The Very Best .30 caliber Hunting Cartridge

[TimboKhan]

The funny thing is that I wouldn't pooh-pooh the .30-30 to begin with, but certainly not in comparison to the .300H&H, a cartridge I have no particular use for.

To a certain extent, everything invented after the .30-30 and the .30-06 is kind of pointless. Oh, I know that there are other great rounds, and I personally have become quite the 6.5x55 fan, but the reality is that there isn't anything on this continent that won't die a quick death from one of those two calibers. It's curmudgeonly to say, but arguments about superior ballistics in other rounds don't impress me when it comes to these rounds: History has proven that they work perfectly fine, and that's where the buck stops for me.

That being said, my main hunting rifle is a 7mmRemMag, lol.

 

[B.A.M.F]

So aspade how difficult is it to turn 375 h&h cases into 300 h&h? Do u just trim the case and reform the shoulder angle after necking it down?

 

[USSR]

Ah, gotta love that Shawnee. He never let's the facts get in the way of a good story. Anybody who reloads the '06 can easily duplicate the factory .300 H&H load, and not have to contend with that stupid belt.

Don

 

[Shawnee]

"Anybody who reloads the '06 can easily duplicate the factory .300 H&H load,..."


LOLOLOL ! That's a Fact !

PLUS - they only have to load one cartridge because after they detonate that first one they won't have enough of their '06 left to hunt canaries with.

 

[Matt-J2]

Starts with 30 and ends with 30. These 30s with extra 0s and even 6s attached are just jealous and trying to compensate for something.

 

[USSR]

Shawnee, Shawnee, Shawnee. I don't know exactly how powerful you THINK the 'ol .300 H&H Magnum is, but ballistics don't lie.

Federal ammunition, 2,880 fps for the 300 H&H with a 180 gr Nosler Partition bullet.

I have been sending Sierra 190SMK's at 2900fps out of my .30-06 for the past 6 years at under SAAMI max pressure specs. Even in factory ammo, Hornady's .30-06 LM ammunition sends a 180gr BTSP bullet at 2900fps, which exceeds factory .300 H&H ammo. You really need to get out more and quit living in the past.

Don

 

[aspade]

So aspade how difficult is it to turn 375 h&h cases into 300 h&h? Do u just trim the case and reform the shoulder angle after necking it down?

The shoulder is 0.30" further back, so you would need to crush the existing shoulder - not wrinkling it in the process - size down the existing body, form a new shoulder, neck down, and probably need to turn the neck thinner when you were done. Seems to me it'd make more sense to just buy factory brass.

 

[jimmyraythomason]

Nimrods?

"Factory ammo is for nimrods." Uh... MCgunner,you DO know what "Nimrod" means...dont you?

 

[win71]

I'm with ya

Quit picking on Shawnee. I too am on a search for not one but two things. One, of course, is a 300 H&H magnum. The other is a Studebaker pick-up.

 

[Shawnee]

"I have been sending Sierra 190SMK's at 2900fps out of my .30-06"


Tsk, tsk, tsk.

Hornady Reloading Manual #2

.300 H&H Magnum

190gr. BTHP

3000 fps.

Better leave that thutty-ought-stick on the porch with the rest of the puppies.

 

[DeerSlayer7600]

I'll stick with my .30-06 thank you.

 

[HB]

To a certain extent, everything invented after the .30-30 and the .30-06 is kind of pointless

To a certain extent, everything invented after the .45-70 and the .45 colt is kind of pointless.

I have no need whatsoever for anything over the dirty thirty/thutty-thutty/30WCF

 

[USSR]

C'mon Shawnee, we could play this game all night. The .300 Win Mag trumps the .300 H&H, the .300 Weatherby Mag trumps the .300 Win Mag, the .300 RUM trumps..., you get the picture. The plain facts are, there's not a dimes worth of difference between factory loaded .300 H&H and .30-06. You know, you might be taken more seriously if you didn't have your irrational hatred of certain cartridges/calibers.

Don

 

[Shawnee]

LOLOLOL !


Naw, USSR... I don't hate the 30-ought-pointless. I just think it is pointless for 99.9% of American hunters, and I say so, often.... but that's because so many people recommend it just because that's what their Grampaw handed them and they never gave it much rational thought. I just happen to believe telling a deer hunter to buy a you-know-what caliber borders on being criminally insane. You are certainly welcome to believe whatever you wish.

 

[rangerruck]

this very thing was brought up in a article by Craig boddington, in this month's issue of rifle shooter, or outdoor life, can't remember which.
As a dude who has shot on every continent , and at all game which resides on Earth, for proly at least 40 years, he says, the 300 winmag, is a tad better than the h/h. Just from his experience, I will have to defer to him.

 

[Bearhands]

ROFL...... "but that's because so many people recommend it just because that's what their Grampaw handed them and they never gave it much rational thought."

well.... im bettin' that there's more rational thinkin' "Grampaws" that handed them a 30-06's cause they work better and have killed more game than "uber calibers" anyday... It's time to grab some reality son...... like what you like and make it your own and leave the game killin to those who KNOW.

 

[TAB]

The best answer... the one your currently taking aim with on that big buck.

 

[Coltdriver]

I would just like to say how refreshing it is to hear a man state a firm opinion with such conviction and vigor and zest! Way to go Shawnee!!

Now I have to go have a look at one of these. Thanks for the inspiration!

 

[USSR]

Naw, USSR... I don't hate the 30-ought-pointless. I just think it is pointless for 99.9% of American hunters, and I say so, often....

Ah, but it makes perfect sense to you to recommend a cartridge where the ammo costs 3 times as much and drives the same 180 grain bullet 20fps slower? Sorry, but that's just plain irrational.

Don

 

[Shawnee]

LOLOL !


Nope. The only .30 caliber I ever recommend seriously is the 30/30.

For my money - if the 7mm/08 ain't enough, it's time for the .375 H&H.

 

[CBS220]

Pfft. If .22 rimfire doesn't get it, it's time to graduate up to a .50 BMG.

 

[ventana]

In Support of the 30 - 06

I recently returned from a safari in the Limpopo province of the Republic of South Africa and was very successful in harvesting near record kudu and gemsbuck with my 30-06. I also brought my 338 Win Mag as a back up on plains game but had no need for it since my 30-06 did a fine job.

Most of the PH's at the lodge also indicated that their "everyday rifle" was an '06. They also stressed the importance of shot placement and bullet type over the particular 30 caliber round employed.

Apparently more African game has been harvested with the 303 British than anyother rifle cartridge. Apparently the 303 bears some similarity to the 30 - 06 so I believe there is some merit to the 30 06 argument.

 

[MCgunner]

.308 is the best.......'cause I said so.

 

[CBS220]

Ventana, they only died because they were afraid you were going to shoot them with the .338

 

[ventana]

Maybe so about the 338

The PH thought that the 338 Win mag was the best all around for plains game there but I enjoyed shooting the '06 more so I ended up practicing a heck of lot more with that than the 338.