Ted Kennedy, more treason exposed.

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It never ceases to amaze me that Chappaquidick Teddy keeps getting re elected. He murdered a gal back in the late 1960s. He violates his oath to defend the Constitution constantly,especially with his attacks on the Second Amendment and gun owners. Now the KGB Archives have turned up his collaboration with the Soviets.....Time for the folks in Taxachussetes to throw the bum out......Also time to prosecute him for his various serious and sundry crimes.

http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewNation.asp?Page=/Nation/archive/200610/NAT20061020b.html


KGB Letter Outlines Sen. Kennedy's Overtures to Soviets, Prof Says
By Kevin Mooney
CNSNews.com Staff Writer
October 20, 2006

(CNSNews.com) - The antipathy that congressional Democrats have today toward President George W. Bush is reminiscent of their distrust of President Ronald Reagan during the Cold War, a political science professor says.

"We see some of the same sentiments today, in that some Democrats see the Republican president as being a threat and the true obstacle to peace, instead of seeing our enemies as the true danger," said Paul Kengor, a political science professor at Grove City College and the author of new book, "The Crusader: Ronald Reagan and the Fall of Communism."

In his book, which came out this week, Kengor focuses on a KGB letter written at the height of the Cold War that shows that Sen. Edward Kennedy (D-Mass.) offered to assist Soviet leaders in formulating a public relations strategy to counter President Reagan's foreign policy and to complicate his re-election efforts.

The letter, dated May 14, 1983, was sent from the head of the KGB to Yuri Andropov, who was then General Secretary of the Soviet Union's Communist Party.

In his letter, KGB head Viktor Chebrikov offered Andropov his interpretation of Kennedy's offer. Former U.S. Sen. John Tunney (D-Calif.) had traveled to Moscow on behalf of Kennedy to seek out a partnership with Andropov and other Soviet officials, Kengor claims in his book.

At one point after President Reagan left office, Tunney acknowledged that he had played the role of intermediary, not only for Kennedy but for other U.S. senators, Kengor said. Moreover, Tunney told the London Times that he had made 15 separate trips to Moscow.

"There's a lot more to be found here," Kengor told Cybercast News Service. "This was a shocking revelation."

It is not evident with whom Tunney actually met in Moscow. But the letter does say that Sen. Kennedy directed Tunney to reach out to "confidential contacts" so Andropov could be alerted to the senator's proposals.

Specifically, Kennedy proposed that Andropov make a direct appeal to the American people in a series of television interviews that would be organized in August and September of 1983, according to the letter.

"Tunney told his contacts that Kennedy was very troubled about the decline in U.S -Soviet relations under Reagan," Kengor said. "But Kennedy attributed this decline to Reagan, not to the Soviets. In one of the most striking parts of this letter, Kennedy is said to be very impressed with Andropov and other Soviet leaders."

In Kennedy's view, the main reason for the antagonism between the United States and the Soviet Union in the 1980s was Reagan's unwillingness to yield on plans to deploy middle-range nuclear missiles in Western Europe, the KGB chief wrote in his letter.

"Kennedy was afraid that Reagan was leading the world into a nuclear war," Kengor said. "He hoped to counter Reagan's polices, and by extension hurt his re-election prospects."

As a prelude to the public relations strategy Kennedy hoped to facilitate on behalf of the Soviets, Kengor said, the Massachusetts senator had also proposed meeting with Andropov in Moscow -- to discuss the challenges associated with disarmament.

In his appeal, Kennedy indicated he would like to have Sen. Mark Hatfield (R-Ore.) accompany him on such a trip. The two senators had worked together on nuclear freeze proposals.

But Kennedy's attempt to partner with high-level Soviet officials never materialized. Andropov died after a brief time in office and was succeeded by Mikhail Gorbachev.

In his attempt to reach out the Soviets, Kennedy settled on a flawed receptacle for peace, Kengor said. Andropov was a much more belligerent and confrontational leader than the man who followed him, in Kengor's estimation.

