I have a 21 year old brother. I take him out shooting when I can. However he can't hit anything. He can shoot clay pigeons with his 20 ga pump gun if he "ignores the front sight".
The only pistols I have are a pair of 1911's in .45, a 5" and a 3.5" officer's model. Both have the Hogue wraparound grips with finger grooves on them. I think his joints are all left elbows, he lines his fingers up on the ridges between the grooves on the grip. On my full size, he orients his strong side hand with his pinky hanging off, and weak side hand cupping underneath the gun.
I have spent a couple hours with him on dry fire attempting to teach him a proper grip like this:
However every time he picks up a pistol he does the same awkward grip and then has to stare at his hands and take 30 seconds to get into a workable grip. I've learned a good grip from observing others, experimentation, and taking advice from kind people who know more than I do.
I have tried and tried to teach my brother, but it seems impossible. I can't take him to a real range, because he can't put a bullet onto a 24" target beyond 5 yards. He ends up putting rounds into the walls and other people's targets.
Any advice on how to teach him effectively would be most appreciated. He is planning on buying a carry gun soon and getting his CWP. Here in UT there is no range qualification for a permit, so he could actually carry with no capability to effectively employ his sidearm and that scares me a little. I don't want to have to tell him not to carry because he'd be a menace if he ever had to use a firearm for self defense.
The problem here is probably just as much my instruction as it is his awkwardness. He's 5'10" about 160 lbs with no weird physical issues so he should be perfectly capable of learning good pistol technique.
The only pistols I have are a pair of 1911's in .45, a 5" and a 3.5" officer's model. Both have the Hogue wraparound grips with finger grooves on them. I think his joints are all left elbows, he lines his fingers up on the ridges between the grooves on the grip. On my full size, he orients his strong side hand with his pinky hanging off, and weak side hand cupping underneath the gun.
I have spent a couple hours with him on dry fire attempting to teach him a proper grip like this:
However every time he picks up a pistol he does the same awkward grip and then has to stare at his hands and take 30 seconds to get into a workable grip. I've learned a good grip from observing others, experimentation, and taking advice from kind people who know more than I do.
I have tried and tried to teach my brother, but it seems impossible. I can't take him to a real range, because he can't put a bullet onto a 24" target beyond 5 yards. He ends up putting rounds into the walls and other people's targets.
Any advice on how to teach him effectively would be most appreciated. He is planning on buying a carry gun soon and getting his CWP. Here in UT there is no range qualification for a permit, so he could actually carry with no capability to effectively employ his sidearm and that scares me a little. I don't want to have to tell him not to carry because he'd be a menace if he ever had to use a firearm for self defense.
The problem here is probably just as much my instruction as it is his awkwardness. He's 5'10" about 160 lbs with no weird physical issues so he should be perfectly capable of learning good pistol technique.