GUESSCRAZY
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Never owned a 32 but am getting my ccw and am looking at
keltec 32's.
keltec 32's.
Tell about 32 acp
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Taurus_9mm
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I'm interested in a 32 ACP as well. Not really so much for self-defense but I would like another plinker that isn't a 22LR. If I can find a CZ-83 then that's what I want.
http://www.goldenloki.com/ammo/gel/32acp/gel32acp.htm
http://www.goldenloki.com/ammo/gel/32acp/gel32acp.htm
The .32 ACP... rather the 7.65mm started WWI and ended WWII. Low recoil, fun to shoot, and some classic guns are chambered in it. Good enough for James Bond, like a "brick through a plate glass window"... compared to his .25 ACP.
My favorite non-45 round.
My favorite non-45 round.
MICHAEL T
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3 P-32's in the family now all have been trouble free and reliable One is in my pocket as I sit here. great little pocket carry pistol I have a P-3AT but still hard to find ammo and it has a lot more recoil and carries 1 round less
denfoote
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If you are gonna carry a .32 caliber gun, fer God's sake get one with class!!
cavemanforester
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I have an old Colt 1903. Sights suck, but shoots well if I do my part.
Speedo66
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If you are gonna carry a .32 caliber gun, fer God's sake get one with class!!
Get one with class? You mean like a German made Walther?
Snowdog
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The P32 is hard to beat if you need something when you can't carry something more substantial for whatever reason. There have been plenty of times I've tossed my P32 in a pocket and take off.
Unlike my primary carry pistol (K9), I don't plan on aiming COM with the P32 since I'm not all that confident in its abilities to stop a threat. However, I am fairly confident of the .32acp's abilities if it they slam into the snotlocker/braincase, so that's how I practice with it. Yes, that means I'm very close to the assailant, but that's "last-ditch defense" for ya.
I plan on swapping from S&B 73gr FMJ to BB 75gr hard cast... someday.
Unlike my primary carry pistol (K9), I don't plan on aiming COM with the P32 since I'm not all that confident in its abilities to stop a threat. However, I am fairly confident of the .32acp's abilities if it they slam into the snotlocker/braincase, so that's how I practice with it. Yes, that means I'm very close to the assailant, but that's "last-ditch defense" for ya.
I plan on swapping from S&B 73gr FMJ to BB 75gr hard cast... someday.
MattTheHat
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The 1903 Colt is a very nice shooter in both .32 ACP and .380 ACP. Nice and compact, very little recoil, surprisingly accurate, and classy as all get out. The sites are a bit small, which can be rectified by a good pistolsmith.
-Matt
-Matt
svaz
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The little .32 should serve you well. There are, I believe, three main schools of thought on .32 ammo:
1) hardball - penetration over expansion, since it can't be relied on to expand every time
2) hot JHP - CorBons seem to be a favorite
3) European ammo - our American .32 ammo is wimpy - Fiochhi is seemingly a favorite of this crowd.
I like the .32, there's something romantic about it. And of course, it hits like, "... [a] brick through a plate glass window. The American CIA swear by them."*
*Major Boothroyd to 007, Dr. No - hey, if it's good enough for a fictional character, it's good enough for me.
1) hardball - penetration over expansion, since it can't be relied on to expand every time
2) hot JHP - CorBons seem to be a favorite
3) European ammo - our American .32 ammo is wimpy - Fiochhi is seemingly a favorite of this crowd.
I like the .32, there's something romantic about it. And of course, it hits like, "... [a] brick through a plate glass window. The American CIA swear by them."*
*Major Boothroyd to 007, Dr. No - hey, if it's good enough for a fictional character, it's good enough for me.
I struggled with the same question a while back. My conclusion came after a string of incidents last year where people were killed by someone hellbent on killing as many people as they could before dying at the hands of police or by taking their own lives. This is in stark contrast to my original reasoning behind carrying a pocket gun which was to fend off muggers and their ilk.
Originally, my thought process was somewhere along the lines of "If a mugger id's you as a target and you point a small black object at him, it makes a loud bang and his belly starts burning..... he'll change is mind and leave." While I do firmly believe that a 32ACP, 380 or 9x18 Pow R' Ball round would easily make a single mugger stop what he's doing and end the confrontation, I don't see the same being true in a multiple attacker situation such as being boxed in by 2-3 assailants in a parking garage (Happened to a close friend while Christmas shopping with his daughter in Atlanta last month) or an armed standoff where both sides draw arms and head for cover. The worst possible scenarios are those such as the Fort Hood incident, the Orlando office shooting that same week or any number of similar incidents that seem to be more prevalent in our society. Just last week in Atlanta, a man entered a crowded McDonalds and robbed the cashier at gunpoint then shot the security guard. What I came to accept was that if I ever had to use my gun I want the best chance of ending the confrontation as quickly as possible.
