The Tunnel Rat's Chief 36

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gizamo

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I buy a few guns now and again. I haunt the Kittery Trading Post in Maine...Fancy myself as a wannabe gunsmith and had been bugging the traders to find a "beater" that I could play with. So eventually a gun is set aside ...It is a little Chiefs 36 Special...

The gun basically looks worse then most anything the you've seen. Deep scratches, lots of the finish gone from the left side, seen some of it's share of rust ~and yet ~ it locks up tight, runs smooth, and has somehow been cared for over the years...Problem is the price is high for what the gun is worth...

So the debate about the price starts. And the salesman says let's take it to the trader that set it aside for you, John....Well John is asked the obvious ~ "How come so much money for a beater"

He looks at me and smiles. Says he didn't set it aside as a beater. Although that it what he thought at first. He thought worse of it ~ that it was a parts gun. Not anything they would normally put out on the shelf. So I asked again of my friend John, " Ok, why so much for a parts gun/beater? "

John smiled again ~ "because it isn't either~ it has a story...."

So my turn ~"Ok John, then tell me the story"....

From John:

A older man comes into the store, his son is with him. The gent is in a wheelchair, and appears to have suffered a severe stroke. He cannot speak, but has the ability to write notes to his son with one hand...They are there to sell Dad's guns...as it is time for Dad to move into assisted living. And so the deals are struck, with the Son acting as the go between with John, the buyer....Deals are made and go fine. Until Dad hands over the one gun he is carrying. John looks at the little 36 and writes it up. He looks up and the Old man is crying.... He looks at the Son, and ask if his father is allright...The son says he's OK, just that the gun was special to him. John says, well maybe the family should hold onto it. The son says that' allright....

John asks the Son ~ do you mind telling me why your Dad is so attached to the gun....The son says " I'm not really sure of the story, but my Dad and his men were what they called Underground men in Vietnam"

John is shaken by that.....and looks at the Father and asks....

"Sir, were you in Vietnam?" The Old man nods his head yes....

"Sir, were you involved with the tunnels" The Old man nods his head yes...

John later told me that he almost could not ask the last question, but he felt he had to....

"Sir, were you at CuChi" and the Old man smiled, and slowly nodded yes once again......





Giz
 
I purchased a very nice Model 36-1 today. It's in excellent condition and was produced in 1984. It's just a connector.

The most important friend that I have was a tunnel rat in I Corps for his entire first tour. For his second, he "worked in the woods" as part of the Studies and Observation Group out of Saigon. This fellow was the "alternate father" of my son, a recently retired Corporal of Marines.

gizamo, thank you for the story.

I can only hope that the Chu Chi guy can, somehow, sense my gratitude for what he did so long ago.
 
Most folks don't know what a Tunnel Rat is or exactly what they did.

This gentleman must've been in at the very first of the conflict. Most of the Tunnel Rats carried .45's in the later years.

The gentleman's son was an absolute ass for not keeping the gun. Could've pulled the firing pin to make it inoperable, put it in a shadow box with a few unit patches and given it to his Dad for his room at the retirement/assisted living center.

Jeff
 
Maybe some of us should pay your friend for what he paid the old man for his revolver and, then have him donate it to the Cody Musuem. That way everyone could look at it, hear the story, and enjoy it. They will display it with your friends name and the old mans name, and of course the story itself.
 
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Sometime I'll tell you the rest of that story. But know this. I spent a year tracking it all down. And I found the owner of the gun....and over a year he managed to type out the whole story. One paragraph at a time...

He contracted PLS (primary lateral sclerosis) ~ worse the ALS... and only has limited use of his hand....so we became friend over the internet...

Here he is back in the day....

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Giz
 
Huh, I know that guy.

I mean John (if you're talking the manager at KTP) not the other guy. Wish I did though. That's gotta be some story.
 
Great story....I learned something new today.

I've dealt with the guys at the trading desk at KTP on two different occasions and both times they were very courteous and fair in their valuation.

