Thumper
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Of course not. There are thousands out there , but none of them are Ruger.
The Dark Tower and Ruger
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Of course not. There are thousands out there , but none of them are Ruger.
The sad difference is that Fleming's books centered around the weapons for a large part. In kings books the weapons are just tools used by the characters and all the reader really needs to know is that they go *bang* and hopefully kill things.
Yes i like technical books too (clancy, dan brown, nance etc) but, i'm not reading King for the technical accuracy. I read him to get put into a place i would never have put myself otherwise and meybe get a little scared in the process. REally the only books that scared me spitless were IT, The Stand (in parts) and The Shinning. Of course i read them when i was a kid, but, i still lost a lot of sleep.
Feanaro
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Roland comes from another world, I know that.
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But I distinctly remember(Though I have distinctly remembered many things wrongly. Not even 30 and I'm senile already.
) that Eddie, Jake, and Susannah all come from "our world." The world with the Rose is the sort of central, "real" world, or so I remember. Though at different times, of course. And Jakes gets the .44 semi-auto, made by Ruger, from his world, which is ours. Clear as mud. It is implied that they come from our world. But not outright stated. In fact i believe that the characters have a discussion on this very idea in one of the books where they conclude that while their worlds are clearly similar they may in fact have been different. For example Susannah was either picked up in the 1960s OR from a world that closely resembled the 1960s of our world. So either they came from different versions of the real world OR Roland travelled through time as well as accross dimensions to pick up his companions.
I find that it is better to not think too much about Stephen Kings books or you end up going around in circles or not. The easiest explanation is that King doesnt know jack about guns. And i can accept that.
Listening to Song of Susannah right now.
I remember Roland's trip into the gunshop when he picked up more ammo for his revolvers.
He did pick up .45 Winchester.
Is that .45 ACP or .45 long Colt?
I imagine Roland's revolvers being .45LC.
Josh
I remember Roland's trip into the gunshop when he picked up more ammo for his revolvers.
He did pick up .45 Winchester.
Is that .45 ACP or .45 long Colt?
I imagine Roland's revolvers being .45LC.
Josh
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King is not real big on gun knowledge, he's also not real big on the 2nd ammendment and gun rights. He's spent a lot of time and money on anti gun causes. That is why I will no longer support him with a dime of my money. I buy his books used or yard sales. He lives about 60 miles from me in his gated house with his armed security guards but does'nt want me to have the right to protect myself. He and Rosie O'd on the same wavelength. It shames me to say I'm a native of the same state as him. Sad but true.
King is not real big on gun knowledge, he's also not real big on the 2nd ammendment and gun rights. He's spent a lot of time and money on anti gun causes. That is why I will no longer support him with a dime of my money. I buy his books used or yard sales. He lives about 60 miles from me in his gated house with his armed security guards but does'nt want me to have the right to protect myself. He and Rosie O'd on the same wavelength. It shames me to say I'm a native of the same state as him. Sad but true.
Wolfy
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In book seven the last in the series he makes a reference to Thermopylae.
Here is the thread I started on it.
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=103246
Here is the thread I started on it.
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=103246
A couple of years ago, he said something about the large number of guns being responsible for the big homocide numbers. I skipped the dark tower book that came out about that time. I read the most recent one and noticed that, at one point he talked kind of like one of us- compared the torpid unarmed mall crawlers to sheep.
Could be that he is largely indifferent to the subject. That would be a lot better than being one of those idiotic celebrity red brigade crusaders.
Could be that he is largely indifferent to the subject. That would be a lot better than being one of those idiotic celebrity red brigade crusaders.
What it comes down to, atbest he's middle of the road. The wife runs that house and she is rabidly anti-gun. So he, being the scared little boy you read about in so many of his books, does what she wants. She runs him like a pack of hounds on scent. Saw them both at an interview they did a couple years ago, it was almost embarrassing.But for whatever he spends a lot of time, money, and talk in support of left wing causes.
It used to be understood- back when there was a dominate mainstream culture, that artists, writers actors and such were nuts and wierdos- attributes that caused them to think " outside the box" and come up with innovations that entertain and enrich the culture. Nobody much cared what they thought about practical matters. People gave them quite a bit of space to be wierd, amoral and scofflaw because nobody with any sense would accept them as role models.
Kings wife is (or was before the money came), a social worker. Social workers are very much like artists, writers, and actors except that they do not think or create, they are artless, cannot write and do not act beyond simple hystrionics.
