I like the man-sized feel of the Rem 552, but have mixed emotions about the floating chamber. It seems like a place that needs cleaning often to function reliably. If it had a standard chamber, I probably would have bought one long ago.
The Good Ol' .22
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JFrame
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The flip side of this is that -- at least in my case -- it was virtually impossible for me to keep the two 10/22's I have in "stock" configuration.
The 10/22 is like the Transformer of rifles. Maybe it is, as they say, that "idle time is the devil's playground." But inevitably, I think a huge percentage (a majority even?) of 10/22 owners start looking online or flipping through firearm parts catalogs, and thinking, "Hmmm..."
It's fun, addictive, and when you get down to it, it's "only" a 10/22, so you think, "What the heck..."
So, FWIW, I love my 10/22's -- both in their original incarnation, and the modified beasties they've become...
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CajunBass
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I've got five 10/22's. I got all of them used, simply because they're cheaper that way. Maybe they're not the most accurate 22 you can buy, but I can't prove it to myself. They're accurate enough for me anyway. I don't seem to have any trouble hitting squirrels with them anyway.
I don't care much for the standard version, but only because I think they're kinda ugly, usually. I like the walnut stocked, DSP models. Yea, they're worth the extra money.
A couple of mine.
An old "Wally World Special". With it's longer barrel, and hardwood DSP style stock, it was the first 10/22 I really liked.
The others are good. In the end you just gotta decide which one you want.
I don't care much for the standard version, but only because I think they're kinda ugly, usually. I like the walnut stocked, DSP models. Yea, they're worth the extra money.
A couple of mine.
An old "Wally World Special". With it's longer barrel, and hardwood DSP style stock, it was the first 10/22 I really liked.
The others are good. In the end you just gotta decide which one you want.
newshooter6
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I would go w. The 552 or even he Marlin model 60 if I was OK w. tube fed. I am specifically looking for a magazine fed .22lr cajunebass, those are some very pretty rifles. Not sure where people are getting the idea that the 10/22 is an ugly gun.. anyways off to lunch then the shop
The 10/22 is a fine little rifle,but my wife just chose for her next .22 a Remmy 552 Speedmaster.We picked it up last week and it is phenomonally accurate. Very nice wood too,kind of takes me back to the days when I had all my bolt action hunters built and the stocks hand checkered.
I'm sure this checkering is machine done,although the execution is good enough to make it appear otherwise.Very pleased with the Speedmaster.
I'm sure this checkering is machine done,although the execution is good enough to make it appear otherwise.Very pleased with the Speedmaster.
My favorite .22 rifle is a Miroku/Winchester 63
Next to it is a CZ 452 Military Trainer
Then my Model 60 Marlin
I also own two Remington 581 bolt rifles and a Mossberg 44US but the kids and the wife shoot those rifles more than I do.
I never had any very good luck as far as accuracy goes with any of several 10/22 rifles I owned.
They were all reliable with factory 10 shot magazines and accurate enough for general purposes but I never could get any of them to group as well as I felt they should be capable of.
My Model 60 is more accurate and just as reliable of any of the 10/22s I owned and it is my least accurate rifle.
Next to it is a CZ 452 Military Trainer
Then my Model 60 Marlin
I also own two Remington 581 bolt rifles and a Mossberg 44US but the kids and the wife shoot those rifles more than I do.
I never had any very good luck as far as accuracy goes with any of several 10/22 rifles I owned.
They were all reliable with factory 10 shot magazines and accurate enough for general purposes but I never could get any of them to group as well as I felt they should be capable of.
My Model 60 is more accurate and just as reliable of any of the 10/22s I owned and it is my least accurate rifle.
788Ham
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Try a Remington 572 Fieldmaster, very accurate rifle. Its a pump, but mine will shoot all day long, shorts, longs or long rifle cartridges. I've had mine for 30 years, take the trigger assembly out every couple of years and clean, good for another 30 years. Can't beat an older well made rifle!
CajunBass
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Thanks. 'Preciate it.
The standard carbine is sort of plain, if not ugly, but the upgraded DSP guns I think are some of the nicest looking rifles ever made, for any amount of money. I know a lot of people don't care about that, and that's fine with me, but I spend a lot more time looking at my guns than I do shooting them. I like for them to look nice.
That Remington 552 is NICE too. I gotta get me one of those one of these days.
newshooter6
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Well, I just got back from the shop. Sorry to dissapoint all the Rugar fans but I went w. The Marlin 795ss. Why? It was cheaper and for now I'm just looking for something simple long lasting and reliable.
However, I do plan on getting a 10/22 as well, just a little down the road when I have the money to play around and add upgrades. Probably next year sometime. Till then I can shoot all I want w. Dirt cheap .22lr and bring out the .30-06 on the weekends. Thanks for all the input and as always I will be posting some pics when the deal is finalized.
