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The Roswell Knife.

Discussion in 'Non-Firearm Weapons' started by Roswell 1847, Dec 22, 2007.

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  1. Roswell 1847

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  2. DAVIDSDIVAD

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    Wow, man, that is a handsome knife!

    You forged it yourself???!?!

    You've got some talent
     
  3. ashgee

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    Looks great, congratulations. I have a self-made dagger which one of my ancestors took from a German in WW1. Difference is that one looks self-made, whereas yours doesn't. Nice work on the hilt, btw. Shrunken leather?
     
  4. proud2deviate

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    Mmm, a thing of beauty.

    How long is it? Thickness??
     
  5. Roswell 1847

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    12 inches OAL with 71/2 X 1 3/16 Blade 3/16 thickness.

    Stacked leather washers , the tang is broad, the pommel is secured by a threaded brass fitting counter sunk into the Aluminum.

    An inspiration for the design was a German Dagger the father of a Friend brought back from WW2. That dagger was much more ornate and its handle and sheath were of wood.
    My Roswell blade is a mixture of several styles that have caught my eye over the years.
    I used the stock removal method, cutting the blade from a discarded chainsaw bar. The Bar was a heavy duty type made for real lumber jack work, I suspect it was Swedish steel perhaps Husqvarna.
    The Metal is very tough and springy and only slightly less hard than a file.
     
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    Very well executed!!
    Zeke
     
  7. DAVIDSDIVAD

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    that is really awesome, man.

    Kudos for you
     
  8. .44walkersabot

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    So!! You know a little about knives as well as guns, eh Mr. Roswell?! How did you get those stacked leather rings in place and pinned? Are they under great pressure?...Okay...
     
  9. Roswell 1847

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    You first cut out a number of oval disks from the thickest leather you can find, then use hole puncher to rough out a slot to make a tight fit around the tang.
    I cut the end of the tang to a narrow tab and threaded it for a small threaded brass fitting I had lying around. The pommel is counter sunk so you can't see it. The fitting is cylindrical with a slot cut across the top, I slotted the head of a screwdriver to fit.

    I dampened the washers and slipped them on the tang one at a time, chosing larger or smaller ovals was I went to suit the profile. , then bolted them down tightly. If a stack of washers feels lose just add another washer and tighten again.
    When dry I carved them to final profile and used coarse sand paper to finish the surface fairly smoothly. I then used edge dressing which is for the edges of leather soles or belts, and burnished with a piece of wood.
     
  10. SeanSw

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    Beautifully executed. I am surprised the steel is hard enough that it won't need heat treatment, let us know how well it holds up under use if you ever decide to test it.
     
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    Well since its designed more as a killing blade than for peeling taters I'm not likely to tell anyone if I ever do use it.

    The Chainsaw bar it came from was designed and tempered to withstand the tremendous (or maybe TREE-mendous) forces of a twisting, settling, and sliding of a tree trunk thicker than your body. So its extremely tough and springy to avoid breakage.
    As I mentioned a new file could barely cut this metal and I wore out several just doing the final shaping after grinding.
    I finished the blade using progressively finer silicon carbide papers glued to flat hardwood, then Steel chalk valve polishing compound impregnating cloths tightly wrapped around flat hardwood.

    The blade is actually mirror finished but the scan doesn't pick that up well.

    I'd estimate that the blade as is is as hard as any pre 1960's hunting knife. Not as hard as those bolt cutting Buck knives, but adequate for practically any use you'd want to put it to within reason.

    Were I to re heat treat the blade I'd cover the blade with clay and thin down the clay as the edges like the Japanese did their Samurai blades. The toughness of the blade counts more for me and it comes with the original piece of steel, otherwise I'd have annealed the steel before working with it and re tempered it later.
    I've made a few knives from files by annealing the brittle steel and re tempering afterwards. They worked out well but were nothing special.
    I did make one that you could whittle a steel bolt with like sharpening a pencil.
     
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    Think you could make another? If so, how much would you be willing to sell it for?
     
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    Not likely that I'd ever try to make another , and if I do make another knife I'll be exploring different blade styles.
    I have the remaining sections of the Chainsaw bar and one side is long enough for a short sword or a Main gauche. I may give it a try one day.

    As it is my hands aren't up to the task these days. Old injuries have reduced mobility and precision of movement over the years.

    If I had a fully equiped shop I could still produce work worth the time involved, but making things by hand has always been a personal test for me.
    I just had to prove to myself I could do it.
     
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    Wow, verrrrry nice!

    It has a great shape and eye-balance. Very nice sheath also. Doesn't look "hand-made", it has perfect symmetry and finish.

    I can't even imagine how difficult it is to make a high quality dagger. Both sides and edges have to be identical and perfectly on center.

    If I were to try that I'd probably end up with a steel toothpick with a huge handle.

    AWESOME!!!
     
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    That's beautiful. Where can I get something like it?
     
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    Thats the beauty of handmaking a knife to suit yourself, you know that you have something unique.
     
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    damn fine knife :)

    im coming to steel it *jumps into viking ship*
     
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    Ultrachimp,

    It looks very incidentally to me like a gerber mark II or a CS peace keeper... But Roswell's is custom so your options are to fork over enough money to change his heart, or try to get written into his will :)


    I think I understand why custom knife guys are also steel freaks now.. I would feel very, very guilty for a very, very long time if I managed to chip something i'd spent so much time on.
     
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    Go into business, dude. Everyone that sees that wants to buy it. Would make for a profitable sideline...
     
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    Very nice work! :)
     
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    Well done!
     
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    Figured I'd add a detail of the construction.

    I chose some discarded Saddle skirt leather for use in making the Leather washers for the handle.
    This leather had been on the bottom of a pile and gotten wet and dried out several times so it was ruined for its intended use.
    I boiled the leather to disinfect it and remove as much of the oils as possible before starting.

    If you can see it from the image the leather closest to the guard has a slightly different appearance. Its darker in the grain below the surface. This piece of leather was much stiffer than the rest so I used it near the guard where the washers are thinned at the edges.

    By boiling out the waxes and oils the leather was made more absorbent, so the thin Boot heel and sole edge dressin I used would soak in deeply sealing and toughening the handle.

    The Guard and Pommel are hand cut and filed from a slab of Aircraft grade Aluminum/ Magnesium alloy I got from a guy that builds Dragsters and Hotrods. Its about 3/8 inch thick.

    The handle is light so the knife balances perfectly at the ricasso.

    The knife weighs about 3/4 as much as you'd expect. Theres not a wasted gram of material there.
    The tang is nearly as wide as the blade for ultimate strength.

    I might just contact a knife maker to see if this style is unique enough to warrant production, at least on a limited scale.

    It might make a good signature blade for Highroad members.
     
  23. Brian Williams

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    REAL nice knife, I made one with a similar shape by grinding an old file that I anealed and never got tempered.
     
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    That's a hell of a nice piece, esp given it's humble beginnings.

    Fine job.
     
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