The Marlin 1894 Club

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1894 convert to PG

I have looked for years for the elusive 1894 44 mag with a PG. Gave up and converted mine. Marlin will do this for a fee ($350) if you send the rifle to them. the problem is they will not sell the trigger plate. Factory only. the PG trigger plate is thicker at the stock end than a straight stock. I bought a 35 rem Marlin for parts to determine what would have to be done to convert the 94. it was rather simple. Rather than destroy a fine 35 I chose to buy new parts. Buy a stock for a 35 rem or 444 and a finger lever for the 1894. the stocks will swap. but the finger lever must be cut, bent, and additional metal welded to make it work. the new peice I added made the finger lever larger to be able to wear gloves. My hands are rather large and I would have to take off my gloves to shoot. I started to make a John Wayne loop but chose not to. bent the finger loop to look close to a stock 1895 following the stock. but open the space to fit me. this is not an amatuer job. It takes time and patients to cut bend file sand and blue the finger lever to look right and function. it works great and I have the fit I prefer. because of the modification I have kept the old parts and told my children if they sell the rifle to convert it back to the original style. For less than $200 I have a fine deer rifle that took three deer this year. the mod made no difference to the accuracy of the rifle. If you are capable in the shop you can do this your self if not have amachine shop make the finger lever changes.
 
I bought mine to shoot lead at deer. Ashley ghost ring and front post with vacuum tube insert.
 

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1894 cp's (ported 16 inchers) in 357 and 44 mag. Also have 25-20 cl and newer 32-20. Small light quick pointing rifles. Accurate and easy to clean. Mild loads in the 357 and 44 mag are like shooting 22s. Unfortuantely, Marlin's quality control has been spotty over the recent years (IMO).
 
I've had two, both .357s: an 1894CSS that I traded off, and the 1894C that I kept. The stainless model was okay, but the sad truth is that I don't like stainless guns. Plus the action and wood on the C are both nicer than the CSS.

James
 
Chief RID nice rifle and deer.

zeke and Jalexander welcome aboard.
 
I'd like to join. Finally picked one up about a year ago. One of the new 1894CSS models - and just before the move, too.

It's been a great little gun. One of my favorites, to be sure.


Still love my 336, and had it a lot longer. It's definitely more gun, without a doubt

That being said, I think I could bag a deer out to 100 yards with a good .357 load if I wanted. And for casual plinking, .38s can't be beat. It's a lot easier to get .38 in bulk than it is .30-30.


Got a stainless Skinner peep and a very wide aperture. I'm happy.
 
Not an owner yet, but a .357 1894 is my next planned long arm purchase. Some advice would be appreciated.

As I live in Australia my local gun shop will have to order one in for me, so I won't be able to handle the blue & SS guns side by side.

Could those with experience of both variants let me know if one material is better than the other as far as cycling smoothness, is the stainless actually more rust resistant than the blued variant (I've seen stainless rust), is the stainless less prone to the Marlin jam? I've read reports of .38 specials not being the best at feeding. Is this more or less of a problem in the SS gun?

I'm looking at $1250 for the blued gun, $1450 for the stainless. I can buy a 336 for $850, but I am recovering from a broken back, so a light pistol caliber gun that I can later hand load for more power is more appealing to me. I already have the tools to load .38/.357.

Main use will be walking up shooting of bunnies, hares & foxes with the possibility of goats & pigs when I am recovered enough to walk the hills.

What red dot & mount would you recommend? Going prone behind a scope won't be an option for me for a while, so I plan to shoot off hand, keeping all shots within 100m, most likely 50m to ensure humane despatch.

I'll be funding the purchase by selling one of my IPSC pistols as I won't be running and gunning for the next 9 months. Thanks in advance, I'll post pics of the new rig when I have it in hand.
 
Ouch and ouch Radagast, I hope you have a speedy and safe recovery. Due to your cuurent condition I'd want to keep the weight down so as to to place unduw strain on my back. So I'd go with a good set of peep sights or if you must have a red dot I'd go with something like these. They should be able to use a standard weaver type base for mounting them. I'm not 100% sure though as I've never been interested in reflexive sights on my lever guns.
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/default.aspx?productNumber=179627

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/default.aspx?productNumber=151224

I'd rather have a good set of peeps though as they don't require batteries in order to use them.
 
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Thanks for the links, I bought a no-name version of the tru glo about five years ago for my dad's 617, it cost me 5 times todays price! The reticle/dot isn't very uniform, and it sits high on the gun, so I wont get another for the rifle. The Burris looks interesting, quite compact and low profile, I'll probably check it out.
I do like ghost ring / peep sights as I spent years shooting Palma/ Fullbore and they look right on the Marlin. For the moment I think a reflex sight will be easier to use for fast off hand shooting and around dawn & dusk. It would also mean my father can use it. He's 76 and can't see irons anymore, a dot will help to maximise the time we can spend in each others company.
 
