot act and keeping the "evidence" classified, so as not to disclose anything about me... Yeah, I am cool like that.
Joe Demko
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But I'm certain the little perishers started the blaze, just the same.
Regarding the invisible dragons, it's well known that one can't prove a negative. You can't prove they didn't do it.
But there are any number of ways you can prove the existence of something invisible. Do they leave tiny footprints? Can you smell the little buggers? (Everyone knows dragons stink.)
I think elves can see them, so they might be eyewitnesses.
Anyway, just because some wannabe blowhard TALKS about starting fires is no basis for declaring unequivically that they DID start them.
The principal of Parsimony/ Occam's Razor says, "Lean towards the simple explanation." It's pointed out these fires dang near start themselves. No terrorists necessary, no evidence they did. That means the Conspiracy Theory should be number 3 or 4 on your list, not number 1.
Further, there may be strong evidence/ proof that target shooters did start the fire, although I agree it's pretty irresponsible to say so without further elaboration.
Remember those Japanese Balloon Bombs from 1944? Maybe one of them got delayed...
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IBTL, but to try to contribute something positive:
This should motivate us to be particularly careful and RESPONSIBLE in our use of firearms. That's part of the High Road. It may be a one in a million chance, but guns CAN start fires. (It's been documented more than once in combat.)
We need to educate the slob shooters out there as well; it may be a losing fight (watch a few YouTube shooting videos- yikes!) , but we gotta try. We can certainly try daily to maintain a high level of personal integrity and responsability.
To me, that's what the High Road means.
But there are any number of ways you can prove the existence of something invisible. Do they leave tiny footprints? Can you smell the little buggers? (Everyone knows dragons stink.)
I think elves can see them, so they might be eyewitnesses.
Anyway, just because some wannabe blowhard TALKS about starting fires is no basis for declaring unequivically that they DID start them.
The principal of Parsimony/ Occam's Razor says, "Lean towards the simple explanation." It's pointed out these fires dang near start themselves. No terrorists necessary, no evidence they did. That means the Conspiracy Theory should be number 3 or 4 on your list, not number 1.
Further, there may be strong evidence/ proof that target shooters did start the fire, although I agree it's pretty irresponsible to say so without further elaboration.
Remember those Japanese Balloon Bombs from 1944? Maybe one of them got delayed...
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IBTL, but to try to contribute something positive:
This should motivate us to be particularly careful and RESPONSIBLE in our use of firearms. That's part of the High Road. It may be a one in a million chance, but guns CAN start fires. (It's been documented more than once in combat.)
We need to educate the slob shooters out there as well; it may be a losing fight (watch a few YouTube shooting videos- yikes!) , but we gotta try. We can certainly try daily to maintain a high level of personal integrity and responsability.
To me, that's what the High Road means.
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"Anyway, asking for "proof" is a crap reply"
No,it is not.
No,it is not.
Joe Demko
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Didn't work for your terrorists, did it? The dragons are far craftier than terrorists. You'll have to do better than that...Unless you are giving such lame advice and trying to mislead us because you are on their side! What about it, America-hater? You some kind of closet dragon sympathizer?
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