The Fudd

[Yakko]

Name calling never makes new friends, either with the people you are referring to with the derogatory nickname, or bystanders who hear you. It is most certainly not the high road!

Nicknaming hunters who don't understand what the 2nd really means will not only alienate them but helps put you into the "nut" category when people refer to us as gun nuts. My Grandfather saw no need for him or anyone else to have an ugly black rifle, but he loved his M1 carbine.

Many of us have gotten non-shooters to go on an outing and made converts. Hunters who don't know about the joys of plinking (or hunting) semi-auto haven't been exposed to it.

So here's the challenge: Expose a bolt action hunter to our world. If we want converts we have to educate not name call.

If you've got "Fudd" on the brain watch Duck Dodgers, don't spout off in print!

 

[Bazooka Joe71]

Well, in my short experience with "EBR's" and other "AW's" so far I've converted one bolt action shooter....I call him Dad.

I've also gotten 3 of my friends to purchase various types of guns in the past few months. If within the next few months I can convert 3 or so more, I think I'm doing my part.

 

[mpmarty]

I got my liberal, Democrat attorney neighbor to shoot a Saiga 7.62x39 last week. On Tuesday of this week he bought one and on Wednesday he was asking me where to buy mil surp ammo for it. Another bites the dust.

 

[arthurcw]

I'm all for expelling "Fudd" from the Gunny's Lexicon. It serves no purpose.

 

[HonorsDaddy]

I still say we should replace "Fudd"...

...with "Zumbo"

 

[IdahoFarmer]

Pardon the ignorance... but what is the meaning/origin of Fudd?

Farmer

 

[K3]

http://www.thehighroad.org/search.php?searchid=2084060

 

[mcwjr13]

I agree the term fudd is overused, most hunters understand that if they take the "EBR"s their guns may soon also be on the chopping block. While I do not deny fudd's exist I think coining a term to describe people will only serve to further divide the firearms community

 

[mnrivrat]

I agree - drop the nickname. It doesn't serve a positive purpose to name call.

Pardon the ignorance... but what is the meaning/origin of Fudd?

It is nickname someone came up with to discribe a person who owns firearms and hunts, but does not see the need for what sometimes is termed "non-sporting" firearms.

Frankly, those who believe in firearm ownership but are willing to overlook bans on so called assault weapons, and handguns, can in fact be harmful to firearm ownership -period. However, to call them names will not serve a good result when we all (firearms owners) need to ban together to prevent the errosion of our rights.

Be assured, that those who want to ban semi-autos, handguns, and military looking firearms will not stop until they have all guns banned .

 

[CB900F]

Idaho;

I'm a neighbor here in Montana, and I'm not at all sure what the term means either. I always understood Fudd to be a cartoon character who appeared with Bugs Bunny and Daffy Duck.

However it seems as though, for some reason, it offends a portion of the membership here. In other words, it ain't politically correct, to some.

My take is that The High Road does serve as an ethical standard for our shooting sports. However, Holier-Than-Thou, is not the road to be followed by those who wish to represent a broad spectrum, and achieve said following. I know I'm not going to be in a hurry to follow somebody that narrow minded.

Another facet that concerns me is that "politically correct" is a tactic used by our opposition. Adopting the opposing side's position isn't usually considered to be good tactics. Except by the French, and it would seem to work only for them.

I'd rather an open discussion without cursing and libel of course, but allowing something other than a strict party line dialectic. Or did Elmer do something nasty in the cels we weren't allowed to see on screen?

900F

 

[F4GIB]

Unfortunately, it's often a well-earned descriptive term.

Fudd describes a hunter who only cares about hunting and their hunting firearms. They tend to actively look down on or attack other firearms that they see as not useful, EBRs etc. They are not really 2nd supporters just hunting supporters.

Accurate in way too many cases. Hard to duplicate with any other term.

Like "Gay" it has picked up a new meaning in the past week. Learn to live with it. It's not going away.

If you don't like being called a Fudd, change yourself into an "activist." People will stop calling you a Fudd.

But if it walks like a Fudd, talks like a Fudd, and quacks like a Fudd, it is a Fudd.

Ya'll can't deny reality!

:banghead:

 

[AndyC]

Not nice being on the receiving end of sneers, eh?

 

[bogie]

Kill the wabbit! Kill the wabbit!

 

[gezzer]

Fudd, Elmer Fudd. SHSSSS!! I’m stalking a wascally wabbit.

 

[wooderson]

I demand equal opportunity mud-slinging.

