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Discussion in 'Blackpowder' started by ClemBert, Aug 11, 2010.

  1. Grousebuck

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  2. ClemBert

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    It takes a bit of effort to force 40gr of FFFg into modern .45 Colt brass...drop tube plus compression.

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    I'd like to join your ROA club. Attached is my admission ticket !

    Rob
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  4. Patocazador

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    That's a fancy ticket. I've never seen one that had that much engraving.
     
  5. Michigan Mike

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    Ho lee chit.....beautiful.
     
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    TAMU1980

    Beautiful...exquisitely beautiful! Thanks for sharing!
     
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    My oh my, someone has deep pockets and a conversion cylinder to boot. Color me green.
     
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    That's real purty!
     
  9. Michigan Mike

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    20180607_121324.jpg 3 and 6 grains of Unique powder with my 230 grain lead bullets from a Lee 2 cavity mold.
     
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  10. Michigan Mike

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    I tested 3 grains just to see what the low end looked and felt like.
     
  11. Patocazador

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    What did you use for a backstop?
     
  12. Michigan Mike

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    I used a .22 cal bullet trap. Its always held up to BP rnds and low power cowboy loads.
     
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    Screenshot_20180607-191101_ADM.jpg It looks like this except its all welded. Older model.
     
  14. Patocazador

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    By shooting into a metal plate with pure lead, you really aren't getting an idea about how the bullets would expand on game or learn anything about penetration. I don't know what you are trying to show since soft lead hitting hard metal will flatten regardless of the load.
     
  15. Michigan Mike

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    Not showing anything here. Just shooting and recovering lead.
     
  16. Leadhound

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    What conversion is this?
     
  17. Michigan Mike

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    Kirst .45 Colt. Very fun to shoot and reload for.
     
  18. ClemBert

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    Sometimes I'll do 8gr Unique and a 250gr lead bullet for my Howell cylinder.
     
  19. Grousebuck

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    Which conversion cylinder is considered the best? OR, is there really no difference??
    TIA
     
  20. ClemBert

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    I don't know that there are that many folks who own both the Kirst and Howell conversion cylinders for a ROA. I own the Howell for my ROA and a Kirst for my Walker. Quality of both is excellent although the firing pin fell out of my Kirst and I had to send it back for repairs. I like the look of the Kirst better in SS for my SS ROA but I bought the Howell for it because I felt like it would probably install easier than the Kirst. On the Kirst backplate it has a flat side on the bottom that has to install on the bottom. Whereas the Howell is fully round and "rolls in" regardless of the position of the backplate. Other differences are that the Howell has a firing pin for each cylinder...yes, 6 total firing pins whereas the Kirst has one. I would not hesitate to buy either product...it'll come down to personal preference on appearance, cost and your perception of the flat side vs the 6 firing pins. BTW, the firing pins are easily replaceable on the Howell by unscrewing a retaining bushing whereas the Kirst the pin is meant to be "permanent". Your choice....you can't go wrong either way.
     
  21. Grousebuck

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    Clembert,
    Thank you for the information.
    Any input on the Taylor Conversion Cylinder?
    Are there any others??
    Thank you again.
     
  22. Michigan Mike

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    My only experience is with the Kirst. I love it.
    You are a wealth ok knowledge Clem. Do you think that the loading lever should be left off when firing to prevent damage?
     
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    HAPPY FATHER'S DAY!
     
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    (Don't read this until tomorrow)
     
  25. ClemBert

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    There are only two designs as I recall. Kirst or Howell. Taylors doesn't manufacture anything. They are an importer, distributor and retailer

    As I recall they bought exclusive rights to sell and distribute Howell products some time ago. Not sure if the relationship has changed. But, there are only two choices.
     
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