The importance of muzzle awareness (GRAPHIC)

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Mmmm....didn't feel anything. It actually took a couple seconds for my friend to start screaming before I realized what happened. Then I actually thought to myself ,"did what I think just happened really just happen?" Then I saw the blood.
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I can relate, brother...sort of.

When I was shot, that was my exact reaction. I remember a millisecond or two of denial. My incident was nowhere near as life threatening, however. I never felt anything until hours later once the adrenaline had died down...then it hurt pretty dang bad. But in that split second where I realized what happened had actually happened, that was a very queasy moment. :barf: I was told that I was remarkably calm, more so than everyone else present. Funny, because my mind was in full on panic mode it seemed, lol. I did the best I could to control the bleeding while I had a panic stricken friend drive me to the local fire department which was close by (few people had cell phones back then and I was nowhere near a land line).

I was also involved in a pretty bad bike wreck once, in which I was tossed over the handlebars at 55 MPH when I was confronted with the front end of a Cadillac. I was told that I was calm and cool despite extensive injuries. I remember talking to the older gentleman that hit me, convincing them that I was ok and I would be ok...just call 911 please. I convinced him to remain calm before he has a heart attack, call 911, see to his injured wife in his passenger seat and stay with her since she look frightened to death. None of those injuries hurt either, until the adrenaline rush subsided on the x-ray table.:barf:

Your mind does strange things when confronted with a possible life or death scenario. With the gunshot wound, it honestly seemed like no big deal once I realized I hadn't taken a potentially fatal hit. When I finished rolling through the grass after my motorcycle incident, my mind created a checklist so to speak.
  • The forced knocked my shoes off...can I wiggle my toes? Check! Probably not paralyzed, awesome!
  • Check my boxers for my "manhood." Check! ;) Seems silly, but try to imagine the possibility of permanent damage and you'd be worried, too!
  • Rib or two is obviously badly bruised or broken...lay still, very still.
  • Femur broken, but no signs of femoral artery damage...lay very, very still.

My life never flashed before my eyes, I just remember two distinct thoughts while flying through the air.
  1. Crap, this is going to hurt like hell.:what:
  2. 2. Hey, I never got to father any kids (I've since remedied that).:(

Hope all has recovering well with you and best of luck! Thank you very much for sharing the incident and reminding everyone to be safe.
 
It takes a lot of force to break a femur.
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You'd be surprised, lol. It also knock my shoes off (found by a good friend on opposite sides of the road??), my face shield off of my full face helmet, my sunglasses off, emptied my pockets and the spyderco stainless police model out of my pocket and through some guy's house window. I now understand the importance of riding leathers (thankfully I landed in someone's yard and not the pavement), proper riding boots and zippered pockets. I would highly discourage anyone from wearing SOB style while riding, if I had been wearing SOB style on that day, I'm sure that may have caused some irreversible spinal damage.

Sounds like bkjeffrey's experience was a real eye opener and a harsh lesson for his friend at bkjeffrey's expense. I sincerely hate it for all parties involved. I could only imagine how bad his friend feels, much less the physical pain bkjeffrey has since endured.
 
Thanks for your service.

Thanks for sharing.

Glad you're okay.

Can you describe HOW it happened in detail. Where were you and your friend standing, why was he playing with the gun, did he realize it was loaded or was the mag out and he didn't know it was chambered, why did he point it at you and squeeze the trigger, etc.
 
My son just took his hunter ed class. One thing the instructor talked about that really struck me was, if you use guns you will have a close call. Depending on how you adhere to firearms safety, you may be hurt or you might die. I have had three close calls with discharged firearms. Lead in my chest and years later in my scalp. Hope you heal up good man, thanks for the pics, I will be a safer shooter because of them.
 
Can you describe HOW it happened in detail. Where were you and your friend standing, why was he playing with the gun, did he realize it was loaded or was the mag out and he didn't know it was chambered, why did he point it at you and squeeze the trigger, etc.
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Lets go......

Where were you and your friend standing
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He was sitting to my right on the loveseat in my living room. He was holding the gun in his right hand so naturally it was pointed at my legs.

why was he playing with the gun
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He was attempting to field strip the firearm.

did he realize it was loaded or was the mag out and he didn't know it was chambered
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It was not chambered when he picked the gun up. BUT, the magazine was in.

why did he point it at you and squeeze the trigger, etc.
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The gun was a S&W Pro 9. The slide has to be pulled rearward to actuate the takedown pin. (this is when the round chambered)

The next step in dissassembly is to decock the action allowing the slide to be slide forward off the frame. (thats when the gun fired)

DISCLAIMER: Im not sure if that is the proper method of dissassembly for the S&W Pro 9MM. That was HIS method of dissassembly according to him. From my latest understanding there is a safer (the proper way) way to strip the gun. I do not own the gun in question and I DO NOT know the mfgrs recommended method of dissassembly.

DISCLAIMER #2 I, myself, should have been more aware of the situation beforehand. I know this, and I DO NOT need anyone here reminding ME of the improtance of the 4 basic safety rules.

Please, please, please...... simply let this thread be a reminder to all. Let me be the example to the rest of you.
 
That was HIS method of dissassembly according to him. From my latest understanding there is a safer (the proper way) way to strip the gun.
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So, do you feel that it really was an honest mistake, forgiving him? Or do you think that his lack of safety was simple stupidity, holding a bit of a grudge? Will you remain friends with him? Handle firearms around him in the future?
 