As a CCW I think you are wasting your money and risking your safety on a gun chambered in 32acp. IMHO, the round is just insufficient for use a self defense load. Couple that with the fact that the 32 is a rimmed cartridge and prone to rimlock and I think that it is a recipe for disaster. The truth is you are more than likely never going to need to actually fire your gun in self defense. If you ever have to, however, don't you want a round that will give you every chance at stopping the attack? A 32 can kill a person but it won't stop a determined, armed attacker before he has the chance to do you or yours great harm.
There are several small guns out there that are easy to conceal and pack a much better punch. The PF9, PM9/40, PPS, G26/27/33 are just a few.
This is just my opinion and not meant to devalue anyone's opinion. I did what was best for me and am comfortable with my decision. You will have to do the same for yourself.
Originally, my thought process was somewhere along the lines of "If a mugger id's you as a target and you point a small black object at him, it makes a loud bang and his belly starts burning..... he'll change is mind and leave." While I do firmly believe that a 32ACP, 380 or 9x18 Pow R' Ball round would easily make a single mugger stop what he's doing and end the confrontation, I don't see the same being true in a multiple attacker situation such as being boxed in by 2-3 assailants in a parking garage (Happened to a close friend while Christmas shopping with his daughter in Atlanta last month) or an armed standoff where both sides draw arms and head for cover. The worst possible scenarios are those such as the Fort Hood incident, the Orlando office shooting that same week or any number of similar incidents that seem to be more prevalent in our society. Just last week in Atlanta, a man entered a crowded McDonalds and robbed the cashier at gunpoint then shot the security guard. What I came to accept was that if I ever had to use my gun I want the best chance of ending the confrontation as quickly as possible.
As a CCW I think you are wasting your money and risking your safety on a gun chambered in 32acp. IMHO, the round is just insufficient for use a self defense load. Couple that with the fact that the 32 is a rimmed cartridge and prone to rimlock and I think that it is a recipe for disaster. The truth is you are more than likely never going to need to actually fire your gun in self defense. If you ever have to, however, don't you want a round that will give you every chance at stopping the attack? A 32 can kill a person but it won't stop a determined, armed attacker before he has the chance to do you or yours great harm.
There are several small guns out there that are easy to conceal and pack a much better punch. The PF9, PM9/40, PPS, G26/27/33 are just a few.
This is just my opinion and not meant to devalue anyone's opinion. I did what was best for me and am comfortable with my decision. You will have to do the same for yourself.
Ala Dan
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Seecamp LWS-32 ACP
the "Rolls Royce" of .32 caliber semi-auto's~!
the "Rolls Royce" of .32 caliber semi-auto's~!
MICHAEL T
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32 only has developed the rimlock since the increase use of Hollow points before this rimlock was unheard of. It's because the 32HP is shorter than Ball 32 this allows the bullet to move around in the mag and can cause rimlock. The Winchester flat nose 32 can also rimlock Once again its because of the over all length . Shoot ball and don't worry. Or first 2 rounds, 1 in chamber and 1st in mag HP rest ball No rimlock
Don't underestimate the 32 auto Its not all that weak . Like any caliber it required practice and shot placement I rather have a 32 that I can hit where I aim quickly. Than a larger caliber I can't shoot very well . A small 9mm has to much recoil for many people .Same with a 38 snub. 32auto been around over a 100 yrs(1899) saw widespread use by police and military in Europe . Has been carried and shot in America for many many years So 32acp seems to have staying power and many people swear by it. . Just as many swear against the use of anything that doesn't start with a 4 They all have their place and followers .
Don't underestimate the 32 auto Its not all that weak . Like any caliber it required practice and shot placement I rather have a 32 that I can hit where I aim quickly. Than a larger caliber I can't shoot very well . A small 9mm has to much recoil for many people .Same with a 38 snub. 32auto been around over a 100 yrs(1899) saw widespread use by police and military in Europe . Has been carried and shot in America for many many years So 32acp seems to have staying power and many people swear by it. . Just as many swear against the use of anything that doesn't start with a 4 They all have their place and followers .