I get most of my reloading supplies there and won't hesitate to purchase off of their 2nd hand racks.

Basically those guys know their guns!!!

The manager (your John?) once told me that they often process over 1,000 FFL transactions a month.

The only gripe I have about KTP is the crowds....there's just way to many people there.
 
Aw~! The "Tunnel Rats" Of Viet-Nam

a different kind'a war; where boys became men overnight. "A solider,
sailor, or marine goes where he is told to go; and fights whomever
he is told to fight"- amended from the movie, "The Green Berets".

Thanks to all who served in any branch of the U.S. Armed Forces
during this 10 year war; and too those currently defending freedom
world wide.

S-A-L-U-T-E
 
Thank you for sharing. I didn't know that hey had set up a team of soliders to clear tunnels. I remember hearing about soldiers going into tunnels and being trapped or what not but very interesting story. I think I have a thing for the vietnam war.(seeing as I wasnt around during it, I find it incredibly intresting.) Please post the rest of the story!

BTW Ala reminded me to thank everyone who did live up to their call of duty and served. R.I.P to those who were lost.
 
The gentleman's son was an absolute ass for not keeping the gun. Could've pulled the firing pin to make it inoperable, put it in a shadow box with a few unit patches and given it to his Dad for his room at the retirement/assisted living center.

Yeah, but you don't know their financial situation. Assisted living is neither free nor cheap. In the end, it was the father's decision to sell the gun, not his son's.
 
Yeah, but you don't know their financial situation. Assisted living is neither free nor cheap. In the end, it was the father's decision to sell the gun, not his son's.

Vets--we take care of our own, and the son couldn't help but know that.

There are numerous VFW posts throughout Maine. LOTS of Maine boys have gone off to every war we've ever been involved in.

Would not have been hard to walk into a VFW post or American Leigion hall or Elks Lodge, explain his father's situation and what he'd like to have done with the old Model 36 and why.

What's more, KTP could hold a "raffle" or put up a donation box along with the story and they'd raise more than enough money to clean and restore this piece, frame it in a display or shadow box and present it to this old soldier on behalf of Kittery Trading Post's customers nationwide.

But nah, we're a throw-away society. We throw away our children we don't want. We throw away our elderly and senior citizens into various "assisted care" and "retirement" and "nursing" homes because we by-God can't be slowed down from our own fast and furious lifestyles.

Now we're throwing away our veterans--better than 20% of all homeless right now are veterans and collectively we're not doing a damn thing about it. Men (and some women) who gave all and now have nothing.

Then an opportunity comes along like this one to do something damn nice and appreciative . . . and nothing.

Oh well. If nothing is "in it for me," it's no wonder . . .

Jeff
 
gizamo - be glad you were able to get the provenance for that fine peice. Don't have it restored in any way, leave it just as it is. It looks like it went through a war and it did! It looses its historical significance if restored.

I had a similar 'story'. I traded a COP a 1911 that some lady bought in to the station to surrender. Her Dad was moving with her to California and she did not want to take his gun with her. Long story short, the 1911 was her Grandfather's that he took to Europe in WW1 and her Dad took to Europe in WW2. I begged that COP for her name so I could potentially contact her father to get the provenance before it was too late. He said he would send it to me but never did. I wanted to document it and then donate it to a museum somewhere.

However, never pay a premium no matter what the story is without provenance. I have heard some doozies!
 
Gents, no need to worry about the Vet or his son...They are both great guys. And are closer now then before. It is a great relationship and father and son are close....

Her she is...

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Gizamo
 
I was never in Vietnam and in fact never served in the military, but the guys that were tunnel rats definitely had balls of solid rock!!! Heard a story from a buddy of mine that was in Nam about an incident in a bar where some drunk GI's were making fun of another GI that stood about 5'6". Turns out this guy was a tunnel rat and proceeded to roundly pound 3 guys!

You couldn't run fast enough to give me that job!
 
Maybe some of us should pay your friend for what he paid the old man for his revolver and, then have him donate it to the Cody Musuem.

Awesome idea!!!
 
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