The importance of muzzle awareness (GRAPHIC)

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Proof that you can always learn something new; suffice to say that I've been to most of those sites above before, but the frfrogspad site was unfamiliar to me, as was the setting of the rules to "the battle hymn of the republic" mentioned therein. Classic.
 
"A hunter falls from a tree stand he doesnt stop hunting"

Actually, most ex-hunters I know decided never to hunt again, after falling from a stand.

Glad to hear you're ok.
 
Not yet, to my surprise. Most are sympathetic. I explain it to them like this:

"A racecar driver gets in a wreck, he doesnt stop racing"

"A foot ball player breaks his leg and he doesnt stop playing football"

"A hunter falls from a tree stand he doesnt stop hunting"

"A skier hits a tree, he doesnt stop skeeing"

Sounds more like a lesson to stay away from trees :p

But, in all seriousness it's a good thing that you're leg is gonna heal up!
 
Safety is a state of mind....

If the hunter is in a tree stand and has his SAFETY harness on, and falls, he may survive to hunt again. Skiing is inherently unsafe and after seeing Olympic racers bounce like Gumby (dammit) I eschew the sport. Good thing I live in the flatlands! To the OP, thanks for the great thread, best wishes for a speedy recovery!
 
thank you for the follow up on your story. it is really a grim reminder to us all of what can happen when we stop paying attention.

my prayers are with you for a speedy recovery.
 
Slightly off topic, I remember in your original post you mentioned that the cops took a few of your guns when they came to the house, have you gotten those back yet?
 
Talked to the CLEO yesterday. The local PD is being REALLY understanding and cooperative. Theyre just going through the legal paces. The guns are still at the "lab". Should have been back this week but they werent. He personnally called to tell me this yesterday. He left his direct line number and told me to call him next week.......

So overall Im satisfied with an otherwise unpleasant experiance with the local PD. Ill get the guns back....

My biggest concern is the condition Ill get them back in. They were almost brand new when they took them.
 
My biggest concern is the condition Ill get them back in. They were almost brand new when they took them.

Ouch I bet that hurts too. Seriously though sorry to see something like that happen, get well soon.
 
1. Thankful you are OK.
2. Thanks for sharing this with us. Nothing like a little "Show and Tell" to help emphasize a point!
3. Take care and recover fully.
 
AND, it missed the body art

Haha, yea. I was wondering how long it was going to take for someone to say something. Lifes good, played with the dog in the yard yesterday, did a little light jogging,.............................. then went in and took two Lortabs.
 
Thank you for posting this

Thanks for posting this. It's a very sobering reminder of just how powerful and dangerous guns are if not handled properly at *all* times. I hope you recover fully.

Sincerely,

Ben
Arlington, VA
 
Wow, that does not look fun, glad to hear you're recovering well. I hope you aren't letting that guy near you anymore... especially with guns.
 
Holy Moly!!!:eek:

I'm glad you made it through with your leg. Whoosh, that looks painful!

I for one, will take your lesson to heart on this.

Best of luck on the healing.
 
Question if you don't mind. Can you tell of more about the actual shot? How did it feel, were you in shock? Blood loss etc. If you don't mind. Thanks.
 
Glad to hear you're recovering well. Firearm safety is not to be taken lightly. The way I teach it, I don't say "treat a gun as if it's loaded". The "as if" is too light and leaves doubt as to whether it really is loaded or not. I say "a firearm is ALWAYS loaded, treat it as such." Even with the magazine out and the action open, "a firearm is ALWAYS loaded". This puts a much stronger emphasis on that first rule. Number two, of course, is "keep your booger hook off the bang switch".

I hope your friend learned his lesson and I hope you get your firearms back. I hate it when the cops violate peoples rights. Your friend had an ND and they take your guns? That's BS. Now you have no way to defend your home while you're recovering. Hopefully after they've taken them apart and messed with them to see if any are "machine guns", ran all the finger prints off them and ran all the serial numbers you'll get them back in working order. There was no reason for them to confiscate your firearms.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcayvRkWfJg by safety video.
 
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Can you tell of more about the actual shot? How did it feel, were you in shock? Blood loss etc.

Sure.

How did it feel???

Mmmm....didnt feel anything. It actually took a couple seconds for my friend to start screaming before I realized what happened. Then I actually thought to myself ,"did what I think just happend really just happen?" Then I saw the blood. I didnt really feel anything until after I woke from surgery. The bullet severed the big nerve that runs down my leg so I still dont have any feeling below my knee.

My wife is a RN. She applied direct pressure. We attempted to apply pressure to the artery from behind my knee but that didnt work. I kicked my shoes off and took my pants off while I "myself" dialed 911. My friend was just running around screaming about how sorry he was.

Blood loss was estimated at 3-4 qts. Thats right, almost half my body's capacity. I was concious and aware of the amount of blood loss, and that is actually what made me the most worried. By the time the medics had a full throttle IV in EACH arm I had started to go dim (thats the best way I can explain it). But on the ambulance ride I began to regain full alertness. The one thing I do remember is how cold I was. Frigid cold. I kept telling them "im freezing" They put heating blankets on me in the ambu. anf that made me feel better too.

I had arterial bleeding from two holes in my body. Plus, I had just drank a Monster energy drink, Im sure that didnt help keep my heartrate down. I have good neighbors and they came and cleaned the mess in the house after I went to the hospital.

Heres my personal thoughts on survival in a situation like this:

Ive done four combat tours during this war on terror. In the back of my mind I always kinda knew I would get shot sooner or later, I could always just kinda feel it coming. For years I had played through different scenarios in my head of how I would react to being shot.

As soon as I realized Id been hit I said to myslef "Calm Down". Then I asked my self "does it hurt?" No, it didnt. So I told myself to just relax and apply basic first aid. I was telling myself "keep leg elevated, apply direct pressure, stay focused on being alert". I knew help was on the way.

I knew I was losing alot of blood so I told my friend to get me a bottle of water and I began trying to replinish fluids as quickly as I could. Come to find out that was a bad idea according to the medics that arrived, I still dont know why....

I still havent recieved my guns back from the PD yet. They said they have to send them to some lab in Florida. CLEO says they should be back any week now. I keep calling twice a week, they know Im waiting. The CLEO is actuall a fairly light hearted guy and assures me that I will get them back any time now. Im feel without a boubt that when they return from the lab I will get a call to come get them.
 
Sincerely hope and pray for a full recovery for you, and another thanks for sharing your story so that hopefully others won't have to go through what you are.

As a side note:
...I told my friend to get me a bottle of water and I began trying to replinish fluids as quickly as I could. Come to find out that was a bad idea according to the medics that arrived, I still dont know why....

It might have to do with the fact that, given massive blood loss, should you lose consciousness they'll likely need to start CPR or at least assisting your breathing. Or, if when you go into surgery they'll gas you out. Both of those things can potentially lead to stomach contents moving up the airway and being aspirated. And that would be very bad. You can basically get a lung infection and get sent to the great beyond by that instead of the gunshot wound, which would really suck. Realize that "fight or flight" response leads to decreased bloodflow to the stomach and intestines. Hence why they bypass the GI tract and just slam some large-bore IVs in each arm.
 
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