The Mosin Nagant Club

[caribou]

15 guns,
Shooting all over, but shot fine before sounds like a shifty rifle.... are your screws on tight?
Loose screws, Bad metal to wood contact or binding, maby the handguard jammed.
Have you changed ammo?
Is your mount/scope rings on tight?
Is the scope OK?
Did you take a "Fouling shot"? I do every time I hunt, so I shoot consitantly with following shots as well as check my function and sighting.

If it was good before, I bet you can get it back on target, just keep checking and trying.

The Finns brought out the M91 Mosin to its Zenith, with the M-39 variation in my opinion.
Regardless, a Mosin in its issue stock and accessories is hard to beat. I carry an M-39 in its Finn issued nearly Everwhere I go, and Ive delt with alotta those issues I mention.....

Good luck.

 

[15guns]

Either the gun over heated or the scope can't take the power. One of the 2. I'm ready to just give this gun away. I already bought a new cetme so I have a decent gun to goof with now. The only problem with my cetme so far is that it won't feed 20 rounds probably because the spring is to new in the mag. I got 17 rounds in it and it has a hard time feeding the 17th one but oh well. Anyone want a free mosin nagant that needs work? Lol.

 

[caribou]

Free rifle? Wow......I guess I would be stuck between the fact that only accurate rifles are worth keeping, and the fact that you cant have too many guns.........
.........but then again, you could make it a "Project gun" 'cause with that rear sightbase removed, you'll need to do a bit of work.

Why not buy an issue Stock, and a properly made bent bolt, or just an original bolt body. I bet you would enjoy that rifle then...too bad about that rear sight, but pinning and sweating can do it right.



Now to get that CETME up to 100%, get yourself many, many more magizines if you can and part out any that dont work properly.

Heres my favorite Mosin in hand picture.

I have a few, but my lifestyle dosent have me enjoying them as I should in my old, house ridden age~~LOL!!!~~

 

[15guns]

Naw Caribou it's g3 mag time for that gun. Plus a good cleaning should do the job. : ) I got 17 rounds in that mag now. The good one from century arms. It won't feed right with more than 17 right now. It's hard to get it to feed with the 17th round as it is now. I just want to take it out and test fire it sometime once. It's to long of a drive to the range for me and ammo and cleaning stuff costs to much for it. I just bought it because I've been wanting a semi auto 308 with a high cap 20 round mag for a while after seeing what I could do with them on a video game online. Lol. I love having that much firepower. : )

 

[alemonkey]

M39, one of my favorite rifles:



And a project rifle I've been slowly putting together. Heavy barreled Mosin target rifle....Don't ever buy a Mosin stock from Richards Microfit. It looked really nice, but it's not even close to fitting the action, and the inletting was crooked. I was impressed when I got it but after starting to work with it I'm not happy with it. For starters the stock is just too thick for the action - I had to cut it down a bunch to let the magazine & trigger guard match up to the receiver. Should be cool when I finally get it done, though. It's just mocked up here:

 

[15guns]

Cool stock. A Heavy Barrel? Where did you get that barrel from?

 

[alemonkey]

It's Lothar Walther. I know it's crazy to put a LW barrel on a Mosin, but I'm doing it because I can

 

[ifit]

alemonkey thats a sweet lookin accurized mossin how does she shoot?

got to shoot my mossin for the first time some range results

 

[alemonkey]

It's not done yet...hopefully I'll get it finished yet this summer. I started it about a year ago and kind of got stalled.

 

[dirtyjim]

a couple more of my mosin projects that i need to get back to work on.

a remington 1891 chambered in .220swift AI. the barrel is from a remington 722 that was originally in .222. i rethreaded and rechambered it. reworked the bolt face,extractor and the ejector/interuptor.


heavy barrel project rifle. barrel is from a czech uk-59 heavy machine gun in 7.62x54r.
timney trigger, bolt handle moved to the rear and the gap in the rear bridge closed.
i still need to put a scope and mounts on it and decide on a stock.


another heavy barrel project rifle with a russian maxim machine gun barrel in 7.62x54r. i'm considering a winchester marksman style stock and redfield olympic sights for this one.



i'm also planning a 9.5x54r DG rifle, 22-250 and .308 mosin projects. i have the .22-250 barrel, i just need to rethread it and i have a heavy .308 barrel from a remington 700 coming that i'm going to rethread and i still need to order the .375 barrel for the 9.5x54r project.

