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Ted Williams Model 100 Sight Adjustment

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by CCWB, Aug 4, 2009.

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  1. CCWB

    CCWB Member

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    I tried to search but it's not working.
    I picked up this Ted Williams Model 100 lever action in 30-30 for around $300 thinking it was a decent deal. The thing shoots high-right. So the elevation adjustment drops it 2", and moving the bead doesn't do much. I'm trying to sight in @25yds and think the barrel is bent. So I drop in the bore sight laser and everything seems on target.

    Just to debunk operator error, I have bore sighted several other rifles, and even checked my black powder out, and all hit in a 1-1 1/2" group 100% of the time.

    WHAT GIVES? It's like the rifle attaches a high-right tracking system to the round.
     
  2. American Rifleman

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    Maybe as you are shooting the barrel warms up, moving the shots up to the right.
     
  3. American Rifleman

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    P.S.-I didn't know he made guns.
     
  4. rcmodel

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    The Ted Williams 100 is a Model 94 Winchester with the Sears-Roebuck trade name.

    Lever-action carbines are very sensitive to forearm control.

    You have to hold them down during recoil or they will kick up off POA and shoot high/right due to recoil & rifling torque.

    If you shoot one over sandbags and don't hold it down, it will shoot high.

    rc
     
  5. ShakyJake

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    +1 to rcmodel. I grew up watching oaters and James Stewart and John Wayne. When I tried holding my first 30-30 that way it was shooting 4-6" high at 25yds after bore sighting in also. Realized it needed a good firm hold front and rear. Once that was achieved it settled in and went essentially to POA-POI with some minor adjustments. I also have a TW 100 and like it a lot. Will group pretty good at 50yds too. Far as I can see with 67yo peepers, trifocals and iron sights. Enjoy.
    TaKe CaRe
    Ted
     
  6. Ratshooter

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    I had one of those. They are nice rifles. I sold it to my brother in law 20 years ago. I know he intends to pay me for it some day.

    I don't remember for sure if this rifle had it but if its like the winchester rear sight there are two screws on the rear blade. You can loosen those and drop the rear blade down a little more.

    To adjust the windage move the rear sight in the slot the direction you want the bullet to move. I use an address label and slide it under the front of the rear site. Trace around the point on the rear site. Now when you tap the sight base over you can see exactly how much it moved. Sometimes they are a little stuck and may need a good whack to get them started.
     
  7. CCWB

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    Thanks for the insight. I gripped that puppy firmly and got 7 out of 10 in the ring_ 3 touching and 4 touching.

    I'l move the rear sight as instructed, and will report back. I currently shoot about 2" to the left to compensate
     
  8. rcmodel

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    Before you move the rear sight, check the front sight blade in the ramp and make sure it is centered and not bent.

    They get bumped around much more often then the rear sight it seems.

    rc
     
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    Hold the fore end so the rifle doesn't free recoil. If you're on the paper at 25 yds I wouldn't touch the sights until you move the target out to a more realistic range. At 25 yds it's impossible to say what's really going on.

    A 2" - 3" group at 100 yds is pretty typical with a Winchester 94 & open sights. Some do better with a shooter that does their part and ammo the rifle likes. A peep sight would be an excellent addition. IMO, 2" high at 100 yds would be an ideal zero with factory ammo.
     
  10. ShakyJake

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    Hi,
    Kernel brought me back to reality. My final sight in was 50 yds not 25yds. At 25yds I expected it to shoot high. At 50yds it would go to POA. Can't see beyond that for shooting without help. The right was corrected by firmer hold. Kernel is also right, get it out further and the POA-POI should come together. 25yd is pretty close for factory sights. I think I am going to try a Skinner sight on the dovetail. Worked great on a previous rifle.
    TaKe CaRe
    Ted
     
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