B.D. Turner
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I like the option of having both with the iron sights set at a 100yd. zero.
The hundred dollar snake
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one-shot-one
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SUBMOAS :
"Just curious, Do you think Leupold is made in the USA?"
THAT IS WHAT IT SAYS ON THE BOX!
"Just curious, Do you think Leupold is made in the USA?"
THAT IS WHAT IT SAYS ON THE BOX!
SUBMOAS
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That's probably true....
The box is made in the USA....
The box is made in the USA....
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I'd rather have a cheap rifle than a cheap scope.
Sometimes they work great for a long time sometimes, they fail right out of the box. It's the uncertainty that should keep you away.
here's the deal save up and buy a good rifle. Save up and buy a good scope that way you won't be let down at the most inopportune times.
Back when I was doing a fair amount of guiding NOTHING said watch out for this guy like a shiny new gun with a big bell high power cheap scope. Tasco, BSA, Simmons, Barska just to name a few WILL fail you at some time, maybe sooner maybe later but they will fail, PERIOD! Just say no to cheap scopes.
I have had few problems with leupold. It is my scope of choice in a 1.75 X 6 or a 2.5 X 8 Vari X III. they are the best, most reliable, brightest, toughest scopes, available for the money.
A year from now you won't miss the $400.00 you spent on one. It's money well spent.
Sometimes they work great for a long time sometimes, they fail right out of the box. It's the uncertainty that should keep you away.
here's the deal save up and buy a good rifle. Save up and buy a good scope that way you won't be let down at the most inopportune times.
Back when I was doing a fair amount of guiding NOTHING said watch out for this guy like a shiny new gun with a big bell high power cheap scope. Tasco, BSA, Simmons, Barska just to name a few WILL fail you at some time, maybe sooner maybe later but they will fail, PERIOD! Just say no to cheap scopes.
I have had few problems with leupold. It is my scope of choice in a 1.75 X 6 or a 2.5 X 8 Vari X III. they are the best, most reliable, brightest, toughest scopes, available for the money.
A year from now you won't miss the $400.00 you spent on one. It's money well spent.
one-shot-one
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SUBMOAS
could be but it is usually the other way around
could be but it is usually the other way around
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one-shot-one
Wish it was.......
Wish it was.......
Picknlittle
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Even before this episode with the BSA (Bullet Sidestepping Animals) scope, several more experienced friends cautioned me saying that one should spend as much on the scope as they did on the rifle. This is best applied with new gun purchases I suppose <G>
At any rate I have learned a valuable lesson. I shall be satisfied with properly adjusted iron sights until I can afford the scope I need. The more recoil expected, the more scope money needed.
I'm just glad this episode didn't leave me with a badly wounded deer to chase down. On the next trip out I gave her a new home,....my freezer!
At any rate I have learned a valuable lesson. I shall be satisfied with properly adjusted iron sights until I can afford the scope I need. The more recoil expected, the more scope money needed.
I'm just glad this episode didn't leave me with a badly wounded deer to chase down. On the next trip out I gave her a new home,....my freezer!
sixgunner455
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I have experimented with cheap scopes and been very frustrated. I have been very happy with an expensive scope, right up until I fell on it and bent the bell very badly. That elk hunt would have been over if not for the iron sights on the rifle. The scope wouldn't adjust back to within 4 feet of point of aim.
I ripped the ruined scope off, aimed at a black spot on a rock 150 meters off, and nailed it with the irons.
I put a scope on a .22 to play around with, but I'm not going to rely on a scope. Just can't.
I ripped the ruined scope off, aimed at a black spot on a rock 150 meters off, and nailed it with the irons.
I put a scope on a .22 to play around with, but I'm not going to rely on a scope. Just can't.
kungfuhippie
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I threw a iron elite scope mount on my mauser, this was my second attempt to scope it (lets not speak of the first) I wasn't sure if the mount would be very good or if the rifle would be worthy of a scope, so I bought a Tasco Walmart special for $39.96. I figured that if I didn't like the mount I could ebay it for close to cost so a cheap scope to begin with, and replace before trying to hunt would be the way to go. I got it sighted in in no time and put 100 rds. of surplus 8mm through it. At 100 yards I was shooting 2" groups with the aid of my monopod. I'm not a great shot, but that was proof enough that the mount was good. The scope has survived several range trips and seams to hold center with the romanian surplus I've put through it. But before I got deer hunting with it I will put on an expensive/good scope, because I don't want to miss a shot because of walmart-junk failing.
I seriously expected the thing to fall apart after 200 rounds, then I'd sell the mount or get a new scope. So I guess the moral is that a cheapo scope may work fine, but don't bet your deer on it. Maybe it will make it til summer...
I seriously expected the thing to fall apart after 200 rounds, then I'd sell the mount or get a new scope. So I guess the moral is that a cheapo scope may work fine, but don't bet your deer on it. Maybe it will make it til summer...
redneck2
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Trouble with cheap scopes on hunting rifles is that they fail at the worst times. If your target rifle fails, you can come back next week. The animal of a lifetime is probably gone forever.
I had a Simmons 44 Mag scope on my muzzler loader. Had to watch a 14 point, 26" spread buck walk because my scope fogged. Another guy shot him from a pick-up the next week-end while road hunting.
Everything now is Burris, Leupold, B&L, or high end Weaver
FWIW...one of the guys at a local gun shop told me about the new Weavers. They shoot a LOT of competition with Contenders and Encores. He takes them over Leo's and Burris (which would have been my first two choices)
When I worked in the gun shop, I had buyers that used this "logic". They were spending $4,500 apiece on an elk hunt but wanted to save a couple hundred dollars on their scopes. Fools.
I had a Simmons 44 Mag scope on my muzzler loader. Had to watch a 14 point, 26" spread buck walk because my scope fogged. Another guy shot him from a pick-up the next week-end while road hunting.
Everything now is Burris, Leupold, B&L, or high end Weaver
FWIW...one of the guys at a local gun shop told me about the new Weavers. They shoot a LOT of competition with Contenders and Encores. He takes them over Leo's and Burris (which would have been my first two choices)
When I worked in the gun shop, I had buyers that used this "logic". They were spending $4,500 apiece on an elk hunt but wanted to save a couple hundred dollars on their scopes. Fools.
kungfuhippie
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Amen to that. I can be happy not taking a shot at the prize whatever because the shot is bad, or I just don't want to for what ever reason. But not take the shot because of an equipment failure! I'd never let that one go. My cheap scope will most definatly come off before I hunt with it. Why miss a good shot for being penny wise and pound foolish?
Also, being a sentimentalist-hunter, I have no problem with taking animals for food/sport/pest control. But I get really ticked when I see the guy who takes impossible shots, or uses too small a gun, or doesn't sight in his scope and leaves a critter to suffer and die slowly because his shot placement was bad...because he's an idiot and an irresponsible hunter.
Finding a dead deer that bled out from a shot in its gut after running away from a poor hunter is a great way for the nature nazis to ban hunting. I know sometimes shots are missed and animals vanish after being shot. But alot of that stems from bad hunters.
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