Tell me the difference between the trigger on an XD...

[ezypikns]

and a Glock. I honestly thought they were both striker fired. There was a fellow, Dick Metcalf, on 'Personal Defense TV', who made the statement that the XD has a completely cocked trigger, rather than a partially cocked trigger as on a Glock. He said that the XD has more of a 'single action' feel than a Glock. Of course, Springfield Armory is one of their sponsors.

Confusion reigns.

 

[RNB65]

He's correct. Both the Glock and the XD have the striker partially retracted by the rearward movement of the slide. The difference is that the XD striker is very close to being fully retracted similiar to a single action system.

The diff in feeling is that Glock has a long, smooth trigger pull and the XD has a long take-up followed by a very short trigger pull. I prefer the XD.

 

[CPshooter]

They are similar, but different in trigger pull. The glock, as described, feels like it has a longer, more DA feel because the weight throughout the pull is more consistent and doesn't seem to "stack" as much as the XD trigger does. However, i guess it does sort of "stack" a little, depending on how you define "stack", because the Glock trigger pull is actually harder towards the rear of the pull than it is at the beginning. Then right at the rear of the pull, it seems to snap like a single action "click."

The XD has more noticeable stages in the trigger's travel. First stage is light, 2nd stage is a little heavier, then it stops right before the same kind of single action "click" that the Glock has.

In my opinion, after owning 2 Glocks and 2 XDs, the XD trigger is FAR superior. Sure, the Glock was described as "smoother" just because of the consistency in the trigger weight throughout the pull, but in reality the Glock's trigger feel is LESS smooth and solid when compared to the XD pull. The Glock's plastic trigger setup makes the pull feel a bit grindy and unsmooth. The side-to side play is more noticeable on the Glock as well. The ergonomics of the XDs trigger are better IMO. Your finger sits on the trigger perfectly, and when you pull the trigger it comes straight back and the sights stay on target. The Glock trigger is uncomfortable, sharp, and the safety on it feels like total crap when compared to the XD trigger safety.

Overall, i feel that the XD trigger system is far better than the Glock. I actually shoot the XD better than any other pistol I've shot because of how nice the trigger pull is (including my Walther P99 AS which also has a great trigger pull).

You really have to shoot both with live ammo to understand why the XD just shoots better hope that helps...

 

[varoadking]

He's correct. Both the Glock and the XD have the striker partially retracted by the rearward movement of the slide. The difference is that the XD striker is very close to being fully retracted similiar to a single action system.

Both are striker fired, however, the XD is fully cocked once you chamber a round, whereas the trigger pull completes the cocking action on a Glock.

They are, in fact, two different animals...

Sure, the Glock was described as "smoother" just because of the consistency in the trigger weight throughout the pull, but in reality the Glock's trigger feel is LESS smooth and solid when compared to the XD pull.

Sorry - this statement makes no sense...

 

[lee n. field]

The safety lever in the XD's trigger simply blocks rearward movement of the trigger. The Glock's is (if I recall correctly, I don't have a diagram in front of me) doing more.

The XD's striker is fully retracted. That won't make much difference. It's still less than half an inch. Tap and rack to clear a failure is going to be exactly the same as with the Glock -- no second strike on either.

The XD has more noticeable stages in the trigger's travel. First stage is light, 2nd stage is a little heavier, then it stops right before the same kind of single action "click" that the Glock has.

I just got an XD. Compared to what it replacedthe XD's trigger is heaven.

 

[AcenJay]

Personally, I like the Glock trigger better. It has a very short trigger reset allowing for faster follow up shots. Also, it's very easy to work on the trigger yourself and buy the parts for it. The XD trigger to me felt kind of cheap and has a longer trigger reset.

 

[dstorm1911]

Leeenfield, actually it makes ALL of the difference the XD is a true Single action the trigger has zero interaction with regards to cocking the striker at all, it is fully cocked by the slide cycling, therefore as with a 1911 the only thing the trigger is doing is dropping the sear away from the ledge on the striker to fire the weapon.

No comparison at all to a Glock trigger think more in terms of comparing it to a 1911 trigger but with more travel, which was engineered in for safty, A competant smith can completally duplicate a 1911 style trigger with the XD, (all of mine I reworked) if ya go to the XD forum ya will find links to Canyon creek they do trigger work specifically for XDs I think it runs about $130,

As far as working on an XD trigger yourself, its extremally easy to rework, all of mine are exactly the same as all of my 1911s, takes me 20 minutes to "fix" an XD trigger, the reset is super simple to shorten as is the over travel the rest is basics mine are setup so that the trigger mounted safty (depressing it) is your pretravel there is only 3/32" of actual trigger pretravel, the total trigger travel
is 1/4" the reset is at 3/32" from the over travel stop point so most shooters who use one of my XDs really cannot distinguish the reset point, on a stock gun they were originally intended for soldiers to use in combat, the Glock was designed for police officer use and only needed to meet those requirments as Austria has no standing army, The XD was designed for the Croation military dureing a time of constant war and fighting. To get some idea how hard they treat their guns go take a look at your basic Yugo AKm47, or SKS etc... they beat the hell outa their guns and the XD had to be able to remain reliable even when not cleaned for weeks on end, My XDs are not used in such harsh conditions by comparison, so tightening up the reset etc.. is o.k it was originally designed long so that it would in effect be self cleaning with the extra movement, once ya see how the trigger group functions ya will understand, if they had built it with less reset they woulda had a machine pistol on their hands in short order after it got dirty, (we are talking battle dirty here not American Range dirty or Duty holster dirty) the XD was designed for extremally harsh duty, the Glock was not...


As far as feeling "cheap" ya mean the steel XD trigger feels cheaper than the molded plastic Glock trigger??

 

[Redhat]

Acenjay,

What's with the "cheap" comment about the XD trigger? Were you intending to insult XD owners?

 

[mpmarty]

GLOCK 23 GONE, GLOCK 21 GONE GLOCK 30 GONE

I would not consider carrying a Glock any longer. My XD45, Taurus PT145, Witness full size 10MM and soon my Taurus 24/7 .45 ACP OSS will do me just fine thank you. The trigger on the XD is so much easier to use than the Glocks that I have to agree, it almost feels like a nice 1911 once the slack is taken up.

 

[tango3065]

I have shot both and own a Glock 19, XD striker is fully cocked when racked where the Glock is partially cocked till the trigger is pulled. The Glock trigger is a modern marvel IMO, the pull weight and feel can be changed with springs that costs less than 3 bucks (I have a 12lb) , You can't even order parts for a XD which a buddy of mine learned when his grip safety spring broke last week and he has to mail the whole gun in for a simple spring. The XD is a fine firearm but what ticks me is a product like Glock comes along with a true winner and every gun maker and his brother ends up trying to copy them. No flame intended, like I said the XD is a fine firearm just giving my honest and first hand experience with both.