The Citizen's Machine Gun

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For additional firepower to the Citizen's Rifle, A machine gun can be issued alongside to Armed Civillians/Police but STRICTLY to higher ranking members and ONLY during a war. As there may be laws such as the "Assault Weapon" ban, It may have a permanent magazine and fed by stripper clips as Magazine/Belt fed weapons would be classed as Military Firearms.

The layout of this Machine Gun may be similar to the Citizens Rifle but with a Bipod, Heavier Barrel, Permanent Magazine/Stripper feed and 3 round burst only for legal reasons.

Out of all weapons, The Citizen's Machine Gun may be based on:

Cei-Rigotti auto rifle
Farquhar Hill auto rifle
Type 11 light machine gun
Federov Avtomat
Breda Model 30
Chauchat
Hotchkiss 1909
Charlton automatic rifle
M1918 BAR
Madsen
 
A machine gun can be issued alongside to Armed Civillians/Police but STRICTLY to higher ranking members and ONLY during a war. As there may be laws such as the "Assault Weapon" ban, It may have a permanent magazine and fed by stripper clips as Magazine/Belt fed weapons would be classed as Military Firearms.
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Uhh, if these "assault weapon" bans you speak of in place what on God's Green Earth makes you think they will be handing out machineguns :)

If they don't trust us with removable magazines they are not likely to trust us with 3 round burst :)
 
I still dont understand these threads...

A machine gun can be issued alongside to Armed Civillians/Police but STRICTLY to higher ranking members
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Rank has nothing to do with machine gun deployment, frankly, no officer or REMF wants to haul a MG around.

It may have a permanent magazine and fed by stripper clips as Magazine/Belt fed weapons would be classed as Military Firearms.
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A machinegun fed by stripper clips is pointless.

post-apocalyptic legal restrictions?

What color is the sky in your world?

Out of all weapons, The Citizen's Machine Gun may be based on:

Cei-Rigotti auto rifle
Farquhar Hill auto rifle
Type 11 light machine gun
Federov Avtomat
Breda Model 30
Chauchat
Hotchkiss 1909
Charlton automatic rifle
M1918 BAR
Madsen
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You're clearly not an engineer... or a soldier; however you do show promise as a writer of B movies. :)
 
The Romanian G AKs you see floating around were kinda under this premise. They were semi-auto, but in case of war, were set up so auto-sears could be quickly handed out to the militiamen and installed when they were called up for combat.

Having a completely different weapon system is foolish, unless they're highly interchangeable like a HBAR select-fire FAL or a RPK.
 
...and 3 round burst only for legal reasons.
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What legal reasons are you talking about?

According to the BATFE 3 round burst = Full Auto (at least as far as legal definitions go).

Count me confused too.
 
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Rank has nothing to do with machine gun deployment, frankly, no officer or REMF wants to haul a MG around.
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As far as I can say from my experience as a REMF (MEDLOGs, CSH, etc), this is totally not the case. Oh, I'm sure there's plenty of folks who felt that way, but those of us who always had to pull the guard duties, and the quick response force, perimiter defense, whatever fancy words they wanted to use to make us feel better...well, we always wanted better gear. Also, a lot more time training, both for gear and tactics.
Especially these days, when there isn't exactly a 'front' to be behind. Sure, we'd normally have a unit of MPs or Infantry for that, but not always. And when it's your job to defens a hospital and all you have is a beat to hell M-16A2 and maybe 4 full mags of ammo, well, any old belt fed starts to look mighty beautiful. So do grenades. And optics become awe inspiring devices. And NVGs beyond gen 1.


Course, I dunno what folks in those units are getting now, this was all field stuff/JRTC circa 2001 or 2002.
 
My MG comments about REMF's and officers was posted with GPMG aka heavy belt fed weapons in mind...

This "citizens" scenario is so far from reality it makes my head hurt a bit...
 
While I am flattered that my idea for a subversive military weapon to "fly under the radar" of weapons bans has caught on, the idea of a separate "Citizen's Machine Gun" from the "Citizen's Rifle" is silly.
The Citizen's Rifle is a modular weapons system, capable of being converted, at the very least, into an LMG.
The Lynx could do a good imitation of the M14, both as a rifle and LMG with larger magazines and a heavier barrel.
The newer CR is even more flexible, being an COMPLETELY modular system, with exchangeable magwells, belt-feed mechanisms (similar to the HK21), barrels, actions (Bolt, semi-auto, fully auto close bolt, fully auto open bolt, blowback), furniture, etc.
I haven't drawn up full plans for the newer rifle, but the action is essentially a heavily modified MAS-36, as I found that action to be the simplest to work around as well as the most promising for the other converted modes.
 
Generally, the higher the rank, the smaller and lighter the firearm they carry.
I used to know E6's who would draw M9's when we went into the field just so they wouldn't have to clean an M-16 when we got back.

The MG just doesn't lend itself to this concept.
 
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