Taurus 738 TCP Range report and MANY pictures!

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My tax returns were deposited this week so after putting a few grand towards some lingering debt, my wife and I decided to share the remaining $400 for purchases. I choose to get a Ruger LCP with my half, but when I showed up at my FFL he didn't have any LCP's. Instead had a nice stainless slide Taurus TCP for $5 less! I'd looked at this gun when I was trying to pick out a pocket gun and liked everything but the brand. Come to find out, Taurus is now making some of their guns completely in the USA, so I gave them a try. I walked out with the little .380, 2 mags, a nifty belt case, and 2 boxes of Prvi Partizan ammo (the guy at the shop said it was decent stuff made by Winchester in Europe).

I went to the range today to shoot the TCP for the first time. The tempature was around 25 degrees Farenheit with low wind. I shot 50 rounds at the 7 yard range. 1 magazine from a rest, and the rest free hand.

My expectations were of many misfires and misses as many have reported from these new .380 minis when they are new. To my dismay, the first shot resulted in a failure to feed! I was very bummed and as I began to rack the slide, I noticed a large amount of blood running down my thumb :eek:. Turns out when I tried to take my first shot from a rest, I placed my left thumb over my right thumb and it was severely cut by the slide. I obviously normally don't hold a pistol this way, but because it was so small I accidentally placed my thumb in a completely wrong spot. After correcting my grip, it was smooth sailing (except for a failure to feed when I limp wristed, but the shot surprised me and I blame myself).

I am used to shooting SA/DA pistols, so the trigger pull was very long for me, but it was quite smooth and perfectly light (I'd guess 5 lbs.) for my taste. I greatly prefer this trigger to the Ruger LCP or any DA revolver I have shot. With the practice ammo I was using (Prvi Partizan 94 grain FMJ) I was able to hold 3-4" groups which may not sound like much to most of you, but is quite impressive for me using a new super-compact pistol. I thought the gun was shooting 6" low for the first few mags, but 6 shots from a rest showed a nice 2" (with one flyer) group right on center at 7 yards. I know that long trigger is causing me to drop the muzzle, something practice will correct.

Final observations:
I really like this gun and think it personifies what I was looking for in a pocket pistol. I like love the size, and it is not at all painful to shoot. Accuracy (and my ability to shoot the tiny gun) was much better than I had hoped. It did not show any of the trigger slap/pinching that the P3at has. Everything that should be polished inside is, fit and finish are great. One design flaw I found is the slide has a lot of sharp corners on it and does not carry well without a pocket sheath (of which you should have anyway). The Ruger has a much more "melted" slide with no sharp corners anywhere. The sights were actually quite usable and machined accurately to allow center shooting when aiming right on at 7 yards. The grip allows for two fingers, but I felt very secure shooting the gun and wouldn't want it any longer. This gun is meant to be carried a lot and hopefully never used, so size is its number one trait. Reliability was excellent for the first trip to the range, and as long as you keep your fingers clear and your wrist clear, it seems to be an excellent shooter. A plus on the TCP over the LCP is on the last shot the slide locks back. The slide lock is small, and is pretty sticky right now but was a very welcome addition at the range. The slide serrations are very grippy and do their job well. The mag release button is made of steel (not polymer like I believe the prototypes were) and is out of the way while shooting, yet easy to active when you want to. The mags are under spring tension, and fall out with nice speed. The follower in the mags are plastic, but they have a steel insert which activates the slide hold-open. I think this gun is worth every penny of the $295 I paid for it, and it will be replacing my P239 as my carry gun when I find a good SD load and get a few more boxes through it.


My first shot injury:
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Notice the "residue" on the slide serrations (before cleaning):
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My current carry gun is the (very compact) Sig P239 in .40S&W. The P239 looks huge when shown with the TCP!
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The TCP comes with a Bulldog case, kinda nice but this thing fits so easily into the pocket that I don't think I will be using it.
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Good range report and an excellent job with the photos!

Sorry about your injury. Years ago, that exact thing happened to someone I brought along to the range who was unfamilar with firearms (outside the safety rules laid down, of course). I was unfortunate enough to be distracted by another buddy asking a question and was unaware the guest shooting my IJ-70 (commercial Russian Makarov) had switched grips to what you described as doing. There was blood and a lot of it. Never have I forgiven myself for allowing that to happen, although she did go on to purchase a Ruger P89 for home defense later that month.
 
I think of slide marks on the thumb knuckles as a badge of honor. I proudly wear them on both thumbs! The TCP looks nice, I got rid of my P3at because for 300 bucks give or take there are better options. I ended up getting a used kahr p9 w/night sights but i'm still looking for the right pocket gun.
 
I had never considered a Taurus and had been thinking of getting an LCP. I was in Academy the other day and took a look at the TCP. I like it. Besides being $40 cheaper than the LCP ($279 vs $319) the TCP has the stainless slide, the locking slide AND comes with two mags. I believe I'll pick one up next week.
I was doing some research and some were saying that reliability improves if you clean it thoroughly before shooting and also load your mags and let them sit for a couple of days.
 
I had already had this gun in my hands once & put it down. I had almost talked myself out of buying it again until you posted this (Thanks). Just kidding but I did find myself thinking that maybe my wife would carry that on here side since it would only look like a gun to the people that are into these themselves.

I would love to have one for the times that I can't carry my normal sidearm.
 
I took the picture of my thumb about an hour after it happened. It doesn't look like it in the pic, but I was cut to the tendons (luckily I didn't cut any). Because it was so cold, I didn't feel a thing. The cut bled like a faucet though and got all over my Ruger MkIII and Sig.

Reminds me of my scope kiss a few years back between my eyes...
 
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my local gunshop told me they've had many customers coming back with issues with this gun....