However, I do plan on getting a 10/22 as well, just a little down the road when I have the money to play around and add upgrades. Probably next year sometime. Till then I can shoot all I want w. Dirt cheap .22lr and bring out the .30-06 on the weekends. Thanks for all the input and as always I will be posting some pics when the deal is finalized.
Glad that people actually can shoot in Connecticut. When I passed through there I noticed all the traffic and pavement and figured it would be nigh impossible to go shooting in that state even if one was so inclined. I'm happy to learn that I was mistaken.
newshooter6
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Surprisingly CT is a relativity gun friendly state, castle doctrine etc. I'm guessing because we're the home of Marlin, I believe colt? And a few other major manufactures. In fact, theres a gun store and a range less than 10min. from my house. It takes bout 15min. To pick up ammo and head over to the range
newshooter6
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The knock on the 10/22 is that they are not "accurate". Well, compared to what? At what range? Under what conditions? How does one quantify accuracy? Typically MOA (minute of angle) is a measure of accuracy and represents 1" at 100 yards. 1 MOA is the standard for military sniper rifles. That is very good accuracy from a rifle. So, unless someone specifies a known distance and specific size groups compared to a known unit of measurement, then any claim of "accuracy" is nothing more than internet BS.
Most 10/22s can shoot 4 MOA (probably better) which is basically what any service rifle and most hunting rifles are capable of. 4 MOA is a 4" group at 100 yards or 2" at 50 yards or 1" at 25 yards. I can shoot all 4 of my stock 10/22s inside an inch at 25 yards and I would venture to say from my observations that most factory 10/22 rifles can also do that but their owners can't. In my opinion based on 50 years of shooting experience, I would say the 10/22 is accurate enough.
Back when you could get a new 10/22 for $150 or a used one at a pawn shop all day long for $100 or less (where I got all mine) I would say the Ruger was hands down the best 22 for the money. With them typically $200+ now, I would start looking at the Marlin 795.
I bought a 795 a couple months ago for $105 after rebate and it is really the best bang for the buck going right now. I've put a couple thousand rounds through it with no problems. It has a lot of features that make it a good kick around beater, truck/trunk, training and/or intro to shooting rifle. Where are you ever again going to find an accurate, reliable 22 rifle in this day and age for around $100? I am tempted to go buy a couple of them just to stash away for the future.
Most 10/22s can shoot 4 MOA (probably better) which is basically what any service rifle and most hunting rifles are capable of. 4 MOA is a 4" group at 100 yards or 2" at 50 yards or 1" at 25 yards. I can shoot all 4 of my stock 10/22s inside an inch at 25 yards and I would venture to say from my observations that most factory 10/22 rifles can also do that but their owners can't. In my opinion based on 50 years of shooting experience, I would say the 10/22 is accurate enough.
Back when you could get a new 10/22 for $150 or a used one at a pawn shop all day long for $100 or less (where I got all mine) I would say the Ruger was hands down the best 22 for the money. With them typically $200+ now, I would start looking at the Marlin 795.
I bought a 795 a couple months ago for $105 after rebate and it is really the best bang for the buck going right now. I've put a couple thousand rounds through it with no problems. It has a lot of features that make it a good kick around beater, truck/trunk, training and/or intro to shooting rifle. Where are you ever again going to find an accurate, reliable 22 rifle in this day and age for around $100? I am tempted to go buy a couple of them just to stash away for the future.
Hanzo581
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You made an excellent choice. If you don't plan on dumping money into the already more expensive 10/22, the 795 is good to go at a smidge over a hundred bucks.
glad you got the ruger, looks like the same one I own. I put a cheap but decent scope on mine and have had it since 1999. I don't take good care of it, the stainless has actually started getting some blemishes, and rarely clean it. That said, I use it to cut vines out of trees (with a mountain backdrop of course), and have used it to cut several hornet nests out of trees with very very small branches. By far the most accurate gun I've ever owned. I've got some complaints, the trigger is way too crisp and heavy, the stock stock (hehe) is a little short, and the stock mag release and bolt release are way too small. But all of that is cheaply and easily fixed if it ever bothers you or me too much. I love mine just stock, and since I own a decent sized farm it is the gun that I grab to put on the 4 wheeler when I go out back. By far my favorite gun, and I'm in the market for another one to set up just for night shooting.
BTW, I've legally killed many deer with it, most of them using open sights. say what you want about the ethics of using a .22 for deer, but my freezer is full and my conscience is clear since none of them got away....
BTW, I've legally killed many deer with it, most of them using open sights. say what you want about the ethics of using a .22 for deer, but my freezer is full and my conscience is clear since none of them got away....
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