Texas DPS Announces Two More States

[csmkersh]

DPS Reciprocity Page lists Indiana and Delaware have entered into reciprical agreements with Texas.

They're still draging their feet on NM, AL, OH and WV. Write AG Abbott and Gov Perry and give them a nudge.

 

[waterhouse]

good news. now if only they would approve my permit (we're at 106 days and counting) I could use it in all those states

 

[cpileri]

cool

So now, the only thing a florida permit will get you over the tx chl is Ohio, and the FL misses South Carolina.

If we could only pick up: Alabama, California, COnnecticut, HI, Illinois, Iowa, Kansas, Maine, MD, Massachussetts, Minnesota, NE, Nevada, New Hampshire,
New jersey, New Mexico, New York, (Ohio), oregon, Rhode Island, Washington state, West Virginia, and Wisconsin
we'd be golden!
C-

 

[cpileri]

Utah

So now, the only thing a florida permit will get you over the tx chl is Ohio, and the FL misses South Carolina.

If we could only pick up: Alabama, California, COnnecticut, HI, Illinois, Iowa, Kansas, Maine, MD, Massachussetts, Minnesota, NE, Nevada, New Hampshire,
New jersey, New Mexico, New York, (Ohio), oregon, Rhode Island, Washington state, West Virginia, and Wisconsin
we'd be golden!
C-

That mail order Utah permit will add:Alabama, New hampshire ( I think), Ohio, and Washington state to a TX CHL's allowable states, too.
C-

 

[Working Man]

Texas concealed handgun license holders will not be allowed to carry in Connecticut..... Texas Concealed Handgun Licenses holders may NOT carry concealed handguns in Iowa...... Texas Concealed Handgun Licenses are NOT recognized in New Mexico and Texas citizens with concealed handgun licenses may NOT legally carry concealed handguns in New Mexico.

So why the hell do we let them carry concealed in Texas!?!?!?

If it is not reciprocity between Texas and another state then it should not be allowed!

 

[El Tejon]

RE: Indiana-Texas agreement

A big thank you to all in THRland!

I worked long on this one, over four years, but finally Tejas DPS did the right thing.

Thank you to the Texans who worked with pro-gun organizations and got DPS to change its attitude. You saw a problem and you fixed it. You are a credit to all those living in anti-states who are getting things moving in a positive direction.

Thank you to all my fellow Hoosiers who allowed themselves to be urged on to write and call the Indiana Attorney General, NRA "A" rated Mr. Carter.

Thank you to all of those at TFL/THR who had to listen to my carping (O.K., O.K. whining) over the years about the attorneys at DPS doing their utmost to quash this agreement.

Thank you.

 

[RRTX]

The problem with NM will only be solved if they drop their issue age to 21.

 

[DarthBubba]

Oh goodie

Oh Goodie my little sitter lives in DE and now I can visit her without cause for paranoia about being unarmed.

DarthBubba

 

[csmkersh]

Actually, El Tejon, what we did was take reciprocity agreements out of DPS' hands and make it the AG's job. AG Greg Abbott is pro-RKBA while DPS has been historically anti at the "leadership" level.

As to the one-way recognitions, Working Man, Gov Perry's proclamations give the appearance of doing something.

I got a New Hampshire non-res license to pick up Alabama. I'm hoping that before renewal is due for the NH license, Texas will have reciprocity with AL.

 

[stevelyn]

All of you and your permits are welcome up here in the frozen north.
Don't have one? Don't worry. You're welcome to carry here too.

 

[El Tejon]

cs, you are absolutely correct. It's only 4:00 pm and I already have phone fatigue!

 

[WvaBill]

I doubt that TX is dragging their feet with WV. :banghead:

Oh well, with my NH permit, I have 26 states.

 

[Aguila Blanca]

So now, the only thing a florida permit will get you over the tx chl is Ohio, and the FL misses South Carolina.

If we could only pick up: Alabama, California, COnnecticut, HI, Illinois, Iowa, Kansas, Maine, MD, Massachussetts, Minnesota, NE, Nevada, New Hampshire,
New jersey, New Mexico, New York, (Ohio), oregon, Rhode Island, Washington state, West Virginia, and Wisconsin
we'd be golden!
C-

Good luck. Connecticut doesn't have reciprocity with anyone and doesn't recognize anyone. I have to have a CT permit to carry when I visit my brother.

