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The THR Walker Club

Discussion in 'Blackpowder' started by scrat, Feb 18, 2008.

  1. scrat

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    email already sent....... received........replied.


    Thanks
    Harris
     
  2. Rogeld

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    New to the forum so Hi everyone.
    Ordered a Uberti Walker from Cabela's. They back ordered the gun. 3 weeks now. Is there a short supply of them?
     
  3. Hoof Hearted

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    Welcome!

    Cabela's sold out over Christmas and I'm sure the Italians are working as fast as they can! Cabela's is one of the largest dealers of Italian firarms in the world.
     
  4. Whitesongs

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    Hi All,
    Some of you may find this quite interesting.
    About 8 or 9 years ago Armi San Marco and Uberti produced a range of their balckpowder revolvers as 'air' guns. A British company called Brocock had developed a rechargeable air cartridge. You would charge these with a pump not too dissimilar to a bicycle pump. I bought an ASM Walker and Uberti Remington Outlaw. Both identical to the blackpowder versions although the cylinders were bored to accept a 22 cartridge.
    However, about 4 or 5 years back, because of increased crime involving firearms, the UK government decided to ban these 'airguns' as they believed they could be easily converted back into a 'firearm'. So they were banned and now require a full firearms licence to own.
    I've just found an 'air' Walker for sale in the UK -although this gun has been completely deactivated. Below is the link.

    All the best,

    Whitesongs


    http://www.dandbmilitaria.com/walker-colt-pistol--------sn-161-7425-p.asp
     
  5. junkman_01

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    I read the advertisement, but can not find anywhere that is says this was an 'air' gun. :confused:
     
  6. scrat

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    pretty cool. just cant imagine spending that much on something i cant shoot at the range
     
  7. Clermont

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    I seem to recall that the only Colt single action Brocock cartridge airgun produced was the one that copied Colt's 1873 Single Action Army revolver.
     
  8. Whitesongs

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    Junkman. No it doesn't mention it was an airgun. I think the company are trying to sell it as a 'real' Walker that's been deactivated. If you check the back of the cylinder on the photos you'll see there are no percussion nipples - not even the milled out partitions for them. The frame has also been milled out on the right side of the recoil shield so you can load the cartridges from behind the cylinder.

    When I bought mine they also had a Colt 1872 Army conversion which was pretty cool as it looked the part. But I just had to get the Walker!!!

    Cheers,

    Whitesongs
     
  9. Whitesongs

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    Just too add to this thread: As you all know, a Walker is heavy enough as a 44 cal. These 22 airguns had so much more steel left on the barrel it was incredibly heavy and difficult to hold aim with so much weight up front.
    The 'air' Remington Outlaw was a much easier gun to shoot.
     
  10. Whitesongs

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    Walker 1078

    Hi All,
    Was browsing the net and found an interesting Walker auctioned some years ago.
    It is civilian model serial number 1078. It is advertised as the 'Thumb print' Walker. 'Possibly Sam Colt's own thumb print'. There are some pretty good photos of this gun and after enlarging a couple I noticed a major repair to the barrel, although the barrel still retains a high percentage of blue - even around the repair. In my view, this gun has been refinished.
    I've no idea how much it sold for but I just wonder if the buyer is aware of this repair?
     

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  11. FreddyKruger

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    ok... how much play should there be with the barrel? ive put maybe 10-15 full loads thru my walker, the rest being 30gr, and ive notices theres play in the barrel with the wedge sitting as far out with the clip still in (if that makes sense?). i cant remember if i had it like that when ive shot it before or with the wedge in tight-ish.

    its got a cylinder gap of ~.010, but if i push the wedge in it as far as it will go, the gap goes down to ~.004.
     
  12. junkman_01

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    Your arbor is not the correct length. It's too short. The job of the wedge is to secure the barrel to the frame. It should not be used to adjust the barrel to cylinder gap. Until you correct the too short arbor, everything you mentioned is irrelevant.
     
  13. sltm1

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    Quick lesson on adjusting the arbor length:
    1. Take the barrel and cylinder off the receiver
    2. Put the barrel back on the arbor 90% off center
    3. Twist the barrel down till the bottom of the loading lever port is in contact with the receiver frame
    4. Measure how much overlap there is....that's how thick your shim has to be
    5. Make shim (steel preferably but brass if you must)
    6. File to slightly thicker than appropriate thickness to match overlap measurement
    7. Attach to arbor, (silver or lead solder or JB Weld)
    8. Put barrel back on arbor again at 90% rotate down and check for what will now be a gap between it and frame
    9. Remove barrel and file down shim till when turned down, the barrel just contact's the frame. Do this slowly in increments so's you don't do too much and have to start over
     
  14. ClemBert

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    If someone hasn't posted it yet then someone tell him what the ideal gap is for his Walker. :p

    As I recall, the end gap measurement should be 0.006 to 0.010. That is, measure the end gap with the hammer at half cock and the cylinder pulled all the way to the rear. The end gap is the gap between the face of the cylinder and the breech of the barrel.
     
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  15. Rogeld

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    The Walker finally got here. I was really surprised how good it looks.
    Now I can actually say, That's not a gun, This is a gun. LOL.
    Now I need to make the holster for it.
    Great reading on this forum.
     
  16. sltm1

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    Hey Clembert, Invented any cool stuff we gotta have for our BP guns lately?
     
  17. FreddyKruger

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    Something might be out of round? The barrel won't go 90 degrees or even just enough to be able to measure anything.
     
  18. ClemBert

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    Naw, I think that is probably common on Uberti Walkers. My Uberti Walker is the same way but my other BP revolvers you can check the arbor length using this method. Just get some steel washers and drop them in the arbor hole until you no longer can get the barrel on all the way then file the washers thinner to make it just right.
     
  19. scrat

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    I need to get one of those brass wrap around barrel loading lever holders. Last trip to the range the loading lever dropped. I made the dumb mistake of just pushing it up with out checking if the catch was aligned. Well now i have a two piece catch. i think this will be the 4th one i have replaced
     
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    OG #81 up for auction

    Hopefully she finds a good home.
    #1588 on auction

    D Company #81
    She looks great. a true survivor.



    http://jamesdjulia.com/auctions/div_catalog_320.asp?pageREQ=1

    http://jamesdjulia.com/auctions/catalog_detail_shots.asp?Details=45299&sale=320&lot=1588
     
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    C Company # 204 Surfaces

    Another beauty up for auction
    This has got to be the Holly Grail of Walkers with a history to back it up.
    C Company had 214 Walkers this is number 204
    http://jamesdjulia.com/auctions/div_catalog_320.asp?pageREQ=2
    auction number 2244

    http://jamesdjulia.com/auctions/catalog_detail_shots.asp?Details=42402&sale=320&lot=2244

     
  22. FreddyKruger

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    i made up a leather thing for mine. cost me nothing but about 5 minutes with a craft knife.
     
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    Tallship I remember the sale.

    A Company #210
    lot 2252. RARE AND HISTORIC COLT WHITNEYVILLE-WALKER PISTOL “A COMPANY # 210” AND ORIGINAL FLASK ISSUED AT VERA CRUZ IN 1847 TO PRIVATE SAM WILSON (TEXAS RANGER), LATER OBTAINED BY BREVET MAJOR GENERAL JOHN REESE KENLY OF MARYLAND AND BELIEVED TO BE THE FINEST EXAMPLE OF A MARTIAL WALKER EXTANT.
    (est.$500,000 - $1,000,000)
    SOLD: $920,000
     
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