The ENDOMAG has arrived

[plodder]

I have a 9mm 8.5” upper I got got from Delta Team Tactical. I’ll put on my SBR or my 5.56 pistol lower when I try it out.

Will I need anything special for a bolt carrier group?

 

[<*(((><]

I’m all for gun innovation and glad that people like endomag are thinking outside the box. I guess it’s just not for me and that’s fine.

One can find 33 rd Glock mags for 4 for 100 on sale.

But carry on don’t want to side track the OP.

It definitely allows for closer training weapon for a 5.56 as the mags are the same profile so there is that advantage.

 

[CapnMac]

Who doesn’t already have Pmags sitting around the house?

Well, I don't--but, that's from having just that many GI mags in the house (now, in four different follower colors []).
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[GunnyUSMC]

Plodder
You will need a complete 9mm upper and a 9mm buffer.

 

[Legionnaire]

Tag. I’m trying to reduce my inventory and they come out with these. May have to watch for a 9mm upper ...

 

[GunnyUSMC]

I tried it out today. I used my 8” pistol upper and my PSA 5.56 pistol lower. It functioned great. I saw surprised that the cases ejected so far, the whe about 15 feet to the right.

 

[Elkins45]

Last month I spent a little more than $100 for the Sylvan Arms magwell adapter that converts a standard lower to accept Glock mags. If I had known these existed I might have tried them out first.

FWIW the Sylvan Arms adapter has worked flawlessly with both my PSA and AR Stoner ramped bolts.

 

[mstreddy]

I can see the usefulness of the mags if someone had say an SBR and wanted to play with a number of uppers with it. Ramp the bolt and get the mag conversions and your running.

That's actually what I am thinking. I have an SBR lower that I switch uppers on. 5.56, 300 Blackout, and 7.62x39. I can also drop my CMMG 22 LR upper on it as well, but it's 16". I've been wanting to go the 9MM upper route, but hadn't figured out which of the mag block adapters to use.

This shows promise.

 

[mdThanatos]

Well, this is not good......not good at all. I now have something else on my want list. This would allow me an much more affordable AR9 pistol build.

 

[TheSquire]

Sometimes the gulf between US and UK shooters (well, OK, me) seems massive. I have no idea what this thread is about

 

[wally]

Gunny,
So, the idea is a 9MM upper on a standard lower, plus the buffer. Any other mods needed?
Hammer, bolt hold open?
Thanks!

You need to be careful when you get the 9mm upper, there are two "styles" of 9mm bolt/carriers, one of which needs a special 9mm hammer (I call it RRA style) the other that doesn't.

Standard BHO is fine, if it breaks, buy a better quality one the impact from the heavier bolt/carrier and buffer can be hard on them. OTOH depending on the mag block, the BHO may not work so it won't be an issue.

 

[wally]

I saw those earlier when someone posted about them. But with PSA’s complete Glock lower for $150 on sale when they run it, it seems like a better deal.

https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa...lassic-lower-uses-glockr-style-516447190.html

By the time one buys a magpul at mag for $8-10 and then $25 for the endomag one is more than a 33 round Glock mag.

Or a "Colt" style 9mm mag. The mag block and a standard lower can still be less expensive than the dedicated Glock lower which can't be used for other calibers (except .40S&W).

I have both kinds, I'd say go with what makes sense for you. If you don't plan on needing a lot of 9mm mags, the EndoMag makes sense.

I'm not a glock guy, so I did a quick search for "glock 33 round magazine" and picked the first vendor that came up in DuckDuckGo, which was Ammunition Depot. They're listed as $33/mag. so worst case based on your $ figures you're looking at $2/mag savings.

If casual shooting, with the main purpose being cheap ammo without reloading, the Korean Glock mags at half price or less are viable. I've a lot of them and they generally work very well although many don't drop free.

 

[GunnyUSMC]

Sometimes the gulf between US and UK shooters (well, OK, me) seems massive. I have no idea what this thread is about

Here in the US AR’s chambered in 9mm are very popular. The lower receiver to build one will cost $200 or more that. There are dedicated lowers for different types of magazines and there are different adaptors that can be installed into a standard AR lower to convert it the take 9mm magazines.
The ENDOMAG allows you to convert a standard AR lower by just inserting a magazine that has the ENDOMAG kit installed. So if you have an AR 15 all you need to do is buy a complete AR9 upper and the ENDOMAG kit. $25 is a lot cheaper then $200.
No I really didn’t need an ENDOMAG kit because, I already have two AR9’s that have Glock Mag lowers. One is a pistol, the other a carbine. But I bought the ENDONAG because I thought it was cool and wanted to see for myself if it worked.

 

[CapnMac]

The Endomag makes a lot of sense.
The only place wher eit would not be useful would be if a person were committed to a PCC (Pistol Caliber Carbine) with common magazines for both sidearm and carbine.
But, that's going to be an incredibly narrow niche market.

 

[RedlegRick]

The Endomag makes a lot of sense.
The only place wher eit would not be useful would be if a person were committed to a PCC (Pistol Caliber Carbine) with common magazines for both sidearm and carbine.
But, that's going to be an incredibly narrow niche market.

I was kind of kicking around the idea of building an NY legal carbine for coyote at some point, and since I have a G17, was thinking of doing just that.

 

[TheSquire]

That’s really interesting, thanks Gunny.
There are some ARs over her but they are single shot, straight pull hybrids, and our licensing system means that the flexibility of the AR platform is redundant.

 

[bbqreloader]

Gunny, might have missed it, but did the Endomag work?? Saw the website and was curious?

 

[mdThanatos]

I tried it out today. I used my 8” pistol upper and my PSA 5.56 pistol lower. It functioned great. I saw surprised that the cases ejected so far, the whe about 15 feet to the right.

He said it did, haven't heard otherwise yet.

 

[GunnyUSMC]

I only had one FTF, but I believe that was do to some old ammo I was using. Four different people fired it and all said that it was cool.
I’ll take it out again the next time I go shooting.

 

[H&R Glock]

Mean Arms was mean to me! Charged me $29.99 each for two of them Shipping knocks it up more than $5! OUCH!

 

[Macwhiskey]

I have an IWI X95 in 9mm. Does anyone know for certain if the Endomag will work in this system? I contacted both IWI and Endomag manufacturers and neither knew. Endomag producers suggested I try it for 30 days and return it if it doesn’t work. I replied with the crying laugh emoji.

 

[shoobe01]

I have a 9mm 8.5” upper I got got from Delta Team Tactical. I’ll put on my SBR or my 5.56 pistol lower when I try it out.


Who doesn’t already have Pmags sitting around the house?

Yeah, I am interested because I use my 10" colt clone SMG upper on it. Conversion block, which is fine, but full size mags would be cool.

Only annoyed it's a year too late. I have 6 9 mm mags now!

And... I never converted to PMAGs. Have 37 (or something, I lost count) aluminums. And a few Lancers (for 1000% different look and feel) for .300 work. So... maybe. Hmm...

Do tell how the admin handling cycle works for you as you go shoot it. I use my PCC a fair bit at IDPA where clearance is a process. A weird process (eject, lock back THEN drop mag) may confuse the SO.

 

[boom boom]

Mean Arms was mean to me! Charged me $29.99 each for two of them Shipping knocks it up more than $5! OUCH!

Just shoot more 9mm, you will make your losses back by volume!!!!!! (Joking of course).

 

[H&R Glock]

The "AR Stoner" brand of 9mm upper, does not work with the Endomag.
If Meanarms promised a refund if it does not work, you can't lose by trying one. Meanarms is a very friendly and trustworthy company to deal with.