The 270 has to be worthless!

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Speaking to odd rounds, a company called Liberty is selling a 50 grain 9mm round that is being hyped on a recent "weapons world" email as a 2000FPS round, and upon further research it really does exist, and on UTUBE seems to be very effective for SD. I ordered 2 boxes. They also had actual 9mm in stock from another "Swiss" ammo manufacturer.
 
"The yahoo answer link was just a few people throwing around opinions. There wasn't really anything scientific about it. "

And this thread is more scientific??
 
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At my Wally it is 7mm. I have gone back to guns three or four times in last several months and the 7mm shelves are full with nothing else in stock. Embarrassing for 7mm shooters!
 
mdauben said:
Yes, but you could say the same about the .308, the .30-06, and probably even the 7mm and .300 mags. Is just down to numbers. There are probably at least 100 deer shot in the US for every 1 elk.


Personally, I prefer it over many of the other choices in the same class, but I will freely admit I'm "old school". I don't think the .270 is going to die any time soon, but its probably already passed its hey day and been eclipsed as a hunting round by newer, more trendy cartridges like like the short and super-short magnums.
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Yep. I agree with that. I think we are saying the same thing. It will be around for a long time but has probably passed its prime. I am certainly not knocking its capability. It is one fantastic cartridge.
 
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mdauben said:
Yes, but you could say the same about the .308, the .30-06, and probably even the 7mm and .300 mags. Is just down to numbers. There are probably at least 100 deer shot in the US for every 1 elk.


Personally, I prefer it over many of the other choices in the same class, but I will freely admit I'm "old school". I don't think the .270 is going to die any time soon, but its probably already passed its hey day and been eclipsed as a hunting round by newer, more trendy cartridges like like the short and super-short magnums.
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Yep. I agree with that. I think we are saying the same thing. It will be around for a long time but has probably passed its prime. I am certainly not knocking its capability. It is one fantastic cartridge.

I belong to another site that is mostly folks from Texas. At 36 I am probably one of the older posters on the board. Every year in January we have a 'what did you shot your deer with' thread. I am always amazed at how many cartridges are used that were not even around 20 years ago. There is still plenty of 30-30 30-06 270 243, but probably not as much as there was just ten years ago. There is always a heck of a lot of .223 or 5.56. Of course, I shot mine with a 6.5swede, something a lot of them know nothing about.
 
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I shot mine with a 6.5swede, something a lot of them know nothing about.
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The 6.5 MM is a well kept secrete. Mild shooting, extremely accurate. The perfect deer cartridge.

And classy. ;)
 
When I started this thread, I didn't want to start a debate over calibers. I just think its crazy that there is a shortage on every caliber of rifle ammo in my neck of the woods and several other close states and then there is this pristine beautiful box of 270 every where I go. I just wanted to know why this caliber sucks so much. This isn't my opinion, I'm just seeing whats on the shelf. In my state there isn't anything you can't kill with a 22lr. (two legged or four). Most cartriges I see everywhere are unavailible including the wildcats,but the 270 still remains everywhere I go.
 
It doesn't suck. It's a hunting cartridge. The current rush is mostly centered around non-hunters. The past few years have seen a huge increase in the number of NICS checks (which correlates to gun sales) but there has not been a proportional increase in hunting licenses. Most new gun buyers are going for self defense, training, and "just in case" guns.

Many hunters buy ammo around deer season, which usually means around november. So they bought their box before the latest scare. They also shoot mainly to hunt and some can stretch a box of ammo across many years. That means .270 owners are less likely to have even noticed a shortage of ammo.
 
I hadn't thought about the hunting season aspect of it, but you're right. Right before Christmas I scored the last box of 150gr Federal Walmart had in .270. Now they have both 130 and 150 gr loads from more than 1 MFR.

I ended up selling that box and two others shortly thereafter when I decided to sight in for 130gr loads and stay there. The guy I sold it to said he couldn't find it anywhere.
 
there's several rounds in the immediate vicinity that do a better job: .280 Rem
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Yep. That extra 0.007" of bullet diameter on the same parent case really makes all the difference! :banghead:

It doesn't suck. It's a hunting cartridge. The current rush is mostly centered around non-hunters.
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^^^This. Nobody makes a .270 Win that accepts 20 or 30 round magazines.
 
Who says it would be for hunting deer?
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As noted earlier, the .270win is primarily a hunting cartridge. Anything larger than deer and the 30-06 is a better choice. For "tactical" use, there are several cartridges that are better choices which is probably why the .270 isn't used. If I were going to build a tactical rifle for that length cartridge, I would do 30-06.

The .270 for tactical use is the 6.8SPC which is designed for the AR-15 platform and has 30 round mags.

When other ammo is available, there probably isn't much use for the .270 other than for hunting deer. Deer season is a long way off so there it should be no surprise that there is .270win on the shelves. The same is true for any cartridge used predominately for hunting.
 
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Yeah, go back and check the author on post #60.

But...

1) There is a famous quote about the .270 as a coyote round.
2) In many areas, hunters of wild/feral pigs prefer higher capacity magazines.
3) The very fact that you (or most people) wouldn't do a thing is incentive for others to do it.
 
Ed Ames said:
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Yeah, go back and check the author on post #60.

But...

1) There is a famous quote about the .270 as a coyote round.
2) In many areas, hunters of wild/feral pigs prefer higher capacity magazines.
3) The very fact that you (or most people) wouldn't do a thing is incentive for others to do it.
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Oops. Somehow I totally missed #60 :eek:

And yes, it is a good coyote round. but so are other that are more popular. And I intend to use my 6.8 for pig (higher cap mag and all that)

On a side note, it is interesting that both the .270win and 6.8 SPC are based on obsolete parent cartridges. (30-03 and .30 Remingion).

I've been toying with the idea of necking the 6.8 back up to .308 (.30 Rem SPC?) just because no one else has, but I can't see any real benefit.
 
Coupler of things to think about.

A number of countries around the world have limitations on civilians owning firearms chambered for 'military' cartridges. Who knows, that might be the focus the next time Feinstein gets on her broom. The 270 Winchester is not and never been a military caliber.

Second groups trying to 'right size' military cartridges after both World Wars proposed cartridges close to the 270 Winchester. The 276 Peterson (between the world wars, originally planned for the Garand rifle) and the 280 British cartridge (shortly after WW2) both were sized to propel a 140 grain bullet at 2450 fps or so. Those ballistics are well within the capablity of the 270 Winchester.

Maybe we just need to re-name it something fancy, like the 6.8 OC (O'Conner).
 
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