 

[LawDog]

Texas recognizes and allows New Mexico citizens to carry in Texas using New Mexico permits as of December 29, 2004. The problem is that New Mexico doesn't recognize Texas permits in New mexico.

That isn't something that can be cleared up in Texas, y'all are going to have to take it up with New Mexico. And Connecticut, Iowa and Nevada.

Yes, children, if you have a CCW in New Mexico, Connecticut, Iowa or Nevada, you can come to Texas and carry a concealed pistol with your home state permit. However, if a Texan goes to New Mexico, Connecticut, Iowa or Nevada and tries to carry a concealed pistol with a Texas permit, we violate state law.

From the DPS reciprocity page:
http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/administration/crime_records/chl/reciprocity.htm

Texas Establishes Concealed Handgun License Agreements
With Other States

November 2, 2005 Indiana
November 1, 2005 Delaware
September 26, 2005 Alaska
September 6, 2005 South Dakota (See note below)
September 6, 2005 Missouri (See note below)
September 1, 2005 Virginia
September 1, 2005 Michigan (See note below)
May 4, 2005 Connecticut Unilateral Proclamation (see note below)
April 14, 2005 Iowa Unilateral Proclamation (see note below)
March 24, 2005 Nevada Unilateral Proclamation (see note below)
February 28, 2005 Pennsylvania
February 25, 2005 South Carolina
February 4, 2005 North Dakota
December 29, 2004 Colorado
December 29, 2004 New Mexico Unilateral Proclamation (see note below)
November 29, 2004 Montana
November 22, 2004 Georgia
September 7, 2004 Mississippi
September 3, 2004 Utah
August 9, 2004 Idaho
April 19, 2004 North Carolina
July 25, 2002 Wyoming
August 30, 2000 Kentucky
August 30, 2000 Tennessee
August 28, 2000 Florida
September 15, 1999 Arizona
August 31, 1998 Louisiana
July 24, 1998 Oklahoma
February 19, 1998 Arkansas

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Texas Establishes Concealed Handgun License Unilateral Proclamation With Other States

September 6, 2005 South Dakota
Note: Effective immediately, Governor Perry has issued a proclamation that allows persons with concealed handgun licenses from South Dakota to legally carry in Texas. South Dakota residents will be required to follow Texas law while carrying in this state. This has the effect of reciprocity between Texas and South Dakota since South Dakota law recognizes valid licenses issued from other states including Texas.


September 6, 2005 Missouri
Note: Effective immediately, Governor Perry has issued a proclamation that allows persons with concealed handgun licenses from Missouri to legally carry in Texas. Missouri residents will be required to follow Texas law while carrying in this state. This has the effect of reciprocity between Texas and Missouri since Missouri law recognizes valid licenses issued from other states including Texas.
NOTE: MISSOURI "PERMIT" IS ACTUALLY A REGULAR MISSOURI DRIVER'S LICENSE OR NONDRIVER'S LICENSE ISSUED WITH A "CONCEALED CARRY ENDORSEMENT" ON THE FACE OF THE LICENSE. THE ENDORSEMENT APPEARS IN RED LETTERS ABOVE THE LICENSE PHOTO AND READS, "CCW UNTIL (EXPIRATION DATE OF ENDORSEMENT)."


September 1, 2005 Michigan
Note: In accordance with Mich. Comp. Laws § 28.432a(f), the State of Michigan may honor valid out-of-state permits held only by residents of a reciprocal state. Therefore, Texas concealed handgun licenses issued to non-resident Texans under V.T.C.A. Government Code § 411.173 are not eligible for reciprocal recognition under this Agreement.

May 4, 2005 Connecticut
Note: Effective immediately, Governor Perry has issued a proclamation that allows persons with permanent (plastic) concealed handgun licenses from Connecticut to legally carry in Texas. Connecticut permanent license holders will be required to follow texas law while carrying in this state. Temporary (paper) Connecticut concealed handgun licenses are not recognized under this proclamation. This proclamation is unilateral and is not a reciprocal agreement. [highlight]Texas concealed handgun license holders will not be allowed to carry in Connecticut. [/highlight]

April 14, 2005 Iowa
Note: Texas Governor Rick Perry signed a unilateral proclamation recognizing Iowa Concealed Handgun Licenses on April 14, 2005 allowing citizens with concealed handgun licenses issued by Iowa to legally carry concealed handguns in Texas. This is not a reciprocal agreement, therefore, [highlight]Texas Concealed Handgun Licenses holders may NOT carry concealed handguns in Iowa.[/highlight]

March 24, 2005 Nevada
Note: Texas Governor Rick Perry signed a unilateral proclamation recognizing Nevada Concealed Handgun Licenses on March 24, 2005 allowing citizens with concealed handgun licenses issued by Nevada to legally carry concealed handguns in Texas. This is not a reciprocal agreement, therefore, [highlight]Texas Concealed Handgun Licenses holders may NOT carry concealed handguns in Nevada[/highlight].

