The Southern Poverty Law Center doesn't like my books--boo hoo

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AZEX, for all that you're correct, and for all that I'm sympathetic to your comments, I'm afraid that when you're talking about large groups of people and their language usage, you're stuck with the common usage.

The problem in part is in laziness in using identifiers. For instance, in my area of Texas along the Rio Grande, it is common for US citizens of Latin descent to say, "He's a white guy," or, "He's a Mexican guy," when describing some third person. And they're as likely to use "wetback" as an identifier as any Gringo.

Art
 
AZEX:

"Mexican" is not a race. Never has been, never will be.
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Bingo! You have to be especially careful in this area (Northwest Arkansas). We're only about 50 miles from Tahlequah, OK, the capitol of the Cherokee Nation. (The street signs are in both English and Cherokee, which I think is way cool.) The last thing you want to do is mistake a Cherokee for a Mexican. They get really mad! (I've got lots of Cherokee friends and some Cherokee blood is in most of the families around here, so I know.)

The only proper answer to "what race are you?" is "Human."
 
NEGATIVE!

You can call a Pig a dog, you can put a collar on it, microchip it, let it live in your house with you and name it "SPOT" but it's STILL A PIG.

The language MEANS SOMETHING, use it wisely.

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That's fine. I've got my own board and I call it like I see it.

D.
 
Are they on the Mexican side or what?
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No. If you dig around a little bit you will find hundreds of stories of often intense and bitter black vs. latino violence. Black neighborhoods that have been in place for a hundred years are suddenly finding themselves taken over and pushed out of home and work by Mexicans. That doesn't sit too well. Since the government does absolutely nothing to stop the flow of illegals, the inevitable result is violence and more violence. We have not seen the end of it.

I like Mexicans in general, and I think the nation (and its food) has been enriched by the centuries old tradition of cross border flow. But what's happening now is completely different. We're seeing not friendly exchanges over the back yard fence, but the creation of an enormous new underclass the likes of which hasn't been seen in this nation since the end of slavery. It's bad for us, and it's horrible for Mexico. Instead of staying there and pressuring the deeply corrupt government to straighten up, the nation's people just head north to be our servants. It's gotten so bad there are millions of people "missing" off the Mexican census rolls! The flow has depopulated whole communities of young men. And it's turned us from a hard-working nation that's not afraid to get dirty into a nation of soft, worthless men who can't even do their own gardening without swinging down and picking up some illegals from the corner. BAD ALL AROUND!

We have a choice. We can either have a border with Mexico and keep it enforced or we can simply adopt the whole damn country as a new section of the US and allow any Mexican to become a US citizen and visa versa, with full rights and equal pay scales. The alternative presented by GW and his allies is the creation of a permanent underclass fueled by a toxic mix of big business greed and absurd racist dreams of Aztlan.
 
If you, or any company employ illegals, then you are committing acts of Treason against the Constitution, and People of the USA.

It constitutes an "ongoing criminal conspiracy", just the type of thing that RICO laws were written to address.

RICO-Not just for Italian-Americans.

D.
 
I don't know a ton about the SPLC, but I know enough to say that they at least do some good. Without a doubt, the NRA also has its share of cringe-worthy moments, but I still support them.

As for Reconquistas, I can't say that the threat is anywhere on my list of concerns, and not because I'm prepared for it. That type of conspiracy-theorizing does wonders for the gun-control movement.
 
Beagle-zebub said:
As for Reconquistas, I can't say that the threat is anywhere on my list of concerns...
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That might be because your profiles states you live in Illinois. Come on down to DFW and get a dose of our reality in the southwest.
 
So the facists at the SPLC don't like it... Hell, I'd put a snip from that on the cover as a positive book review.:evil:

Hell, you should see their review of Unintended Consequences. They go out of their way to make it seem racist, when anyone who's read the book knows it isn't.

The SPLC is as much a bunch of bigots as the idiotic klanners and skinheads they villify. The only difference is they (mis)use government guns to do their violence.
 
"I don't know a ton about the SPLC, but I know enough to say that they at least do some good. Without a doubt, the NRA also has its share of cringe-worthy moments, but I still support them."

Apples and oranges, beagle-zebub. You can find very darned few NRA cringe-worthy moments. Since the late 1970s or mid-1980s, the SPLC has been erroneous a high percentage of the time.

"As for Reconquistas, I can't say that the threat is anywhere on my list of concerns, and not because I'm prepared for it. That type of conspiracy-theorizing does wonders for the gun-control movement."

First off, it's not a conspiracy. It's very open and above board and is well-known to those in the southwest. The absence of cultural assimilation is generational, and has now become deliberately resisted.

"I can't say that the threat is anywhere on my list of concerns"

The trouble with that is, for instance, I can say the same thing for myself about terrorism. Look up Terlingua on a map of Texas, there at the west edge of Big Bend National Park. I don't have concern about a mall shooting or a refinery explosion or an aircraft flying into a building. But should I have concern for problems and threats in other parts of the country? I am, after all, a part of this entire society in which we live.

