The Mighty Mosin-Nagant!

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Hello,

After owning several different carbines, some black, some semi-black (a cherry Camp 45 comes to mind; got rid of it to a collector because I kept wanting to SHOOT it!), I have come back to the first rifle I owned, a Mosin-Nagant.

In Indiana, we cannot use rifle-caliber rifles for deer hunting, so I was raised mostly on slug guns and .22 rimfires. I always kept a shotgun around for defense.

Now, I've lived in the country for most of my 33 years. I was born in the country, and except for college, haven't left. I like stepping out the back door to shoot.

The Mosin-Nagant is capable, correctly set-up, of 1.5 to 1MOA groups, with sub-MOA groups not being uncommon.

I find it very efficient at knocking over whatever I need to knock over, and, having figured out "sticky bolt syndrome", I can work it as fast as a lefty can work a bolt action, and faster than I can work most bolt actions as, reaching over, I encounter a straight bolt instead of a bent bolt.

Though I prefer one handgun or another for home defense because it leaves one hand free, the Mosin-Nagant would be formidable, not for its rate of fire, but for its bayonet. I think anyone who has ever been in the martial arts (and most people who have not) can appreciate a long, pointy object on the end of a heavy wooden pole.

I do have plans to build a .223 precision bolt action that will match my Savage rimfire target/"squirrel sniper" rifle, and I will build a companion AR to the bolt rifle. However, the main battle rifle, I feel, will always have a place in my home, whether the rifle in question is a Mosin-Nagant, M1A or Garand, or even old Japanese Arisakas and German Mausers.

What say you? Do we still have folks here who enjoy old school, and utilize them for pest control purposes?

Josh
 
The Mosin-Nagant is capable, correctly set-up, of 1.5 to 1MOA groups, with sub-MOA groups not being uncommon.

just one question..........where exactly are you getting your Sub-MOA Mosins from?
 
just one question..........where exactly are you getting your Sub-MOA Mosins from?

A rifle with an excellent bore, handloads and a steady shooter will achieve sub-moa.

With any surplus round, no way!

I've scoped two Mosins and I got silver-dollar groups at 100 yards with Czech Silver Tip. It's capable of much better with the right ammunition.
 
The Mosin-Nagant is an accurate rifle, properly set up. You don't have to settle for mediocre accuracy, and neither do you need to make permanent changes. This is my how-to, and are the techniques I personally use. It is not unusual to see 1.5MOA accuracy from the Mosin-Nagant when using these techniques.

The first thing that should be done is to smooth the barrel channel using an appropriate sized dowel rod or socket from a ratchet wrench, wrapped in 320 or so sandpaper. When done, a straight edge should lay flat along the barrel channel.

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Lightly oil the cork bedding on both sides.
http://smith-sights.yolasite.com/article-accurizing-mosin-nagant.php

Not trying to advertise; I just don't have the bandwidth to post the entire thing. Suffice to say, set up as it was originally made to be, and with decent sights or optics, it will do sub-MOA with 7N1 or, as was mentioned, reloads.

It comes danged close with silver-tipped, but I've not seen that forever.

I got lucky in that mine slugs out to 0.299"x0.309", so it shoots about the same with 0.308" or 0.310" bullets. I do have a long lead, though, which I do not like.

Josh
 
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My dad grabbed one of our three CMP M1's when we went hunting one time. Unfortunately for one deer, it walked out in front of his stand. Lets just say the ball ammo had no problems stopping the deer from moving very far, and pulled a good bit of the guts out the exit wound as well.
 
I had an old M39 Mosin - she was my baby, pre-theft. Absolute favorite rifle, and like a lost-pet, I cannot replace her. Truthfully, minus the fact that I'm mid five-feet and she was tall 4-feet, we made a GREAT couple. I could easily pry my spent shells at 50yards iron sights plinking, and the various "ballistic tests" on concrete bricks, dead batteries, water jugs, etc. (can you tell I grew up in the boonies? :p) were nothing short of impressive. It had a smooth, cupped-your-hand-just-right pistol grip, absolutely flawless 2-stage trigger, and a bolt that would rattle less than a mauser bolt. It got sticky, yes, but this was a mosin. They like it Rough.
The hogback stock was a nice touch too, and the irons were just perfectly made (screw-adjustment, flip up for +350 arshin shooting). I could go on.

That said, there's a new old-school Scandinavian living with me, in the form of a M96 Swede. The Finn was like the hot rocker chick girlfriend, liked mosh-pits, could hold her own and was a scrapper and a half, and built like a brick outhouse. The Swede is more lithe, taller, and a bit more like a softer-touch model. Softer kick, smoooooth shooting, smoooth bolt, very...disciplined and dignified sort of rifle. Accurate as SIN, straight-stock took some getting used to (although the "pointing" action of the wrist was definitely a perk), and the weight was also somewhat heavy.
The down side, is over the wintertime, the upper sling clip broke while she was shouldered, dropping the muzzle from shoulder to ground before I could catch it...But, that's why we have aftermarket stocks, and pinning of old ones. :)

Dream match? a M39 chambered in 6.5x55 Swedish, in a Swiss K31 straight-pull action. :p
 
I make a living with an M-39. Czeck silvertips from 80's production puts my groups at about silver doller size.

Forget the bayonet, realize that the 7.62X54r denys cover that can stop a .223 or 9mm. Just go's right on through brick, sticks and wood like nothin'.
 
fellas, it is the equivalent of a 30-06, they are nice to collect and I have a 91/30 and a M44, but I would rather shoot an M1 Garand. Both of my M/N's have sticky bolts which I don't like, haven't had the time to smooth them up yet. Putting a scope on them for me is a no-no and I wouldn't do it. As far as accuracy, my Swede M96 is the most accurate WW2 bolt action and the M/N's will never equal it..
 
Sticky bolt is a result a dirty chamber.
It may look shiny clean, but S#!t shines sometimes after being squished at 28,000cpu.
 
I love my mosins, my first real gun was a 1891/30 long rifle that some russian soldier way back in the day carved his initials into the bolt, mag floorplate and buttplate. I've never tested it for accuracy, but with yugo surplus it has hit everything i have aimed at, including squirrels, deer, several coyotes, raccoons, and a possum that took three shots to put down..

They are great. Ever fired one below 0 degrees Fahrenheit? It is a religious experience.. Smoother than silk, krag-jorgensons or swedes...
 
I've got 4 of 'em 2 91/30's, a Finn m27 and a m44 all match w/14 notches and a Upsidedown swastika scratched in the buttstock. Seems like somebody could go to work with a 1-2" MOA!
 
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