Gordon
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Mine! Likes Remington Low noise hollow point ammo
The JC Higgins Model 31
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Beauty!
richie
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I Bought a Mod.31 this weekend at a gun show, I always wanted one when I was a kid. Anyways I don't believe in dry firing a gun, especially a rimfire. So when I bought it I assumed it worked, anyways it doesn"t, the trigger does not release the hammer. So I downloaded the manual and scematics, seen how to pull the trigger assembly apart. But I think someone took it apart and reassembled it wrong, mine has a spring on the outside of the trigger housing that doesn't look like it does anything. I'm not confident in myself to tear the trigger assembly all apart but I wish I could find some better pictures of the assembly. Was hoping maybe someone here could pull theres out and take some good close up pics from all sides. i would greatly appreciate it.
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Here you go... dunno if you can see what you need from these pics but I'm not taking this thing apart.
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richie
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1KPERDAY, Thank-you vary much, that is certainly a big help, I can see right off that a part is missing, Your pics are perfect, clear and sharp.
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Cool. Glad it helped.
The problem I have found with sear release on models 29,30,34 is that when the trigger is pulled the disconnecter is pulled down and when that happens the sear will not release.The spring tension on the disconnecter is critical (flat or wire) the disconnecter must only move forward.I also stoned a few thou.off the top of the disconnecter.All 3 are now gems,most accurate 22s I own.Anschutz on up
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Is the disconnector the u-shaped piece on the right side of the group?
richie
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Yes the 5th pic. down is the part that is missing from my trigger assembly. I got one on order from numrich, however I haven't recieved a notice that they shipped it yet.
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He said above there was a spring on the outside of the assembly that wasn't doing anything, so I assume the spring is present.
Who is Grandpa, by the way?
Who is Grandpa, by the way?
richie
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1Kperday is right, the spring is there, I couldn't figure out what it did, it just hung from the pin. I just recieved a notice from Numrich that they mailed it today, so maybe monday or tuesday I'll have it. Hope that fixes the problem. I can't see anything else thats missing, the pics are vary good and when enlarged are still sharp so I can see that everything else appears to be there. Can't thank 1Kperday enough!!!!!
richie
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Well, I recieved the part late monday afternoon, waited till tuesday to install, took it to my uncles house and we compared it to his mod.29, and it was the same. The part came with a note saying it needed to be fitted, so we compared it to his and filed the appropriate areas til we finaly got it to fit and not bind the firing pin assembly. However it still would not fire. We noticed that the part had a little less metal on the arm that tripped the sear when we compared it to my uncles. His part worked perfectly in my trigger assembly, so that had to be the problem. Took it home and mixed up some J B Weld and applied a small dab of it on the arm and set it aside to cure.The next day I reinstalled it and it works perfectly now. So 1Kperday, thanks for helping, your pics really helped me out.
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Wow! Incredible that you were able to figure out how to modify it. Nice job!
CR125Honda
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Hi All. New to the forum.
Thought I'd join in with my J.C. Higgins Model 30, (583.70).
It's been in the family since my grandfather purchased it new.
Personally put a few thousand rounds through it when I was a kid.
Dad, and brothers had their fun with it too.
I'd get a couple bucks to mow some lawns in the neighborhood and have cash for ammo. The local Ace Hardware sold a box of 1000 for $10.
Hop on my 1974 CR125 Elsinore (using the strap that retracts nicely in the stock) and ride the trails with my buddies to find a good place to shoot.
Lots of memories & good clean fun..
Considering it's age and amount of use it's gone through over the years, it's in pretty good shape.
Just pulled it out of storage.
Shot some rounds and had a few failure to load, a couple failure to eject and failure to fire.
Working on the cartridge lifter for the load issue.
It wobbles on the pin a bit much causing the cartridge to get wedged between the lifter and the magazine throat.
Got a new pin on order (Numrich), no luck finding a new lifter.
Probably going to peen around the hole to tighten it up and possibly widen the area where the lifter contacts the cartridge (weld/file,etc.).
Took the ejector out of the bolt. Cleaned, lubed, etc.
Thoroughly cleaned the inside of the receiver, paying close attention to where the ejector rests. Pulled lot's of gunk out of there.
I think the few failure to fire's were caused by the old Remington ammo I have.
One of the rings on the original scope is broke.
Ordered a new ring from Numrich. Tried calling before purchasing but Obama must have their phone ringing of the hook. I couldn't get through.
We'll see if it's the right one when it get's here.