Right....your gun shop sounds like they were tying to sell you something else perhaps with a higher profit margin :)
 
mine is perfect through 400 rounds and it's really comfortable to shoot. Many 380's are a pain in the hand to shoot, but this one is a great pleasure.
 
I like that bulldog case, looks just like a camera case I have. Not the best for drawing your weapon but a good way to conceal in summer or on vacation.
 
my local gunshop told me they've had many customers coming back with issues with this gun....



Right....your gun shop sounds like they were tying to sell you something else perhaps with a higher profit margin


....uh nope.

i'm good friends with the gunshop owner, as well as all the employees (so much so that i know exactly what their profit margin is because i know what they pay for each gun), and also they know i'm not in the market to buy anything at the moment. this is something they won't tell the average customer that walks through the door, but they give me a heads up on any issues with certain guns (even "high profit margin ones").

nice guess, but you're way off, my friend.
 
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I am sorry to inform you that unless your 'dealer' is doing massive volumes of 738 TCP sales and service, their information is statistically insignificant and cannot represent a brand or model.

Please, if you want it to mean anything, quote some statistics. Actual data to support what you're trying to imply. How many sold? How many problems? What type of problems? How were they repaired?

Otherwise, it's just a person or two with a problem that 'internet spirals' into a supposed representation of brand/model problems.

Or worse, it's another "word of mouth, bash a brand" internet rumor.

Let's all stop doing that.
 
My TCP has worked perfectly with no FTF, FTE, FT anything. Not a big Taurus groupie but I love my TCP and my PT101 (deal of the year from Academy Sports!), HATED my 24/7.
 
Do you know what the issues were?
The issue I had was that it didn't fire out of the box. It was acting like it had double strike capabilities, which it doesn't. I sent it back, and it seems to be working now, but given that it's a brand new design, I expect some flaws on the first run.

For more range reports, you can check out the Taurus forums.
 
I am sorry to inform you that unless your 'dealer' is doing massive volumes of 738 TCP sales and service, their information is statistically insignificant and cannot represent a brand or model.

Please, if you want it to mean anything, quote some statistics. Actual data to support what you're trying to imply. How many sold? How many problems? What type of problems? How were they repaired?

Otherwise, it's just a person or two with a problem that 'internet spirals' into a supposed representation of brand/model problems.

Or worse, it's another "word of mouth, bash a brand" internet rumor.

Let's all stop doing that.

so you're saying you choose to ignore real world experiences. i think you're alone on that one, bro.


i'm glad that you like your taurus, but to question the credibility of someone's personal experience because it differs from yours is kinda rude.
 
i'm glad that you like your taurus, but to question the credibility of someone's personal experience because it differs from yours is kinda rude.

AND you have to understand that you shouldn't be spouting off how this entire gun line is junk because you heard something from a guy somewhere. Its not even your "Personal experience".

but you shouldn't be throwing stones.

JOe
 
so you're saying you choose to ignore real world experiences. i think you're alone on that one, bro.


i'm glad that you like your taurus, but to question the credibility of someone's personal experience because it differs from yours is kinda rude.




It's frustrating that you don't seem to understand the point. I'm not trying to be rude, nor am I trying to "question" real word experience. Additionally, I don't have real world experience with this gun (good or bad) nor did I claim to, I don't own it.

But here's the problem. Quite simply put, you're not sharing any "real world" experience, although you are "pretending" to do so under the guise that someone of significance told you something important.

But when I don't accept your second hand information at face value and ask you to put specifics around what you're trying to say, your response is:

"so you're saying you choose to ignore real world experiences. i think you're alone on that one, bro."

As I am sure you are aware, I am not related to you biologically nor through marriage. In addition, I do not have any type of causal relationship with you that would merit the use of a casual nickname. Consequently, I interpret your use of the term "bro" as an attempt at being derogatory, correct?

Now, if you said something like "my dealer sold 100 of these in the last 2 months and 20% are coming back defective with problem(s) x, y and z", that could help me understand your comments and your dealers concerns. Perhaps it would help me make a more informed decision. But, instead I get "blah, blah, blah...bro".

I'll let the people reading draw their own conclusions (meaning, we can stop conversing in the thread full metal jacket) and I'll continue reading the more productive and interesting conversation with the other people sharing more valuable content.
 
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....uh nope.

i'm good friends with the gunshop owner, as well as all the employees (so much so that i know exactly what their profit margin is because i know what they pay for each gun), and also they know i'm not in the market to buy anything at the moment. this is something they won't tell the average customer that walks through the door, but they give me a heads up on any issues with certain guns (even "high profit margin ones").

nice guess, but you're way off, my friend.
So far you've posted that you have heard stuff and are good friends with those who know stuff, but you have yet to contribute any relevant information. Please share some actual experience or save the gossip for another forum. Thanks.
 
Wow, this thread fell off the tracks...
Seeing as how this is a review thread and not a asking for opinions thread, let's keep the discussion to real world (involving shooting a TCP) expierience please. When I am thinking about buying a new gun, I search the net for reviews and love to get range reports, I don't like the "heard from some guy" type information because I ddon't know "some guy".
 
First off if one does not have experience with that particular model they have no say as anything is suspect. No experience means no well all around ability to make a judgement.

Even on example doth not make one a expert, but they have at least some experience on the gun itself where others do not.

I can claim to go to any number of stores and say all examples were garbage or pristine to a fault. In neither case is that verifiable or relevant to the conversation.

You want someone's actual input who has one, good and fine. That makes some sense.

Here's a take on the PT738 from the actual owners.
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=30275.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=29145.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=30029.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=29662.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=27521.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=27414.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=30198.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=30309.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=30237.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=30573.0
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=499595
 
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