The Odds of Being Murdered

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Wow... so those murdered few just have some awful luck :(.

p.s. I have a fire extinguisher sitting 10 feet away from me :what:
 
The odds of being murdered go up and down depending where you live or where you travel.

But they never go away.

Heck,people are getting staulked and murdered in National Parks because there simply is no law enforcement around and those victims are looked at as easy targets.
 
" wouldn't consider the Lane Bryant clothing store in Tinley Park, Illinois to be especially risky. I've been in the neighborhood on several occasions. That didn't stop six women from being shot in the head execution style there. Most of us wouldn't consider clothes shopping in a suburban strip mall to be especially "risky" either... but five of those six women are still dead."

The point is that the odds are never 0 but the odds of getting killed at the Lane Bryant store were less than getting killed if your in the south side of chicago after dark wearing gang colors. The odds of getting killed in school are low even with the Virginia Tech, Columbine etc. Thats part of the problem with congress making laws based on isolated incidents and not researching the whole picture. Somehow I think it is wrong to make a law that affects 100% of the people based on something that happened to a few or 1. You can't tell me that the GCA of 68 was not fallout from the Kennedy and King assasinations.
 
Your chances of being killed in Lane Bryant will go down considerably this year. Lane Bryant is a step away from being dying themselves.
 
My chances of being killed by lightning go down significantly if I avoid dancing on an open field during a thunderstorm waving a metal pole about. I may still be killed by lightning someday, but by exercising appropriate behavior I can significantly reduce the odds.

And so I refrain from doing my best Gene Kelly imitation on the soccer field in a thunderstorm.

Just as my behavior can impact that likelihood, so does my behavior of securing my surroundings and carrying viable means of self-defense help ensure that I'm less likely to be molested by goblins.
 
I read somewhere that late shift convienience store workers, taxi drivers and liquor store clerks are something like 11 times more likely to be shot on the job than a policeman.
 
Just once, I'd like to see a statistic that incorporates the "criminal history" of murder victims. Let's take a look and see how many of these "victims" have prior felony convictions for rape/assault/drug dealing. I'd like to know how many "murders" are actually drug deals gone wrong, gangs "settling scores", etc.

I've got a sneaking suspicion that if we could figure out how many people were killed while just "minding their own business" (as opposed to thugs killing other thugs), we'd see the "murder rate" drop quite a bit......
 
I'd like to know how many "murders" are actually drug deals gone wrong, gangs "settling scores", etc.
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I recall seeing something to the effect that about half of the murders in San Diego involved gangs.

Also, I've heard that stats involving people killed by "someone they know" include a lot of gang members.
 
Last year there were about 16,000 gun murders in the US. Half of those were committed by strangers. So figure about 8000 people were murdered by strangers in a country of 300,000,000. Playing with statistics this gives you about 1 in 42,000 chance of being murdered with a gun by a stranger.
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If someone wants to use this statistic to argue against gun rights, then you must include the number of murders which were PREVENTED by guns. Perhaps I have a 1 in 42,000 chance of being murdered with a gun by a stranger, but that does not mean I only have a 1 in 42,000 chance of being attacked or threatened with a gun. Because people carry guns in the U.S., many murders are thwarted, and not just confrontations; the very fact that concealed carry exists discourages crime. The same applies to home invasion. The TRUE odds of you being killed by a criminal stranger, or have your home invaded, if there were a complete gun ban, are MUCH higher.
 
I don't care if it is by a stranger or someone I know, I don't want to be murdered.
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And THAT'S the point. People have car insurance/spare tires/jumper cables, home owners/renters insurance, health insurance, smoke and carbon monoxide detectors, fire extinguishers, ipecac & activated charcoal/carbon for accidental poisoning, water/food/generators in case of all kinds of situations, situations that are very unlikely statistically to happen...

And we don't question the necessity for any of these preparations.

Why should preparations for Armed Assault, Strong Arm or Armed Robbery, Rape, Kidnapping, or Murder be treated differently? Are my possessions somehow more valuable than the safety or virginity of my daughters, or our lives? What in the world could possibly be going on in the minds of "antis" that their priorities are so skewed?
 
Half of those were committed by strangers.
Don't believe it. Source?
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You see the problem is there are many, many unsolved murders in the US. So often the relationship is unknown. We can speculate about the true numbers but since we will never know 100% we can only go with the numbers where the killer was known.
 
You see the problem is there are many, many unsolved murders in the US. So often the relationship is unknown.
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You should download the .pdf manual for UCR reporting and read how the data is gathered before you draw conclusions like that from the UCR.
 
What caliber for astroid,you asked? A .223 or .45acp should do nicely. There is that "overpenetration" problem to deal with though.
 
The creepiest statistic/probability in crime is the likelihood of being caught if you randomly select a person with whom you have no connection, and kill them without any witnesses and without leaving physical trace.

I don't recall it offhand, but it's vanishingly small. Practically zero, in fact.
 
And THAT'S the point. People have car insurance/spare tires/jumper cables, home owners/renters insurance, health insurance, smoke and carbon monoxide detectors, fire extinguishers, ipecac & activated charcoal/carbon for accidental poisoning, water/food/generators in case of all kinds of situations, situations that are very unlikely statistically to happen...

And we don't question the necessity for any of these preparations.
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Was trying to figure out to say this but Doc did a better job.
 
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