The tightening screw is also stripped.
It only goes about halfway through the hole. A new screw about 1/4" to 3/8" longer, would probably do the trick.
If anyone knows a source for the ring, give me a holler. It is original and clamps on to the scope base. Same for the tightening screw.
Regards, Ken
Thought I'd join in with my J.C. Higgins Model 30, (583.70).
It's been in the family since my grandfather purchased it new.
Personally put a few thousand rounds through it when I was a kid.
Dad, and brothers had their fun with it too.
I'd get a couple bucks to mow some lawns in the neighborhood and have cash for ammo. The local Ace Hardware sold a box of 1000 for $10.
Hop on my 1974 CR125 Elsinore (using the strap that retracts nicely in the stock) and ride the trails with my buddies to find a good place to shoot.
Lots of memories & good clean fun..
Considering it's age and amount of use it's gone through over the years, it's in pretty good shape.
Just pulled it out of storage.
Shot some rounds and had a few failure to load, a couple failure to eject and failure to fire.
Working on the cartridge lifter for the load issue.
It wobbles on the pin a bit much causing the cartridge to get wedged between the lifter and the magazine throat.
Got a new pin on order (Numrich), no luck finding a new lifter.
Probably going to peen around the hole to tighten it up and possibly widen the area where the lifter contacts the cartridge (weld/file,etc.).
Took the ejector out of the bolt. Cleaned, lubed, etc.
Thoroughly cleaned the inside of the receiver, paying close attention to where the ejector rests. Pulled lot's of gunk out of there.
I think the few failure to fire's were caused by the old Remington ammo I have.
One of the rings on the original scope is broke.
Ordered a new ring from Numrich. Tried calling before purchasing but Obama must have their phone ringing of the hook. I couldn't get through.
We'll see if it's the right one when it get's here.
The tightening screw is also stripped.
It only goes about halfway through the hole. A new screw about 1/4" to 3/8" longer, would probably do the trick.
If anyone knows a source for the ring, give me a holler. It is original and clamps on to the scope base. Same for the tightening screw.
Regards, Ken
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Beautiful wood on that old workhorse!
When you removed extractor, was there a spring behind it? Sometimes they fly out and people don't realize it's supposed to be under spring tension. Good luck with the lifter and let us know how your repair goes.
When you removed extractor, was there a spring behind it? Sometimes they fly out and people don't realize it's supposed to be under spring tension. Good luck with the lifter and let us know how your repair goes.
CR125Honda
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Thanks 1K..
Yep. That's one of the areas I just worked on.
There's a spring, extractor plunger (below), and finally the extractor (single claw) on this model.
The plunger is grooved and has to be in the right position for the extractor plunger retaining pin to fit through the bolt.
The retaining pin also has a flat side to it that has to be positioned correctly to fit through the bolt hole.
A pin without a flat side would be stopped by the plunger.
Figured that out 30 some years ago when I made a new pin out of a nail...
Just made another one out of a drill bit.
The repair is going well so far. Waiting for some parts from Numrich.
Thanks again, Ken
Yep. That's one of the areas I just worked on.
There's a spring, extractor plunger (below), and finally the extractor (single claw) on this model.
The plunger is grooved and has to be in the right position for the extractor plunger retaining pin to fit through the bolt.
The retaining pin also has a flat side to it that has to be positioned correctly to fit through the bolt hole.
A pin without a flat side would be stopped by the plunger.
Figured that out 30 some years ago when I made a new pin out of a nail...
Just made another one out of a drill bit.
The repair is going well so far. Waiting for some parts from Numrich.
Thanks again, Ken
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Is it clean? Check the extractor. If you remove the extractor and it goes into battery, you know the extractor or the extractor cutout in the barrel is to blame. Another thing to check it make sure the ejector/tab that's dovetailed into the left side of the receiver is not moving around. if it's loose it may hang up the bolt.
Feels like the hammer is causing pressure on the rear of the bolt. Everything is smooth until you put action back in. Would that still be an extractor issue?
Thank you for your assistance. I would like to get this one up and running to give to my youngest, as I got it from my Dad.
Thank you for your assistance. I would like to get this one up and running to give to my youngest, as I got it from my Dad.
soonerfan85
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I was all set to buy a 31 at an estate auction last year thinking no one else would be interested in it. I liked the fact it looks different from other semis. With the charging handle on the left, it favors the Remington 552 Speedmaster. Anyway, the dad burn gun sold for nearly $200. My limit was $100. Don't you just love gun auctions! 
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