 

[15guns]

ifit I can do better than that at 50 yards with my mosin when the scope is set. I was shooting at a body target though. First shot was a bullseye. Second shot was in between the orange and the white. I was shooting from a bench with a shooting bag. It was when I had my scope on the scout scope mount I used to have. And at 25 yards I got 1 bullseye and the second shot was in the orange. I think the factory iron sights suck on mosins. Did you put that monte carlo stock on it or buy it with it already installed? Those stocks are way to much of a pain to file down to get them to fit right.

 

[ifit]

15guns, friend i purchased it from had a scope and mount on it, did not want it, gets loose all the time. usually any rifle with a scope will shoot allot better. i wanted the irons back on, i find it more rewarding to see what i can do with irons. dont know but my trigger is really heavy. bought the rifle as is. as for the stock, i thought its original, i swear i saw some arsenal markings on it somewhere.

 

[Renegadewolf]

This is my 1929 Tula M91/30 Hex receiver. I would like to refinish but its still really cool to me. If anybody could message me and tell me how to make these small pictures bigger? I cant figure out how to find the URL of the pic either. But anyway her it is.

 

[caribou]

Renagadewolf, your pictures are plenty big enough, just click on 'em when you want them bigger

I like the Finn M-28/30 and M-39 sights best on Mosin.

Cool Dirtyjim, you actually hve the only "Swamped" barrel'd Mosin in existance!
I have lotsa Mosin "Junk", though I preferr "as issued" rifles, I do like reviving the butcher'd and the bubba'd.

Most of my great Mosin pix are in the Hunting section........

 

[15guns]

ifit my gun couldn't even shoot a bullseye at 25 yards with the iron sights on it and I had the bayonet on it as well and I had it on a bench with a bag in the front of it. That's very sad for a rifle with that long of a barrel on it. I knew it had to be the sights. Sorry ifit it was dirtyjims stock I was talking about. It looked like his posting was yours. Sorry.

 

[docnyt]

So you want to be a Mosin collector?

Found this on gunboards. Hilarious!

So you think you want to be a Mosin collector. That’s good, really. They are cheap, historic, and fun. But before you buy your first one, permit me to offer you the following advice.

1. Mosins are addictive. By comparison, a crack habit is like wanting a salty snack before dinner.
2. Every snow flake is unique. There are uncountable grains of sand on the beach. Mosins are sandy snow flakes. You’ll never get all the ones you want.
3. If we discussed Mosins in person, we would probably run each other through with our cheap, pointy bayonets over such pressing issues of the meaning of “MO” on a barrel shank.
4. Mosin collectors are one big, happy family….just like the Mansons.
5. Turn all of your finances over to a trustee. It’s the only way you’ll stand a chance of not stocking up on ammo.
6. Your wife will never, ever care about Mosin oil cans.
7. You will end up with more gun sleeves than underwear.
8. You will plan your errands around gun stores and pawn shops.
9. You will find the smell of cosmoline to be an aphrodisiac.
10. You will sneak guns into your house….and feel okay about it.

In a word, you are doomed.
Posted by AbueloMark

 

[SleazyRider]

Two questions for the club ...

I'm new to the MN world, recently purchasing a very nice 1928 hex MN, and have 2 questions:

1. The bolt works beautifully when the gun is not loaded. Should it be significantly tighter when it comes to chambering a round? It seems a bit stiff to close and open the bolt, at least in comparison to my modern bolt guns. One can definitely not maintain a cheek weld while chambering/rechambering a round. The chamber appears clean.

2. The arsenal shellac finish is a bit sticky on a hot day, especially with sweaty hands. Is there a "quick fix" for hardening up the shellac finish without refinishing the stock?

(Bonus question)

3. The safety is incredibly difficult to operate. My hands are not weak, but it seems that the spring tension to pull out the safety is inordinately heavy. Can I cut down or replace the spring to make this a bit more user friendly?

Hey, thanks guys!

 

[Renegadewolf]

The bolt is a bit stiff opening and closing but thats normal for MN it will loosen a little bit (not much) as you use it. The safety has a really tight spring and its just a matter of strength. Apperently the Soviet soldeirs were a bit stronger than previously thought! or they just didnt use their safety! lol

 

[Handgunner]

Here's my 1942 M38 and 1946 M44. Both are Izhevsk.