A threat to you, indirectly, is a threat to me.

And those who are persuaded by SPLC's anti-gun stance and its mis-labelling as terrorist of such groups as the NRA are threats to us all--not just to the sales of Matt's book.

Art
 
I have a question for those who are worried about the reconquista phenomenon:

Self-evident as it is that the federal government (carrying out the will of most people in the USA) will slaughter any number of people who try to secede from Union, regardless of the race/creed/rationale of the secessionists, what do you think will become of this reconquista movement if it hypothetically made it to that critical point? (And no, I'm not saying that the Civil War wasn't about slavery, because each person who fights makes up their own mind as to what the war means to them.) Mexicans are smart enough to figure that out the inevitable outcome, too, as if anything close to the necessary percentage of Mexican immigrants came to America in order to reconquer it rather than to flee their dumpy homeland.

Sure, you can show me evidence that there are people who are advocating and planning a reconquista-type operation in the Southwest, but I can just as easily show you the campaigns of Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich, or a movie like "Jesus Camp"--in all these cases, a movement is afoot that is quite sizable, and seems radical and threatening to the majority of Americans and their way of life, but that doesn't have remotely enough support to accomplish its goals. Certainly, it is difficult to mark the point where a bunch of ineffectual crackpots (the reconquistas, in this case) becomes the next National Socialist Worker's Party, but it's probably around the time when the next SA is shooting it out in the streets with their opponents or marching around major cities in uniform--you know, like actually happened in Weimar Germany.

Sure, I live in Chicago most of the time, but I do so in a dorm with people from Dallas, Houston, Sugarland, Austin, Santa Fe, Phoenix, San Diego...these are smart people who are by no means blinded by leftist ideology (okay, the one from Santa Fe is), and they have never reported any rumblings of nascent nationalist rebellion among the Mexican population; for that matter, neither has my cousin, who is a hyper-conservative former marine and Flagstaff cop. Time may vindicate you guys, but I'll be no less prepared for such an event than I would be if I thought there were a snowball's chance in Tucson of Mexicans trying to retake part of the Southwest.
 
That might be because your profiles states you live in Illinois. Come on down to DFW and get a dose of our reality in the southwest.
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Dose of what reality? I live in San Diego and I used to live so close to the border in Chula Vista that I could see the city lights of Tijuana and the Massive Mexican Flag that flies in over the city. I have yet to get in a shootout with Mexicans. I have never been unable to conduct business without knowing Spanish. I have never been robbed, raped, or maimed by Mexicans.

Exactly what reality are you talking about?

Im about as concerned with reconquistas taking over the Southwest as I am with Islamic Jihadists subjagating us all and converting us to Islam. They can talk and they want and have all the dreams they want, in the end, it's just talk and stuff people write fictional novels about.

I have seven battle packs of SA 7.62 here.. When I get down to my last pack, Ill come on here and make a post warning you guys that the sky has fallen. :)
 
Beagle-zebub said:
Self-evident as it is that the federal government (carrying out the will of most people in the USA) will slaughter any number of people who try to secede from Union, regardless of the race/creed/rationale of the secessionists, what do you think will become of this reconquista movement if it hypothetically made it to that critical point? (And no, I'm not saying that the Civil War wasn't about slavery, because each person who fights makes up their own mind as to what the war means to them.) Mexicans are smart enough to figure that out the inevitable outcome, too, as if anything close to the necessary percentage of Mexican immigrants came to America in order to reconquer it rather than to flee their dumpy homeland.
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Given the current sensibilities of our country, I deeply question the idea our govt. would slaughter any people who wish to secede from the union. Geeesh, we're wringing our wrists in guilt because we're keeping Al-Qaeda terrorists confined at Gitmo ... and there are people who think the government would have the spine to slaughter secessionists?????

Beagle-zebub said:
Sure, you can show me evidence that there are people who are advocating and planning a reconquista-type operation in the Southwest, but I can just as easily show you the campaigns of Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich, or a movie like "Jesus Camp"--in all these cases, a movement is afoot that is quite sizable, and seems radical and threatening to the majority of Americans and their way of life, but that doesn't have remotely enough support to accomplish its goals.
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Just because a movement isn't strong now doesn't mean it won't be in the future. Look at Hitler's brownshirts. At the beginning of Hitler's political career, he was arrested and tossed in jail, where he wrote Mein Kampf. Of course, no one vested any credulity in it, because it was only some nutty book written by a loon in a prison cell. People dismissed it -- just like you're dismissing the "Reconquista" movement. BUT...look at what became of that nutty loon who wrote drivel in a prison cell. I bet a lot of Germans wished they'd paid more attention to that silly antisemitic book after the fact....
I'm not saying Reconquista will grow to Nazi proportions in America. I'm saying you are wrong in being so dismissive of it.
If everyone ignores reconquista, and does nothing ... maybe it WILL grow to Nazi like proportions out in the southwest. Indifference to our enemies is always a great asset -- to the enemy.
 
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