Kings wife is (or was before the money came), a social worker. Social workers are very much like artists, writers, and actors except that they do not think or create, they are artless, cannot write and do not act beyond simple hystrionics.
30 seconds with Google would have shown you that "King's Wife", Tabitha King has been a published novelist since the 1980s. She may well have been a social worker (might still be for all i know). But the fact that she is clearly a writer as well proves that people don't really fit into the neat little boxes that you have constructed for them.
As far as King being anti-gun i would still like to see a source for that claim.
You caught me. I got king's wife mixed up with the wife of Howard Stern. Neither Stephen King or Tabitha king appear on the NRA list of anti-gun celebrities
http://www.nraila.org/Issues/FactSheets/Read.aspx?ID=15
Kind DID make a statement as an answer in an interview a few years ago relating violent crime to the widespread ownership of guns. He didn't expand the premise but it sounded like the beginning of an anti-gun preachment.
In the latest Dark Tower Book, he did make a statement about the Unarmed, un-alert, and sheep-like. This sounded like the beginning of a Pro- Gun preachement.
King was a 1970s hippie who turned into a writer who can turn a very net phrase and paint pictures in words. If he does begin crusading for gun control, I'll be too disgusted to keep on reading his stuff but, meanwhile I do not expect him to come across like a baby boomer with blue collar roots (me)- or a highly intellectual epistemologist like yourself.
http://www.nraila.org/Issues/FactSheets/Read.aspx?ID=15
Kind DID make a statement as an answer in an interview a few years ago relating violent crime to the widespread ownership of guns. He didn't expand the premise but it sounded like the beginning of an anti-gun preachment.
In the latest Dark Tower Book, he did make a statement about the Unarmed, un-alert, and sheep-like. This sounded like the beginning of a Pro- Gun preachement.
King was a 1970s hippie who turned into a writer who can turn a very net phrase and paint pictures in words. If he does begin crusading for gun control, I'll be too disgusted to keep on reading his stuff but, meanwhile I do not expect him to come across like a baby boomer with blue collar roots (me)- or a highly intellectual epistemologist like yourself.
Joe Demko
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King has done his fair share of presenting guns in a favorable way, his ignorance of their specifics not withstanding. In The Stand, Stu arms himself with an army carbine after escaping from the medical laboratory, for example. There is also when the boys used the "borrowed" .45 to defend themselves in The Body. Even in The Dark Tower series, where we are given to understand that guns are something that only gunslingers have, we see plenty of "civilians" armed with (old) guns.
The thing about guns in King's stories is that many of his stories are set in a supernatural milieu where a firearm would be superfluous or the presence of a gun would defeat any possibility of suspense. For a writer in the horror/suspense genre, evoking those emotions trumps any need for "realism." What a THR member would do (bang!) when confronted with a menace, and what a Stephen King character would do isn't going to have much overlap for exactly that reason.
Failing some documentation of King's supposed anti-ism, I'm going to go with the idea that he is like so many Americans, and just doesn't have much of a commitment one way or the other.
The thing about guns in King's stories is that many of his stories are set in a supernatural milieu where a firearm would be superfluous or the presence of a gun would defeat any possibility of suspense. For a writer in the horror/suspense genre, evoking those emotions trumps any need for "realism." What a THR member would do (bang!) when confronted with a menace, and what a Stephen King character would do isn't going to have much overlap for exactly that reason.
Failing some documentation of King's supposed anti-ism, I'm going to go with the idea that he is like so many Americans, and just doesn't have much of a commitment one way or the other.
This isnt even remotely conclusive and it most likely means nothing about the individuals themselves. But, their charatable foundation did give $25,000 to "Physicians for Social Responsibility" in 2000. And THOSE guys are hugely antigun in a nasty and pervasive way too. (source )
Also on that page you can see a sizable donation to Green Peace, which is another issue entirely.
Now the PSR, while antigun also has a strong environmental agenda, I do believe that Tabitha (and maybe Stephen) are big on "The Environment" and this is probably why they got the grant. But, if you want some kind of really strained link between Stephen King and an antigun agenda there you have it.
Personally,
I think this hits the nail squarely on the head.
Also on that page you can see a sizable donation to Green Peace, which is another issue entirely.
Now the PSR, while antigun also has a strong environmental agenda, I do believe that Tabitha (and maybe Stephen) are big on "The Environment" and this is probably why they got the grant. But, if you want some kind of really strained link between Stephen King and an antigun agenda there you have it.
Personally,
I think this hits the nail squarely on the head.
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