JR47
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I live 70 miles north of Atlanta, and crime here is about non-existent. Move out of the cess-pool of the big city, and you won't need shoulder fired weapons to "feel safe". I have a P32 in my pocket as I type this. I can put 7 rounds of Fiocchi JHP into 4" at 15 yards.
I also don't anticipate many long affairs around here. We have a bored City Police, Sheriff's Department, and GSP all just waiting for the sounds of gun-fire. Within a couple of minutes, it would look like an FOP convention.
This nice, cool, weather DOES allow me to carry something in.40 or ,45, though, so I'll have TWO guns on me.
I also don't anticipate many long affairs around here. We have a bored City Police, Sheriff's Department, and GSP all just waiting for the sounds of gun-fire. Within a couple of minutes, it would look like an FOP convention.
This nice, cool, weather DOES allow me to carry something in.40 or ,45, though, so I'll have TWO guns on me.
DERGLOCKINMEISTER
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.32 for you
Beretta tomcat .30 with crimson trace laser . A great combination !
Beretta tomcat .30 with crimson trace laser . A great combination !
We live about 25 miles south of the city limits. When I bought my house here in 2001 our exit didn't even have a gas station. Now we have a mega shopping complex, 3 Walmarts within a 10 minute drive and all of Clayton County beating on our borders trying to escape the worst run county in the state. Half of the houses in my neighborhood are for sale and there's not a lot I can do about any of it. ~sigh~
I'd love to move up to Rome or Calhoun but there really isn't any hope of that happening any time soon....
.32 ACP is a marginal caliber that gets adequate penetration using FMJ rounds; hollow-point rounds do not reliably expand and penetrate perhaps too little when they do, in my opinion (there are also known reliability issues with feeding). It's perfectly capable of killing, probably very nearly as well as 9mm or even .45 ACP FMJ rounds, actually, at short ranges and if there are no hard barriers such as arm bones or automobile windshields to penetrate first (that's what I meant by marginal--it doesn't have as much margin to work with under less-than-ideal conditions).
While I'd feel more comfortable with at least a subcompact 9mm in a gunfight, I'd have no doubt that a .32 ACP can get the job done against unarmored human targets, under the vast majority of circumstances, if I can hit what I'm aiming at. Then again, for perspective I'd say the same of a good .22 LR round like the CCI Stinger. For reference, my personal comfort zone is a 180gr .40 S&W JHP out of a full-size pistol, but to invoke the old but true cliché I still wouldn't want to get shot by a .32 ACP, no way, no how.
While I'd feel more comfortable with at least a subcompact 9mm in a gunfight, I'd have no doubt that a .32 ACP can get the job done against unarmored human targets, under the vast majority of circumstances, if I can hit what I'm aiming at. Then again, for perspective I'd say the same of a good .22 LR round like the CCI Stinger.
For reference, my personal comfort zone is a 180gr .40 S&W JHP out of a full-size pistol, but to invoke the old but true cliché I still wouldn't want to get shot by a .32 ACP, no way, no how.I carry the 45 as my primary, and I would recommend the minimum round to be .38+P. moving up to 9mm, 40, 45. If deep concealment is an issue, try going with a .380.
As a BUG round, I love the .32. My Beretta slips right into my pocket, although I'm finding it hard to justify throwing a .32 in there when my wife's 9mm Taurus Slim fits in there as well.
Does anyone know of any "vest pocket" pistols in 32/7.65? Something along the lines of a Baby Browning or a Colt 1908 Vest Pocket Model. They all seem to be made for .25, and I don't need/want YARTB or a .25 period.
As a BUG round, I love the .32. My Beretta slips right into my pocket, although I'm finding it hard to justify throwing a .32 in there when my wife's 9mm Taurus Slim fits in there as well.
Does anyone know of any "vest pocket" pistols in 32/7.65? Something along the lines of a Baby Browning or a Colt 1908 Vest Pocket Model. They all seem to be made for .25, and I don't need/want YARTB or a .25 period.
KBintheSLC
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I love the P32 personally... I currently own 2 of them. Wrote a full review with pix on my blog... here is the direct link to the page...
http://brasstard.com/?p=11
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http://brasstard.com/?p=11
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SharpsDressedMan
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Perhaps a Webley? Possibly one of the ugliest/weirdest looking auto pistols out there.
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