So, do you feel that it really was an honest mistake
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yes

forgiving him?
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yes

Or do you think that his lack of safety was simple stupidity
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Absolutely.

holding a bit of a grudge?
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Maybe when I'm 65 years old and my leg starts giving me problems.

Handle firearms around him in the future?
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There's people that I've been shooting with for many years that I'm leary of now. Maybe a bit paranoid to be around others with guns even. Lets just say Im no longer comfortable at a public range anymore.

Whats even more ironic is that 5 days after he shot me he was on an airplane headed to witheld location with an automatic weapon, and enough ammo to take over a small village...now thats funny right there!...(i probably should not have said that) My only grudge with him is that I was supposed to be on that same ride, now Im here telling my story while he's gettin some glory. I should be catching up with the boys sometime next month though......I'm recovering well.
 
Glad you´re recovering, glad you´re taking it so well.
And thanks for sharing.

(I wont even let Kids sweep me with toy guns,
... because it´s wrong, unless you can clearly
see its made from plywood .....)

i dont even want to think about
what it would have looked like with
supadupa-HD-hollowpoints in that ....
 
My dad knew someone whos son was killed by something similar. This Kid decided to show his friend his dads gun so he took it out, removed the magazine and then said it was empty and handed it to his friend, His friend from what I understand started "shooting" the gun around and then pointed it at his friends head and pulled the trigger. I believe that he wasn't killed instantly but he was gonna be a vegatable so they decided not to try, at least thats what I understand.
 
Looks like the staple gun got you pretty good also!
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Speaking of staples....don't they feel weird in cold weather?! I just had 20 or so across my abdomen back in January and found that to be quite a weird sensation.
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I think there was total of 144 staples and stitches........

Nah, they didn't bother me in cold weather. It doesn't get too cold here in the south.
 
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Well, either way bkjeffrey, please come back and let us know 8 weeks from now what happened. That way we can sort the wheat from the chaff in this thread and see whether you were hauled up on charges, thrown in the dungeon and your guns stolen or the cops conduct an investigation and return your guns or something in between.
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Well, the shooting happened on 16FEB and today is 31MAR. I got a call from the CLEO's secretary. My guns are back. No problem there. I got a recent copy of the police report and the "status" of the case is "Dismissed/Inactive"

So, for everyone that thought the police were plotting to throw me and my buddy in jail, theres the update. Guns returned and case closed. No lawyers needed. Interestingly enough the local law enforcement and the CLEO (Chief of police) have been very supportive and understanding during all of this.

Whats even funnier is that last week I went to the police station to get finger print cards done and a CLEO signature on my Form 4 for a suppressor purchase.......you shoulda seen the look on their faces for that one! Priceless. The CLEO signed it no problem........
 
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Check out the movie MY DOG SKIP A scene where a kid does show and tell with a rifle.
Its suppose to be 1942. Kid sweeps the class room and all the kids and teacher ducks under the muzzle.
Good lesson. I know it was only a movie. I like to think they were smarter then.
Good that you suppose to heal up good. Have your friend attend and support $ and time with some firearm safety classes.
 
glad to hear that all ended well! very happy to hear that you got your guns back too!
 
Jeez that looks like a nasty hit. Glad you're okay. Are you going to get the feeling back below the knee? Any permanently disabling damage?
 
Feeling will return. If I remember correctly the surgeon said that nerves grow back at something like 1mm a month (that may be wrong). But either way the nerves will come back slowly. No permanent damge, no limping, no pain and no whining.

I owe alot to good physical therapy. I think that if I would have neglected to adhere to a strick physical therapy program I would have long term problems. We started therapy as soon as I was out of the hospital and I'm fine now. Stuck with it and grunted through the pain and now Im at about 90% of pre-wound activity level. The rest will come in due time. Until then it will remain a constant reminder of the consequences of complacency.

I even double and triple check my own weapons before I handle them...... (looking for that one round the may have mysteriously snuck in there) maybe a bit of over caution...haha. Friends still bring firearms to my home and I put them through the paces as well....... but they understand and I think they too have learned a valuable lesson from my experience.
 
Feeling will return. If I remember correctly the surgeon said that nerves grow back at something like 1mm a month (that may be wrong). But either way the nerves will come back slowly. No permanent damge, no limping, no pain and no whining.

Until then it will remain a constant reminder of the consequences of complacency.

I even double and triple check my own weapons before I handle them...... (looking for that one round the may have mysteriously snuck in there) maybe a bit of over caution...haha. Friends still bring firearms to my home and I put them through the paces as well....... but they understand and I think they too have learned a valuable lesson from my experience.
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Thanks for having the courage to post your story and I'm glad the recovery is going well. I had my own AD/ND with a 9mm in 2008, so I know some of what you are going through. Isn't it amazing how much damage a little 9mm, and 'only ball' ammo can do?
 
thanks for sharing, glad you are OK, and it's nice to see you have a positive look on the whole thing.

Also another thank you for what you are doing to protect this country.
 
bkjeffrey,I have a request.
I'm currently teaching a hunter safety course. Would you permit me to show my class your pictures? No names, just the story and the pictures of what can happen.

My next class is Monday 4/12/10.
Let me know if it's ok.

thanks
Stork
 
bkjeffrey, thanks for sharing, and thank you for your service. Prayer up fpr continued healing!
 
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