teamate shooting left

[Striker Fired]

I've got a puzzler and don't have any idea how to correct it.I'm shooting indoor pistol league,its a Bullseye type shoot,2 -10shot scoring rounds @ 20yrds.Well my teamate seems to have an issue with shooting left,like up to 2FEET left! I gave him snap caps and sometimes he would jerk but most not.Several of us have watched and tried to help with stance,grip,trigger control,on and on now for several weeks.Most of the time we can't even see any movement when the gun goes off,like he is aiming that far off.:banghead:usually out of 20 scoring shots only one or 2 will hit the entire target!The first week he had 15 hits,the next week 1.I'm at a loss as to what to do,he won't ever "get around to practice".He keeps saying that this weekend he'll practice bla,bla..never does.
Sad part is I'm getting the top score every week and we've even won several round because of my score and his handicap score,but that will slowly go away unless he starts to improve.
I have to try to be nice to him because he is my bosses son,which is part of the problem with practiceing,he's never had to because money always bought anything he needed,but this time,money won't help.

 

[dprice3844444]

check for eye dominance and dyslexia first.then have eyes examined for glasses

 

[LoonWulf]

Check how his finger actuates the trigger also. With a pistol, i would pull my shots left because i put pressure at an angle not strait back. I THOUGHT i was pulling strait back, I actually had to make a mental effort to try pull the trigger to the right as I broke the shot.

 

[MrBorland]

How's he feel about his performance? It could be an attitude problem rather than a technique issue.

 

[otasan56]

Grip! He should have a firm grip. That is where accuracy starts - in the grip.

 

[Bovice]

Quit and find a new partner. It doesn't sound like he's all that interested in shooting this sport.

 

[waktasz]

I was thinking eye dominance too.

How does he shoot with two hands?

It's hard to get a new shooter to shoot well with a .45 and one hand if they've never really shot before.

 

[sugarmaker]

Get a large cardboard box, put targets on either side, and see if he's grouping well in 2 very different locations or not grouping at all. If it's a dot sight, make sure it's tight, holds zero, and he's keeping the dot centered as they do have parallax, esp.cheap ones (2 feet of parallax would be a record, though...). Cover the non-shooting eye and see what happens. finger pressure on the side (dragging wood), not pulling the trigger straight back or grip tightening during pull can contribute, esp if the trigger is heavy. Lots of overtravel on a heavy trigger is also bad. Shot to shot hold must be consistant, heel of hand on the same place, etc. Sounds like he has some fundamentals to work on.

 

[AFDavis11]

Get a patch for one of his eyes.

 

[jmorris]

Take a .22 rifle with you next time as see how he does with that, will answer some of the questions above.

 

[Striker Fired]

We are both shooting 40 S&W,1 week I did shoot 45 but now I'm just sticking with the 40.
I attempted to find out if he was right eye dominant(he is right handed),but I could not get him to understand what I was talking about(remember, money bought him everything but brains,he had his own Cessna airplane at age 20),I was thinking left eye dominant also,but he claims to shut his left eye.Me and other guys there kept showing him grip and trigger pull ect..whether he does it or even understands what we are saying is another thing. I personally think he is clamping his whole hand as he is pulling the trigger.
This is two handed shooting(its kind of based on bullseye,but some differences)open sight only.I can't quit and get a new partner in the middle of the season,it would waste my efforts and all the practice I did this summer and fall,so I'm stuck.As far as whether he wants to shoot,I don't know,I just mentioned needing a teamate and he volunteered,even after I told him how many weeks and the details he seemed interested.Maybe he changed his mind.I'm ready to just move his sights to make up for whatever he's doing,just to get through the season.
If I could ever get him to go practice outside of showing up 10 min before we have to score our shots doesn't leave much room for actually curing the habit.

 

[waktasz]

I'd have to say screw him, finish the season, then get a new partner. Sorry if your team scores are not going to be good this year but if it was me I wouldn't waste my time and blood pressure meds on him.

 

[Hk Dan]

Naw, it's not eye dominance. It is a trigger and a grip issue. He needs to rotate the firing hand around the gun until he has a better finger position on the trigger, probably at the crease of the last joint (especially if he is shooting a GLOCK).

If he uses the tip or center of the pad, he'll push the gun left every time the trigger breaks.

 

[scythefwd]

Have you fired his gun and verified the sights aren't off?

 

[Joeyp]

I am right handed and cross eye dominant. Before I realized this I shot right handed and aimed with my right eye. I always shot to the left and depending on the gun sometimes way to the left. Once I discovered I was cross eye dominant I began to shoot right handed but aim with my left eye. This solved my shooting to the left.

I am still getting used to shooting lefty with the shotgun and rifle.