December 29, 2004 New Mexico
Note: Texas Governor Rick Perry signed a unilateral proclamation on December 29, 2004 allowing citizens with concealed handgun licenses issued by New Mexico to legally carry concealed handguns in Texas. This is not a reciprocal agreement, therefore, Texas Concealed Handgun Licenses are NOT recognized in New Mexico and [highlight]Texas citizens with concealed handgun licenses may NOT legally carry concealed handguns in New Mexico[/highlight]. This is the first "unilateral" proclamation issued by Texas.

LawDog

 

[Texas9]

Yee and Haw

GREAT!! This is good stuff. Perry (TX Governor) is banging out rec. agreements left and right!!! I love it.

BTW, csmkersh, nice to know there's some more of us in San Antonio.

 

[TexasRifleman]

WorkingMan: It's that whole "Do unto others" thing.

Being nice to them leaves them less excuse not to do the same.

I'd be happy to see Texas honor all 50 states in some form or another, makes it easier to get that reciprocity someday.

I think I will let my Florida non-res permit expire next year. Don't see any reason to keep it at this point.

Connecticut is indeed a pain in the rear. I travel there for work regularly so I got a non-resident. It was easy, but all that for just one state is annoying.

 

[waterhouse]

It's that whole "Do unto others" thing.

this is the same thing my concealed permit instructor said. Apparently we gave control to the AG and one of his big strategies for reciprocity was to pretty much allow any other state to carry here and then hit them up later for the return favor.

I don't know how true this is, but whoever is in charge seems to be doing pretty good work.

 

[Tom C.]

U.S. Constitution
Article. IV.
Section. 1.
Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State. And the Congress may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records and Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof.

I guess I don't know why any document from any state isn't good in every state, as with driver's licence, birth certificate, etc. Where am I going wrong?

 

[wdlsguy]

That mail order Utah permit will add:Alabama, New hampshire ( I think), Ohio, and Washington state to a TX CHL's allowable states, too.
C-

Alabama, Minnesota, Ohio and Washington.

http://www.packing.org/license_tool

 

[Krenn]

If i understand things correctly, in certain parts of california, CCW is basically impossible to get, but if you DO have it, you can go almost anywhere. why hasn't someone filed full faith and credence lawsuits to force california to recgonize other permits?

 

[csmkersh]

That mail order Utah permit will add:Alabama, New hampshire ( I think), Ohio, and Washington state to a TX CHL's allowable states, too.
C-

No, the non-resident Utah permit isn't valid in New Hampshire. They recognize only resident permits from Utah. Getting NH non-res takes 2 weeks, $20US and a zerox copy of your home State's license. BTDT.

 

[MrMex]

No, the non-resident Utah permit isn't valid in New Hampshire. They recognize only resident permits from Utah. Getting NH non-res takes 2 weeks, $20US and a zerox copy of your home State's license. BTDT.

Are you saying that people can legally be issued liscences for more than one state? That doesn't seem right to me unless you can be a resident of 2 or more states at the same time. Compared to establishing residency for college tuition.

BTW, another San Antonion here .

 

[CleverNickname]

Are you saying that people can legally be issued liscences for more than one state? That doesn't seem right to me unless you can be a resident of 2 or more states at the same time. Compared to establishing residency for college tuition.

Who said you had to be a a resident of a state to get a CCW license from that state? A lot of states will issue to people out-of-state.

 

[wdlsguy]

A lot of states will issue to people out-of-state.

http://www.packing.org/state/report_nonres.php

 

[csmkersh]

Are you saying that people can legally be issued liscences for more than one state? That doesn't seem right to me unless you can be a resident of 2 or more states at the same time. Compared to establishing residency for college tuition.

BTW, another San Antonion here .

Verdad, mis amigo. But not all states issue non-resident licenses. New Hampshire does but you must have a CHL in your home state first. Florida, Pennsylvania are but two states that issue non-res licenses but do not require you have one in your home state. Texas issues them also, and at one time only on condition that your home state didn't issue CHLs thereby making reciprocity unavailable.