Here's a picture of my 1894C that I just brought home today. From what I can tell it's an '08, and the previous owner didn't shoot it all that much.

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Very nice seanie, let us know how it shoots for you.

BTW what ammo are you club memebers using in your 1894's if your not using reloads.
 
I'll be taking my 1894 CB in 45 Colt out to the silhouette match next weekend

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Last month I shot a personal best 34 (out of 40) with it and went five for five in the shootout on the turkeys. Not a typical performance for me but it's good to know the rifle in its stock configuration can hold its own.
 
Awesome shooting JustsayMo, let us know how next weekend goes for you.
 
You guys want to talk about 1894s?

Let's chew on this mystery for a while.

A friend of mine had a nice 1894 in .44 mag. Nothing special about it. Blue, no checkering... nice little rifle.

So he brings it out to the range one day while I was shooting my 39As. I guess we were gonna do the cowboy rifle thing.

He buys some Remington UMC stuff in the yellow box. Not sure of the weight.

So, I hear a case bouncing on the ground and I look down. There's this .44 mag case laying there next to my foot, and it has a great big split running down one side of it.

YIKES!:eek:

I get him to stop shooting, and we look at some more of the cases.

Probably a third of them are split. From the neck, down most of the case and stopping where the case thickens near the base.

I didn't see any other signs of excess pressure. The primers are flat, but not pushing out of the cases. The cases weren't bulged any weird sort of way. Extraction wasn't weird or sticky. The ones that weren't split looked completely normal.

It's gotta be the ammo, right? Improperly hardened brass or something? Are those UMC rounds reloads?

So, we walk into the range store and buy some Winchester stuff.

Pow! look at the brass. Cool!

Pow! look at another one. Cool!

Yeah, it was the ammo. We were starting to feel relieved. Pow! SPLIT CASE! :eek:

OK, so it wasn't the ammo.

So, it's gotta be a leaded up bore causing high pressure, right?

I took it home and gave it the old scrub-a-dub.

I got some green out of it, but nothing special and certainly no more than would be expected from any dirty rifle.

I ran one of those "Tornado" brushes through it and got no lead out of it at all. I'm convinced it had never fired anything but jacketed bullets.

When I was done it was squeaky, shiny clean. It looked like it was low mileage, and even had a nice crown on it. I would have bet money it would be a great shooter just looking at it.

And then my buddy traded it away at the next gun show. I never got to figure it out.

The next step was going to be measuring the chamber. It didn't feel loose when I put a live round in there and wiggled it around, but that's not scientific enough to really believe in.

Years later, in casually thinking about this issue, I've decided that the recoil might have been causing setback in the mag tube, and raising pressures.

I don't know what sort of crimping was going on with the ammo in question, and there's no way to even guess at this point.

Any of you ever see anything like that?

Anybody care to guess about the causes?

A little post-mortem forensics would be cool, but the gun and the bullets are gone now and all that remains is the memory.:)
 
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Frank, where the cases sooted at all?

One thing about Marlin 1894's and some 336 calibers is generous chamber sizes. Goof for feeding but hard on brass.
 
Here's my 1894 CB, in .38/.357 that I use for CAS. I bought this new a few years ago, to replace the 1894C that I was using (the octagon barrel just looks so much better, and actually swings better from target to target).

Just bought it a big brother, an 1894 in .44 Mag, to be used for SASS Wild Bunch matches.

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I'm one of the lucky ones' that has an 1894S in .41 mag to mate up with the S &W 657 mountain gun. Also picked up a CS at big -5 a couple years ago for cheap plinking & .357 load development work.
 
Whut-Izzit ??

My 1894 lever-gun ... Never mind. Thanks. Dao
 
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love the 1894!

Hi guys, long time lurker first time poster. Great place ya got yourselves here :D

I have been looking into buying an 1894 and cannot decide on which model to get. The journey has been fun and I almost regret pulling the trigger (pun intended) and picking just one.

So while doing some research I come across information about the Limited versions in .357 .41. .44 and .45 with the 16.5" barrel. Lo and behold I cannot find one around for sale so clearly they are out of production. I assume then, that if I find one, it will hold its value.

My question is this. If I can find one used, what would be a good price for an excellent example? It looks like I can get a new .44 SS for under $600. Would I be looking at a lot more for the Limited (not the cowboy limited BTW)?

I hate to barge into a forum and be that guy that just asks a bunch of questions, but as I get more involved and learn I hope to be able to reciprocate. Thanks in Advance!
 
I've got an 1894S in .45 Colt :D

I love that thing. It shoots inxpensive hard cast bullets beautifully. I'm looking to complete it with some tang sights. I had some Skinner ladder sights on it but it didn't go low enough for 100y shooting - eyes pretty much need them for past 50y.

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I have a 1894M, 22 mag. I mounted a bushnell 1X4 circle plex on it. Sighted in dead at 50 yrds, its great on squirrels with Fed 50gr. My next may be a
.357. Nicest handling gun I have used in a while.
 
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