 

[15guns]

I don't own a mosin anymore so I'm not in the club anymore. I gave mine away to my local range master.

 

[Quickdraw McGraw]

I have mostly US WWII guns M1, M1 carbine and M1903A3 BUT I did pick acquire this fire breathin dragon a few months ago and I absolutley luv shootin it! Its a 1946 Izzy. She's dead on at 100 yds with the bayonet extend. Shoots about 12" dead left with it retracted.

 

[caribou]

First off a lesson on Mosin safety;

To apply or remove the safty you simply shoulder the rifle as if to shoot, then lower the butt to the crook of your arm, the inner elbow area, while holding the forarm with your left hand, release your grip from the stock with your right hand, maintaining the butt in the crook of the arm, grasp the cocking knob with your right hand and pull.
You will see a difference. K?
Easier and faster than sitting through this read

Sleazy, I'll bet $$ theres cosmo in your chamber, especcially if its elsewhere. It can actually be nice and shiney after many a firing, but since you must keep your chamber very clean on any rifle, I would get a 20 gauge shotgun bore brush and a git of good ol' gasooline and have a good scrubbing. A clean chamber keeps away "Stick Mosin Bolt Syndrome", and if you feel it getting stiff, clean the chamber.
I use Czeck ammo that is laquer'd and after 3-400 shots, I gotta scrub it up. Same gos if I take one shot with corrosive ammo and dont clean it for a few days~~LOL!!~~

Its easy to keep it clean after your first scrubdown, I use boiling hot water with some dishsoap to flush out the corrosive salts and the heat of the water on all the metal makes it very quick drying with no rust. A rinse with more boiling water, acouple patches and some oil and its good to go.The wood stays fine as well.
Cheaper than buying solvents, and always on hand.

If you like a nice collectable that you dont want to shoot much, then you gotta handle the rifle real nice like...but if you wanna shoot, hunt, carry around because you can, then that shellac is gonna come off.
It is there for the same reason as the Cosmoline, 'cept to protect the wood in storage untill WWIII, when the Cosmo is wiped away and the varnish is worn to be replaced with what ever oils were to be issued, in post nuclear damnation~~LOL!!~~

 

[SleazyRider]

That sounds like some straight shootin' advice, Caribou, and I thank you for your post. And to you Renagadewolf.

I think I'll strip that nasty orange shellac and give the wood a coat or two of automotive polyurethane (clear coat) after an appropriate sealer. Maybe steel wool it down a bit to avoid a hard shine.

 

[caribou]

Im glad to help.

I do have to throw out an opinion, regarding refinishing a great rifle

Better and more proper than a poly coat, is to Use a nice Tung or Boiled Linseed Oil brushed on a few times and dryed, after removeing the laquer. Remove the stock and oil the inside as well. This treatmet over the length of a couple days time will give you an ever lasting stock with a better grip 'feel' than a poly, which is irreversable after it sets. The oil will strengthen the wood, and not reduce the value of your rifle.
That is the proper treatment in any army up North.
I think the Finns used Pine Tar to darken their oil, Im not sure.
Alotta poly'd stocks crack from dryness and use, as well they have a 'slick' hold, something I dont care for in a rifle.

Either way , enjoy that Mosin!!

 

[kBob]

I have never understood difficulty in getting on the paper with a scope. One does not need a bore sighter. Drop the bolt out of the gun. Drop the gun onto a couple of sand bags or some holder or another. Choose a target as far away as posible. 600 yards is great, but I have used small objects at 200 yards such as the top of a fence post. Move the rifle and bags until you have centered the "target" in the bore of the rifle as you look through from the reciever end. Without moving the rifle adjust the scope to the same point of aim. Check both the bore and scope to ensure both are centered on the same target.

This should get you on a piece of 8 1/2 X11 inch paper at 100 yards/meters and from there you just make your fine scope adjustments

This is the orign of the term "Bore sighting" and does not involve a laser, magnets, or arbors.....

It is simple, cheap and works.

oh and I have a stock M 1944 I shoot when feeling a bit masocistic. I would love for someone to make a shell shrinker to shoot 7.62P in the 7.62x54 Mosins. Been considering one in 7.62P for .308 Win I think SPortsmans Guide had.

-kBob