"If Andropov had lived and Gorbachev never came to power, I can't imagine the Cold War ending peacefully like it did," Kengor told Cybercast News Service. "Things could have gotten ugly."

In the long run of history, Kengor believes it is evident that Reagan's policies were vindicated while Kennedy was proven wrong. In fact, as he points out in his book, Kennedy himself made a "gracious concession" after Reagan died, crediting the 40th president with winning the Cold War.
 
This has what to do with guns? :scrutiny:

Other than the mildly disturbing screaming obsession people of a certain extreme political stripe have with this guy for events that may or may not have happened over FORTY YEARS ago.

Give it a rest! There's more pressing issues happening NOW, in case you hadn't noticed
 
As I mentioned early in the post its a further demonstration of his treason against the country and the constitution. His attacks on the Second Amendment are a violation of his oath of office. It offends me that this pompous murderer is still in office. Her death was in 1969 as I recall. Not 40 years ago. Never the less murder is murder no matter how many years have passed. As far as not happening I can send you articles and pictures. He admits he left her there, he assumed she was dead....as she suffocated in a air pocket for hours, while he and his pals figured out how to save his political fortunes and future. As to pressing issues, treason is a pressing issue, so is justice and competence. Something both the gun hating Senators of Mass. lack in spades. His colaboration with the Soviets is a further undermining of our national security, now exposed. I am reminding our friends in Mass, that it is time to retire this criminal......

If you wish to defend the gun banning traitor go ahead. But you do so at the risk of your own reputation on this board.
 
My reputation? Is that a threat? Oh, that's REAL "high road".
And who is defending, rather than just pointing out what seems to be a curious lifelong obsession people have with a single politician? Don't put words in my mouth, and keep your strawmen to yourself.

I think someone is drinking a bit too much kool-aid. :barf:
 
Manedwolf said:
Other than the mildly disturbing screaming obsession people of a certain extreme political stripe have with this guy for events that may or may not have happened over FORTY YEARS ago.
Give it a rest! There's more pressing issues happening NOW, in case you hadn't noticed

What's passed is prologue. What people do reveals their character. And those who fail to learn from history suffer the curse of repeating it."...events that may or may not have happened over FORTY YEARS ago." I'm not sure I can positively state Kennedy DID "collaborate" with the Soviets against Reagan, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if he did -- and HE wouldn't call it "collaboration" or "treason," either. But do you deny he was responsible for Mary Jo Kopechne's death?
A cousin of mine is editor at a major city newspaper where she lives and has seen Ted Kennedy behind the scenes live and in person at speeches and other political gatherings, and has told tales of Teddy that would curl the nails of most people here. But I won't repeat them here -- they'd only be "hearsay" and wouldn't be "highroad," and, most important of all...I wouldn't want to be mistaken for some "screaming obsess(ed) people of a certain extreme political stripe."

Oh..thanks for the reminder that we have more "pressing" issues now. Given that we're six days away from a midterm election, that would never have occured to me without your esteemed help.
 
Pretty sure Manedwolf's reputation here is secure. And he has a point. Let's focus on the here and now. We won't get anywhere focusing on 40 years ago.
Edited to add that I agree Kennedy is a scumbag of the highest order. That is a well-known fact, I think.
 
My reputation? Is that a threat?
No, of course not. You are bing overly defensive.
And who is defending,
You are, by wanting to change the subject and not talk about his failings is a defense of Mr. Kennedy. I am suggesting you think about how it sounds to the rest of us here, on a gun board that you don't want to discuss how this man, who has made clear that he is an enemy to gun owners, should not be in office.

By removing Ted Kennedy from the Senate you also remove the biggest gun banner next to Chuck Schumer from the Senate Judiciary Committee. As chances are good that the President will have two more Supreme Court picks the make up of that committee is very germaine and is a pressing issue to all gun owners.
 
Come on folks. How is this relevent to the board? Aren't there better things to be talking about this election season?
 
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