The Beretta 92Fs/M9 thread.

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el Godfather

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Dear THR:

I have had a few Beretta pistols and I have no complaints to this date. In fact, I find Beretta to be a quality firearm. At the moment, I have 92FS Inox, M9, and Combat Combo among their handgun models, and soon I will be adding a Px4 in 40 cal.

Accuracy wise I have been quite impressed with the Combat Combo, and in the reliability department I have had zero mal-functions in past 20+ years. I do keep my guns properly cleaned and do take the needful care required. I believe that should be the case with any machinery you possess.

I would like the THR member to post pictures of some of their Beretta 92 variants and discuss their opinions.

Chiefly, I would like to know what you think of it in at least the following SIX areas below:
1. Accuracy:
a) Combat Accuracy up to to 25 yards, up to 50 yards.
b) Target shooting accuracy up to 50 yards with various models, especially, the Combat Combo and other models finely thereto if any.

2. Reliability:
a) If properly cleaned and maintained.
b) If only cleaned in 1000 rounds intervals (nothing more nothing less).

3. Durability:
a) Service life before any parts need changing.
b) Life of the barrel.
c) Strength of the slide with exposed to excessive use.

4. Ergonomics:
a) Grip angle.
b) The feel and fit.

5. Customization:
a) How much can customize it to our liking.
b) The availability of the after market accessories (kindly list some in case our fellow members would like some).

6. Aesthetics, Craftsmanship and Collection value.

Thanks
 
Accuracy above average, very reliable; mine has an action job and some Esmeralda grips. That is about all it needs. I have no idea how long before it breaks, but it points naturally for me, and never jams. What more could I ask of a 9mm defensive handgun?
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At the moment I have a 92fs Inox, 92fs Vertec Inox, 92fs Competition combo and a 92fs Combat combo.

Just bought a new 92fs Steel I and a new 92fs Competition as I plan on selling the one I have now and keeping the new one.

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First off I will exclude the Combat and refer to the slide mounted safety and DA/SA models.
Accuracy is on par for a service type handgun at 25 yards, 50 yards is useable but others do it much better. Target shooting, there are much better handguns.
Reliability is good, I can't think of the last time I had a jam or issue with any of them.
Parts breakage, none yet in any of them.
Ergonomics, I like the fatter grip, fits me well. I also like the Vertec style grip. What I don't like is the slide mounted safety.
Trigger is average, shorter travel and reset would be nice.
Aesthetics, Craftsmanship and Collection value are all very high, they are well made and finished as good as any other handgun.

Now the Combat is a different beast and IMO what a Beretta should be with its frame mounted safety.
The accuracy is very good and the SAO trigger is excellent, almost on par with my Sig X5. The controls (i.e frame mounted safety) are much more user friendly and comfortable to use.
 
As to 5, this looks interesting:

http://www.trgear.com/osc/eshop/product_info.php/products_id/211

An easy on, easy off rail.

A number of bbl makers have match bbls out to 6", & there are a few of Beretta's 7.25" ones running around. A couple of gunsmiths have reverse engineered Beretta's barrel bushing, & can install one on a chosen bbl & slide - if one searches, there's a rather obvious place where such information resides.

The CAA Roni is available in pistol & carbine form, but given the lack of 16" 92 bbls, you'll have to SBR a 92 to stock one.
 
Good grief OP are you writing a book!?!
I have an M9, one of the first to come on the open market that wasn't a comemorative, it is a contract over run.
It runs just fine, the accuracy is acceptable, hasn't broke any parts, I wish they came with factory installed tritium vials in the front and rear sights, spare magazines are inexpensive and abundent.
It IS NOT my first choice in a combat 9mm but, like the 1911 the guns still do quite well.
 
Hmmm now that you mention it, its not a bad idea to write something about it. :)

I ask the questions because I really like M9 except the frame safety. It sort of gets in the way of racking the slide.
 
If Beretta dropped the idea that a DA/SA auto needs a safety, and that the decocker/safety needs to be mounted on the slide, then I'd like their lineup a lot more.

Until Beretta does that, I'd much rather have a Sig :)

That said, I've never had a real problem with the 92/M9s that I've handled or shot (besides the decocker/safety), the grips are a bit on the large side for a small handed guy like me but I can work with it. Like others I don't consider them to be the best service/combat pistols on the market but they are certainly capable of doing the job.
 
The Taurus is still available with frame mounted safety.

So is the original 92... :)

The first year 92's had frame mounted safeties. It wasn't until they went after military contracts that it was moved to the slide.
 
Why they went for slide safety to get military contract?? I mean why military prefers it on the slide?
 
Why they went for slide safety to get military contract?? I mean why military prefers it on the slide?

I dont know what country the change was requested for.. However, just a wild guess from left field: Because S&W dominated with the same safety setup.. It was already in use by our LEO and military (Seals).



This is probably the reason the safety doesnt bother me at all.. I "cut my teeth" on 1st gen Smith's so the setup isnt alien to me.
 
Why they went for slide safety to get military contract?? I mean why military prefers it on the slide?

It allows the gun to be loaded and unloaded with the safety on and also give it a 100% safe true decocking ability.
 
Yes very uncommon. I have not seen one around. I will most probably place it on 'to-import' list.
 
It is recommended to chnage the recoil spring every 3-5k. I personally prefer around 3500-3750. It is noticably shorter at that point. Changing this more often will make the locking block last longer.

Trigger return spring - change every 5k. However, to simplify things - I change mine when I change the recoil spring.

Locking block - recommended to change every 20k. However, I routinely see reports of breakage just past the 20k mark. I'd recommend changing it every 15k. Last time I looked, Beretta USA had the kits forsale at 1/2 price... So, not expensive.

I keep other springs and parts on hand, but just for emergencies...

I've read reports of 2" groups or less at 25 yards. Not bad for a service pistol...

I personally prefer the standard 92FS - the 1 handed balance is my favorite over all the railed models...

Here are mine:

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Mine was a total impulse purchase. I was browsing around Cabela's, saw this used 92FS for a decent deal and scooped it up. I love it. It's all stock, but I would like to install the D hammer spring, maybe some VZ grips to dress it up.

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Ive only owned this one for a short time but its quickly becoming my favorite handgun.
Everything I love about the FS only smaller in every way. Type M
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SharpDressedMan
I do not live in the US. Sufficient to say where One can legally own automatic weapons- thanks God for that! Therefore, although very expensive but Glock 18 can be had as well as many other goodies.

Stylish! Is it possible that Beretta 92 is perhaps the most handsome pistol?
 
Godfather, if you like unnecessary switches & buttons, & exposed trigger bits, sure. We're basically talking about a long slide high capacity magazine P-38. It works.
 
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