The Cost of Exercising Your Constitutional Rights

[Steel Horse Rider]

I don't understand how the "unlawful possession of a handgun" came about in this discussion. In Colorado I can strap on any handgun as long as it is visible without any paperwork. Putting a coat or shirt over the holster or gun makes you a criminal for "concealed carry without a permit" but my understanding here is that it is merely a misdemeanor. The idea that putting on a coat or jacket makes you a criminal for merely participating in your Constitutional right is not a sane one. Should you be prosecuted for writing an anonymous letter to the editor for "concealing" your First Amendment right?

 

[ljnowell]

You can take all the Illinois classes for 125 bucks if you shop around. 150 for permit makes 275. Still expensive but not 500 dollars.

 

[zorro45]

PA non res

I happened to be in a PA courthouse with a few hours to kill, so I went down to the basement. The Sheriff had a sign "permits, $20 money order, estimated wait time 10-15 minutes. Next office over was a nice lady who made some photocopies of my out-of-state permits, went to a bodega for a money order, and then upon return, after a short wait,I had a new shiny PA permit. Yes, Constitutional Carry would be better, but this is pretty good.

 

[OilyPablo]

Open carry free but heavy with nasty liberal scorn here. CPL renewal is ~$60 every 5 years if memory serves.

 

[crazysquirrel]

Missouri has been talking about doing away with their permit altogether like Kansas did. So if I go through the "process" and buy a permit and then they repeal it - do I get my money back? I'm betting not. For the time being I am just going to sit here and watch.

About Kansas and no CC permit needed -

You can still get a CC permit if desired. It serves 2 purposes -

1) In states that reciprocate CC permits, you can carry in those states.
2) In the unfortunate event you use a gun, you have a little less paperwork to do. And decreases the chances of you being charged with a gun crime.

I think there are 5 constitutional carry states, but I could be wrong.

No you do not get any refund. That would go against the government wanting your money!

I personally would keep the CC permit if I went through the trouble. Sorta of a backup plan if I wanted to travel.

The ATF is supposed to be a convenient store....

I hope you go constitutional carry.

Additionally: I read the Kansas law on CC.

I did not read anywhere that you must be a Kansas resident to exercise the right to CC. But the media still states for 'Kansas residents'.

Section 75-7c17 et al.

Hmm it lost my edit....

No you do not get any refund.

 

[rrruuunnn]

When I got pulled over with my CHL.

The state trooper asked me why I carry a gun in a sarcastic tone and walked away before I could answer.

I own 8 restaurants and we've been robbed and mugged and burglarized. My twin was murdered. I got death threats by his killers. BTW I am not black, so it wasn't a racial thing. Someone broke into our house when my mother was there. Maybe, the cop needs to get out more. It is a dangerous world.

I met a veteran that had a more dangerous job. He would have gotten a permit in Britain. But California didn't want to grant him one. The cops want to feel special.

 

[AZ Desertrat]

I guess we are spoiled in AZ...no need for a CCW license, open carry is legal...(not that I advocate that, unless you are a rancher or a REAL cowboy)...and pretty fast to get a CCW if you desire one.

 

[Capybara]

$200.00 for me to pay the county ($120.00 for DOJ BG check + $80.00 to the county), then I had to pay $125.00 for the class (courtesy of a friend who normally charges $200.00). Total cost for me to exercise my civil right in California, $325.00

 

[stonecutter2]

You didn't have to submit your fingerprints with your IL application. That's optional, and all it does is make you get into the faster/priority queue for approval.

I saved the money that fingerprinting cost and just waited. Getting fingerprinted to carry seemed too intrusive to me.

 

[BSA1]

Missouri has been talking about doing away with their permit altogether like Kansas did. So if I go through the "process" and buy a permit and then they repeal it - do I get my money back? I'm betting not. For the time being I am just going to sit here and watch.

Just to clarify State of Kansas Conceal Carry Law. Kansas has a two tier conceal carry law.

Kansas allows it’s residents to conceal carry handguns without a permit within State borders. The upside is it is free of government regulation and fees. The downside is it doesn’t allow for carry out of state.

Kansas also issues Conceal Carry Licenses to allow out-of-state carry. It is expensive and time consuming. Application fee is $132.50, requires fingerprinting and background check. Before submitting the application the resident must completed a 8 hour conceal carry class and a 25 round range test. Class fees range from $65.00 and up. The shooting portion is easy and I think required 15 hits (it’s been a while) on a large silhouette type target to pass. Renewal is easy and much cheaper.

So by the time you figure taking time for the class, ammo, class and registration fees it can easily cost $300.00. However it gives you the right to carry out-of state. Great when traveling to Oklahoma and Texas and worthless when in Maryland.

 

[BSA1]

About Kansas and no CC permit needed -

You can still get a CC permit if desired. It serves 2 purposes -

1) In states that reciprocate CC permits, you can carry in those states.

2) In the unfortunate event you use a gun, you have a little less paperwork to do. And decreases the chances of you being charged with a gun crime.

Please provide any documentation you have to support this statement.

Additionally: I read the Kansas law on CC.

I did not read anywhere that you must be a Kansas resident to exercise the right to CC.

I think this answers your question.

