My good friend hates them, he sold guns and is a marine, "carreer retired. He was selling them during the timeframe when they had the "qc" issue, and he told me every other gun was being returned. He finally stopped selling them, and even though that is behind us, he won't go near them, it left him with such a bad taste. He buys Taurus revolvers and swears they make a better gun or just as good. He never had a Taurus revolver come back. Go figure. I on the other hand haven't never has a problem with S&W and carried a 60 for 22 years. But also had an excellent lightweight scandium Taurus 38. That gun was so light it didn't feel real. They made it for 1 or 2 years back in the early 90's. I rcentlly traded it at a show to a dealer who was searching everyware for one for his wife, as he already ownde one for himself. Great little gun.He traded me a taurus slim in 40 for it and that had more stopping power and was as light and slimmer.Also held 7 instead of 5