I don't hunt, only fish when it involves beer and a lawn chair, get all Project Runway at the thought of wearing camo and don't like being around dead animals (stuffed or unstuffed). So where's the (semi-)derisive term for us anti-Fudds, eh?

 

[wally]

How about "Nimrod" instead?

Funny how the dictionary says its a "mighty hunter" but has somehow taken on a negative context over the years to people who've not looked up the meaning.

--wally.

 

[SteveS]

I am less offended by the term then I am by some people's willingness to apply it to ALL hunters. I am a hunter and most definitely an activist.

 

[kentucky_smith]

As opposed to the wily mall ninja, the slightly portly (fat) guy who spends all his extra money on evil black stuff and accoutrement in pursuit of all things tacticool. He spends hours on forums debating why his GLOCK are better than others (even though he hasn't shot all of them, just the one he has is better). He takes pictures of his guns to post on all the cool forums, but hasn't taken all of them out to shoot.

When he does go to the range, he's wearing size xxl BDUs, with the tactical GLOCK holster strapped to his leg and wiley x sunglasses that he never removes. Most of his shooting involves trying to see how quickly he can unload his 33 round GLOCK mags at the general direction of the 10 yard target.

He has a zombie plan and manifesto on his website.

He can't skin a buck deer or run a trot line.

 

[musher]

Well, I guess the search utility works, because I was going to post this very thought in a new thread.

Seems to me we ought to consider the GOAL of the exercise. If deriding and alienating one segment of the shooting population is the goal, then calling them names might just work.

If uniting folks who use firearms for all different reasons is the goal, then perhaps we might consider education rather than humiliation.

Just my .02

 

[Hemicuda]

I prefer to hunt with a bolt gun... (most of my high-powered rifles ARE bolt action!) I own, but don't hunt with, an AR variant, a couple AK's an SKS, and a Barrett .50 Semi-Auto...

in .22 rimfires, I have more semi-autos than any other... but hunt most often with a good bolt gun...

I'm ACTIVE in RKBA, and whatnot...

call me a "fudd" if you like, it DOESN'T bother me... bolt guns lock up tighter, and are inherently more accurate...

 

[Jim K]

I have known a number of "fudds" who were amenable to reason and even changed their minds. But there are some that are not reasonable. I have been called a "lunatic", "gun crazy", "trigger happy", "murderer", and, lately, "terrorist" by people who owned "proper" guns.

One of the groups inclined toward a "ban everything but my gun" attitude are the duck and goose hunters. Many of them see no reason for anyone to own anything with a rifled barrel. But not all the gun owning anti-gunners are hunters. Some "pure" target rifle shooters fall into that category; handguns are bad and semi-auto rifles are anathema. (Remember the bruhaha a few years ago when some Olympic shooters denounced the NRA and called hunters and regular shooters all kinds of names?)

Some real purists believe that there is only one proper and correct hunting gun, the side-by-side double shotgun, by a top English maker. Everything else is junk that would never be owned by a "true sportsman" and should be banned.

So, I agree that name calling should be put aside in favor of persuasion. But I reserve the right to respond in kind to being called a "terrorist" or a "lunatic."

Jim

 

[.38 Special]

I wonder how the defenders of the "Fudd" epithet would respond to being called, oh, let's say "terrorists".

Oh, but wait: we already know how they'd respond.

Maybe gunners calling each other names isn't such a good idea after all...

 

[461]

Rational people seldom feel a need for name calling. The response of "But they started it" rarely holds much water.

 

[hso]

Working to divide shooters into little isolated pockets often starts with name calling. Fudds, Gomers, Rambos, etc. are all names we give to some subset of shooters "we" don't approve of. The problem with slinging mud is that it's not a precise round capabale of surgical precision. There's often collateral damage even when it hits it's intended target and people all too often aren't careful of the "friendly fire" aspects. Monkey throw crap, let's aspire to be better than that.

 

[PAshooter]

Agree - while it's understandable to be annoyed by "hunter types" who don't really "get" the 2nd Ammendment, name calling will win no new converts to our side. They should be approached in the same way as non shooters - with information, not insults.

My Grandfather saw no need for him or anyone else to have an ugly black rifle, but he loved his M1 carbine.

To this I would reply: Read the list of banned guns included in HR1022 (the new AWB bill). The M1 Carbine is in there right along with our ARs and AKs... it's a magazine fed semiautomatic military style rifle, and therefore an "assault weapon" (or "terrorist weapon" depending on who you listen to).

Makes sense, actually, as functionally it's identical to the rest of the guns on the list. Here's something to show "hunter types" as a way of exposing the stupidity of laws like this.