75-7c03. License to carry concealed firearm; issuance; form; display on demand of law enforcement officer; reciprocity.
(a) The attorney general shall issue licenses to carry concealed handguns to persons who comply with the application and training requirements of this act and who are not disqualified under the provisions of K.S.A. 2014 Supp. 75-7c04, and amendments thereto. Such licenses shall be valid throughout the state for a period of four years from the date of issuance. The availability of licenses to carry concealed handguns under this act shall not be construed to impose a general prohibition on the carrying of handguns without such license, whether carried openly or concealed, or loaded or unloaded.

75-7c04. License to carry a concealed firearm; qualifications; weapons safety and training course.
(a) The attorney general shall not issue a license pursuant to this act if the applicant:
(1) Is not a resident of the county where application for licensure is made or is not a resident of the state;
(2) is prohibited from shipping, transporting, possessing or receiving a firearm or ammunition under 18 U.S.C. 922(g) or (n), and amendments thereto, or K.S.A. 21-4204, prior to its repeal, or K.S.A. 2014 Supp. 21-6301(a)(10) through (a)(13) or K.S.A. 2014 Supp. 21-6304(a)(1) through (a)(3), and amendments thereto; or
(3) is less than 21 years of age.

Without researching the statute more basically you have to be able to meet the requirements for issuance on a conceal carry license in order to be able to carry without a permit.

 

[AnselHazen]

Cost of Open Carry in Maine - $0
Cost of Conceal Carry in Maine - $0
Knowing you live in Free America - PRICELESS

For the first time in over 100 years, after a hard fight, we do not need any permits for Concealed Carry. No fees, training, licenses, renewals, pictures, fingerprints, etc. Went into effect last October and contrary to the anti-gunners' statements, no issues, no blood on the streets. And most importantly, the friends I have that started carrying, went and VOLUNTARILY got training and want to do more.

But I feel for you guys in Occupied America.

In state $0. But the $35 permit process and the $80 class got me the plastic card which will allow reciprocity with other states that the constitutional carry does not offer. And I can keep my lips zipped if questioned by LEO. No CCP and you have to inform if you are carrying.

 

[CLP]

I prefer the Alabama way much better. Walk into your local sheriff's office, fill out a 1 page application, slap down $20 and (if you pass the quick background check)walk out with your pistol permit in hand. ETA, and NO fingerprints.

It varies by county in Alabama. In Jeff Co I pay $7.50 per year and can get it for 5yrs at a stretch. Also, didn't need to walk into any probate office. I printed out the applications, my wife filled out hers and me mine, sent a check for 75 bucks, and my wife and I had our licenses within 2 weeks.

 

[Midwest]

It should be mentioned that Kentucky's carry permit also allows you to carry other weapons besides firearms.

http://kentuckystatepolice.org/ccdw/ccdw_faq.html

What weapons are covered under the CCDW license?



"Any weapon from which a shot, readily capable of producing death or serious physical injury, may be discharged.
Any knife other than an ordinary pocket knife or hunting knife.
Billy, nightstick, or club.
Blackjack or slapjack.
Nunchaku karate sticks.
Shiriken or death star.
Artificial knuckles made from plastic, or other similar hard material."
.

 

[TanklessPro]

I prefer the Alabama way much better. Walk into your local sheriff's office, fill out a 1 page application, slap down $20 and (if you pass the quick background check)walk out with your pistol permit in hand. ETA, and NO fingerprints.

Also, If that bothers you too much you can pay $100 for 5 years.

 

[CLP]

Also, If that bothers you too much you can pay $100 for 5 years.

37.50 for five years in Jefferson County

 

[FaerieGodfather]

Well, I'm certainly glad that Kentucky law allows for some legal way to exercise your God-given right to carry nunchaku karate sticks.

 

[old lady new shooter]

$200.00 for me to pay the county ($120.00 for DOJ BG check + $80.00 to the county), then I had to pay $125.00 for the class (courtesy of a friend who normally charges $200.00). Total cost for me to exercise my civil right in California, $325.00

I didn't know Ventura County issues permits. Where would you rank them on the may issue - shall issue continuum?

 

[north east redneck]

Mass- ~$100 for Gun Safety Course
$100 for permit, payable to the town you reside in, good for six years.

Renewal is $100.

 

[Neo-Luddite]

Qualified LEOSA carry isn't a right, it's a privilege accorded some citizens by virtue of their current or former career. For those who fall under LEOSA and are actively employed in a qualifying job LEOSA privilege requires no special effort to exercise as your job credentials you. DOD has made the process rather tedious and expensive for retirees....and Illinois doesn't make things easier. The larger point I surely get---Illinois is a *very* expensive place to exercise your rights under the 2nd Amendment. I've had a PA permit for almost a decade---it renews for about $4.00/year.

 

[IL Guns]

For me it was $100 for the class and $150 to Illinois. I did not see any reason to have my fingerprints taken ($60) to exercise a Right so it took an extra two weeks to get my permit. $10 for ammo to qualify. $260 all day. They really do push the fingerprinting thing but I am not a criminal, I have never committed any criminal acts so I did not see why I would have to be fingerprinted to exercise my Rights.

 

[Kaeto]

Here in Mi the class runs $100 and $115 to the state. $100 for the license, and $15 for fingerprints taken electronically. Plus renewals are $115.

 

[jimmyraythomason]

didn't need to walk into any probate office. I printed out the applications, my wife filled out hers and me mine, sent a check for 75 bucks, and my wife and I had our licenses within 2 weeks.

That's how we normally do it but this year the application changed and the new form could not be down loaded and printed so I had to go to the sheriff's office. I was able to fill out the form for my wife without her being there.