the USDA needs what?
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silicosys4
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From the USDA website
http://www.fs.fed.us/lei/what-we-do.php
"Uniformed Law Enforcement Officers (LEO) enforce Federal laws and regulations governing National Forest Lands and resources. As part of that mission LEOs carry firearms, defensive equipment, make arrests, execute search warrants, complete reports and testify in court"
"The basic mission of Law Enforcement and Investigations (LE&I) is public and employee safety, resource protection, enforcement of U.S. Criminal Law, and to provide enforcement expertise to other agency managers. The National Forest System Drug Control Act of 1986, as amended in 1988, and Title 16 of the United States Code (U.S.C.), provides authorization to the Forest Service (FS) for law enforcement activities relating to the Controlled Substance Act and Title 21 U.S.C. Subsequently, officers of the FS are charged with performing drug enforcement duties on National Forest System (NFS) lands or in areas with a nexus to NFS lands."
They chase down grow ops and meth labs on public land. There are some pretty nasty characters out there, particularly down by the border.
How long has it been since a serious federal enforcement agency carried revolvers?
http://www.fs.fed.us/lei/what-we-do.php
"Uniformed Law Enforcement Officers (LEO) enforce Federal laws and regulations governing National Forest Lands and resources. As part of that mission LEOs carry firearms, defensive equipment, make arrests, execute search warrants, complete reports and testify in court"
"The basic mission of Law Enforcement and Investigations (LE&I) is public and employee safety, resource protection, enforcement of U.S. Criminal Law, and to provide enforcement expertise to other agency managers. The National Forest System Drug Control Act of 1986, as amended in 1988, and Title 16 of the United States Code (U.S.C.), provides authorization to the Forest Service (FS) for law enforcement activities relating to the Controlled Substance Act and Title 21 U.S.C. Subsequently, officers of the FS are charged with performing drug enforcement duties on National Forest System (NFS) lands or in areas with a nexus to NFS lands."
They chase down grow ops and meth labs on public land. There are some pretty nasty characters out there, particularly down by the border.
How long has it been since a serious federal enforcement agency carried revolvers?
Sam Cade
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Presumably the sub-guns would most likely be intended to arm Forest Service raid teams and such.
ahh I stand corrected I guess
ClickClickD'oh
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silicosys4 said:
Just a little bit longer than someone serious used pistol caliber sub guns..
pockets
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"commerical" ?
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Sam Cade
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In this sense, purchasing items on the open market, as opposed to requisition from government supply.
JRH6856
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That seems like the same question the antis ask about why anyone needs an"assault weapon" for self defense. Being a USDA investigator can be dangerous.
Tommygunn
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ClickClickD'oh
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JRH6856 said:
To be fair, I have to hide most of my new purchases from my wife or she asks why I "NEED" another gun.
Here's a good article on the subject:
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/376053/united-states-swat-john-fund
"Dozens of federal agencies now have Special Weapons and Tactics (SWAT) teams to further an expanding definition of their missions. It’s not controversial that the Secret Service and the Bureau of Prisons have them. But what about the Department of Agriculture, the Railroad Retirement Board, the Tennessee Valley Authority, the Office of Personnel Management, the Consumer Product Safety Commission, and the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service? All of these have their own SWAT units and are part of a worrying trend towards the militarization of federal agencies — not to mention local police forces."
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/376053/united-states-swat-john-fund
"Dozens of federal agencies now have Special Weapons and Tactics (SWAT) teams to further an expanding definition of their missions. It’s not controversial that the Secret Service and the Bureau of Prisons have them. But what about the Department of Agriculture, the Railroad Retirement Board, the Tennessee Valley Authority, the Office of Personnel Management, the Consumer Product Safety Commission, and the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service? All of these have their own SWAT units and are part of a worrying trend towards the militarization of federal agencies — not to mention local police forces."
Sam Cade
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They are real cops. Their job is to enforce the laws on federal lands.
That is why they call them Forestry Service Law Enforcement Officers.
pockets
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You missed my point, that being the non-existent word 'commerical' being used in an official USDA solicitation for automatic weapons.
I certainly understand what the word 'commercial' means. Now please tell the USDA.
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Sam Cade
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Ah. I see what you did.
...but it is a commercial solicitation (Per FAR 13) so I'm not sure what your point is.
ClickClickD'oh
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Sam Cade said:
Probably that USDA needs to invest more money in a spell checking program.
Sam Cade
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D'oh. 
Stupid tiny screen.
Stupid tiny screen.
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Mad Cow disease must be getting serious...
Pretty much every government agency I can think of has an armed division of some sort. So USDA upgrading to UMP .40 (my guess) is no surprise.
Pretty much every government agency I can think of has an armed division of some sort. So USDA upgrading to UMP .40 (my guess) is no surprise.
dprice3844444
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those animals with mad cow disease could be dangerous
dogtown tom
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Someone serious like the Secret Service?
I have several friends that are USSS and they regularly use the MP5 in 9mm.
ClickClickD'oh
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dogtown tom said:
Well, there you have your answer for you then.
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