Texas DPS Announces Two More States

[TexasRifleman]

Verdad, mis amigo. But not all states issue non-resident licenses. New Hampshire does but you must have a CHL in your home state first. Florida, Pennsylvania are but two states that issue non-res licenses but do not require you have one in your home state. Texas issues them also, and at one time only on condition that your home state didn't issue CHLs thereby making reciprocity unavailable.

Connecticut will also issue a non-resident without requiring you to have on in your own state, since they don't do reciprocity with ANYONE.

 

[beaucoup ammo]

Indiana Has "Honored" Texas CHL

This is full Reciprocity? Great! We can drive from here to Virginia..or Michigun..or Montana without going out of our way!

New Mexico should get on the stick! I love that state and may not feel like driving way north from SA and hitting that "sliver" into Colorado.

Take Care

 

[csmkersh]

New Mexico should get on the stick! I love that state and may not feel like driving way north from SA and hitting that "sliver" into Colorado.

Take Care

Why don't you do as I've done for years? Switch to open carry at the New Mexico tourist station.

 

[beaucoup ammo]

I'll Read Up On State Laws More!

All I see is a glaring "RED" state (on Reciprocity Map)...and am not familiar with their way of conducting things. I'll indeed do that next time!

Thanks...

 

[csmkersh]

All I see is a glaring "RED" state (on Reciprocity Map)...and am not familiar with their way of conducting things. I'll indeed do that next time!

Thanks...

FYI, while both NM and AZ now have legal concealed carry, they retained their unlicensed open carry laws.

 

[El Tejon]

beaucoup ammo, not exactly, you have it inverted--Texas now honors Indiana. Indiana has always honored licenses to carry handguns from Texas as well as all other states and all other foreign countries. Indiana Code 35-47-2-21.

The "reciprocity" agreement just means that Texas finally recongizes Indiana licenses.

 

[csmkersh]

El Tejon has it correct. Gov Perry issued a proclamation announcing Texas would honor Inidana. That state already recognized Texas' CHL.

Texas and Delaware, OTOH, have entered into a formal agreement.

 

[NickEllis]

I sure hope these "unilateral declarations" of reciprocity will get things rolling with states that don't recognize us yet.

 

[beaucoup ammo]

I Appreciate The Info

I was operating under a misconception for sure! Time to get out the map and plan a trip!

Can't beat the power of information!

Take Care

 

[MrMex]

Great info indeed, I knew of and have always taken advantages of loopholes. These are definately beneficial and did not know they existed.

I can't belive NM has open carry but won't honor our CHL, odd.

Thanks guys

 

[Live Free Or Die]

Rather than starting a new thread, I'll just ask this here since the topic has veered in this direction anyway:

As a resident of a state that for all intents and purposes does not issue permits, what do you all suggest is the best course of action for getting non-resident permit(s) valid in the maximum number of states? It might sound like a funny request; i.e., why do I seek the maximum number, unless I actually plan on travelling to all 50 states in the near future? Well, I just want to know, that's all. I like to keep my options open.

So from which state do you all think it would be easiest to secure a non-resident permit, one which will hopefully offer reciprocity benefits for the maximum number of other states?

 

[cnemikeman]

Probably Florida.

 

[csmkersh]

Or Texas.

 

[Live Free Or Die]

Thanks for the suggestions, guys. I'm reading up about those two on packing.org as we speak.

 

[csmkersh]

IIRC, Florida's CHL is $117 for 4 years and Texas is $140 unless you're over age 65, then it's $75.

 

[beaucoup ammo]

I Recall During Texas CHL Class...

we had the option of purchasing a Florida/Texas Combo that allowed carry in more states than just the one's Texas reciprocity agreements allowed.

If I remember correctly, it was an extra $50.

Take Care

 

[csmkersh]

Never heard of that. I'll ask a friend who just finished taking his CHL instructor's renewal course.

 

[csmkersh]

I talked with my instructor friend and he's never heard of such a combo licesne in any of the six sessions he's had to attend. I've read Texas Government Code §411.171, 172 and 173 often and there's nothing there either. I suspect beaucoup misunderstood somethin is all.

 

[cxm]

Alabama

It is unlikely Alabama will ever be granted reciprocical status with Texas.

The problem is the fact that Alabama does not have central issue or control of licenses. Alabama licenses are issued by the county sheriff, and the requirements are not uniform, some sheriffs require NCIS background checks...some don't.

As a result they don't meet the Texas standard for recognition.

Similarly, West Virginia is issued by the Sheriff and does not meet the backgrouind check requirement...so.

FWIW

Chuck

DPS Reciprocity Page lists Indiana and Delaware have entered into reciprical agreements with Texas.

They're still draging their feet on NM, AL, OH and WV. Write AG Abbott and Gov Perry and give them a nudge.

 

[Sam Adams]

It is unlikely Alabama will ever be granted reciprocical status with Texas.

So? Get a NH license for $20 and you have reciprocity with AL (and, of course, NH) for 4 years. I'm doing this right as we speak, after talking with a NH friend of mine. Go to Packing.org and download the .pdf for the NH application.

 

[beaucoup ammo]

Csmkersh

Yea, I must have heard wrong or got dated Intel..however, I do recall having the option of getting a license that had to do with a Florida agreement of some kind.

I checked the addy below, but it's not really anything new. Maybe I was just day dreaming..thinking I'd rather be at the range than in class!!

http://www.lonestarhandgun.com/FrameSA.htm

Take Care

 

[csmkersh]

It is unlikely Alabama will ever be granted reciprocal status with Texas.

The problem is the fact that Alabama does not have central issue or control of licenses. Alabama licenses are issued by the county sheriff, and the requirements are not uniform, some sheriffs require NCIS background checks...some don't.

As a result they don't meet the Texas standard for recognition.

Similarly, West Virginia is issued by the Sheriff and does not meet the background check requirement...so.

FWIW

Chuck

Texas law doesn't actually require the other state to run a NICS background check. Here's the actual law:

§411.173(b) & (c)

(b) The governor shall negotiate an agreement with any other
state that provides for the issuance of a license to carry a
concealed handgun under which a license issued by the other state is
recognized in this state or shall issue a proclamation that a
license issued by the other state is recognized in this state if the
attorney general of the State of Texas determines that a background
check of each applicant for a license issued by that state is
conducted by state or local authorities or an agent of the state or
local authorities before the license is issued to determine the
applicants' eligibility to possess a firearm under federal law.
(c) The attorney general of the State of Texas shall
annually:
(1) submit a report to the governor, lieutenant
governor, and speaker of the house of representatives listing the
states the attorney general has determined qualify for recognition
under Subsection (b); and
(2) review the statutes of states that the attorney
general has determined do not qualify for recognition under
Subsection (b) to determine the changes to their statutes that are
necessary to qualify for recognition under that subsection.

Simply, it boils do to does the other state check enough to verify that the applicant may own/possess a handgun. If so, then reciprocity is possible. As to each county/parish sheriff's issuing the license, Texas already has agreements with at least 2 states that do it that way.

cxm is correct that is the way DPS operated and the AG did also until a number of us explained to the Governor the error in logic.