Ted Nugent telling it like it is.

[Joe Demko]

There seems to be some confusion. It's entirely possible for Ted and Rosie to be jack-asses at the same time. My agreeing with Ted on the 2A in no way means I have to endorse his acting like an idiot.
Funny, isn't it, how he and Charlie Daniels (among others) are so bellicose now, but seemed of a different mind when they could have been a pair of boots on the ground?

 

[shooter429]

Radical far right?

LOL I guess when you are left of center...everything looks "far right." I don't think the RKBA should be about swing voters or people easily swayed by media. Like him or not, Ted is being a straight shooter, and he echoes my thoughts and feelings exactly, like em or not. Do you really think that many who supports a communist beotch like Hillary are going to be ardent supporters of our RKBA?

Of course not! So let the man speak.

BTW, what does my national origin have to do with anything? Uff da!

Shooter429

 

[SuperNaut]

Of course not! So let the man speak.

Wouldn't dream of trying to stop him.

 

[henry123]

Hillary IS what he says she is. What's wrong with that?

Ted candy coats NOTHING. Why would he?

 

[Glock Glockler]

Do you really think that many who supports a communist beotch like Hillary are going to be ardent supporters of our RKBA?

Why is this concept so difficult for you to understand? The way he delivers his message alienates people, one doesn't have to be a Hillary lover in order to be turned off by Ted's classless actions. Saying things like that doesn't win people over to your side.

I don't think the RKBA should be about swing voters or people easily swayed by media

Why, do they vote less then people that aren't swayed by the media?

Hillary IS what he says she is

If so, why the need to say it? Do you feel the need to state the obvious?

What's wrong with that?

It turns people off, that's what's wrong with it.

Why would he?

He wouldn't, he doesn't care about being effective to advance RKBA, he wants attention for himself and this is a way to do it.

BTW, if your wife asks you if the dress makes her look fat what do you tell her?

 

[Mavrick12]

Sorry double post.

 

[Mavrick12]

Hmm...People who are easily swayed by the media.....The general media isnt with us for the most part......Easily swayed....By God Ive Got it!

Take them all to a gun show right before the election! Take the group around the table with all the Aks 12 times and tell them how the Ak came to be! Problem solved there!

Little comedy To break the tension.

People sometimes have opposite views on one thing(or person in this case) and different views on another thing, and its Fine. We argue amongst ourselves to much.

 

[shooter429]

Glockglockler, I understand perfectly.

I understand that people who would vote for her are already liberal minded and they are doing so because they think she is a good (leftist) candidate and will push sweeping gun bans among other freedom destroying social measures on the populace. Remember last time she was president? Remember the Clinton ban? She is even more a radical now than she was then since she does not have to speak through Bill. Let me name a few Democrats of her ilk and you draw your own conclusions. Ted Kennedy. Barbara Boxer, Diane Feinstein, and the ever so popular Sarah Brady.

Does anybody really think that we should be silent or politically correct and keep it hush hush for fear of offending our enemies before the election? These people are not interested in logic, reason or even real social justice. They are intent on forcing their freedom-hating will on our people to bring us in line with other "modern" socialist nations.

I think we should all be thankful for any celebs that speak up against the darkness that is headed our way. The media, and most of Hollywood are pushing hard for a socialist state. Now is the time to act. Not after our country, God forbid, is handed over to Stalin,,,ummm, I mean Clinton.

Who are ya trying to kid?

Shooter429

 

[CoinMan]

I've always liked Ted's music, but when he speaks, he come across as being a few bricks short of a load. The anti-gun left assumes that all gun owners are hopeless psychopaths with rage disorders, capable of snapping at any moment, and Atrocious Theodosious only perpetuates that stereotype. I would be much more comfortable listening to his opinions if he emailed them to some other celeb who appears to be more emotional stable when he speaks, and is able to tone down the message. Maybe an NFL QB or Major League player.

Ted should stick to "blowing the balls off charging rhinos from 50 paces." (His words, not mine.)

 

[MAX100]

Some are confused as to what being in the center means.

Being in the center means you believe in some of the Left views and some of the right views.

Most of the US are in the center. Some are center, some are a little right center and some are a little left center but basically in the center.

You will find most on the right do not back Ted Nugent or Ann Coutler and no one in the center or on the left. That makes both Far right Radicals.

What I am little upset with is, Republicans has had control of Government for 6 years and has done nothing to overturn any past gun control legislations. They let one lapse but that is not good enough. Where was the NRA during those 6 years.


GC

 

[CoinMan]

"What I am little upset with is, Republicans has had control of Government for 6 years and has done nothing to overturn any past gun control legislations. "

Actually, it was 12 years, since Newt in '94. And nothing.

That's really the difference between Republicans and Democrats. Republicans do nothing, and Democrats do too much, making us wish they had done nothing.

 

[XavierBreath]

This thread has now gone irreversibly to the dogs. It's a shame. At a time that our second amendment right is in jeopardy, examination of those who represent us is imperative. As gun owners, we need to take control of our political power and public image. We need to asess our leaders. We need to know our enemies. Sometimes though, when we can not honestly and rationally discuss an issue within our own allegiances, our enemies are ourselves.

This thread is not being closed to prevent that discussion.

This thread is being closed because of the failure to discuss that issue.

The quickest, most effective means of arriving at legitimate political power in a democracy is to increase your numbers, and then get them out to vote. To increase your numbers, you must persuade those who believe differently to believe like yourself. That goal is not achieved through alienation. As gun owners, we will lose our second amendment right if we do not increase our numbers. We can not wait for babies to be born. We must persuade the ambivalent. We must convert non-gun owners to gun owners. If we fail to do so in sufficient numbers we will be handing our prized Pythons or Winchesters to a government agent rather than our grandchildren.

The issue of who leads and represents us is important. We are seen by non-gun owners, who we need to convert as a part of the group represented by that leader. The very person we need to persuade to our way of thinking also sees our leaders, and often questions "Do I want to be represented by this person?" That is why the discussion of the effectiveness of our leaders is important. This thread, however, has ceased discussing that.


Shall we recognize a new axiom?

"If an online discussion mentions Hillary Clinton, the probability of words rhyming with rich approaches one." Xavier's Axiom

Of course, you could substitute Rosie, Coulter, and a host of other women in the public eye. One could also say the same about outspoken men and a briefcase full of disparaging names. That does not make such impotent namecalling right, correct, or appropriate for this forum. There are many other forums for those who desire to beat their chests to the tempo of internet rage. And no, I do not support Hillary Clinton. I support rational, objective and productive discussion.