The Will To Survive

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I use this story as an example to my family of the importance of fighting back under any circumstances, never giving up, and always having access to a firearm. What would you have done?

LAKELAND - As Keith Radtke recovers from a gunshot wound to the lower back, he considers himself lucky. He knows much worse could have happened when an armed intruder broke into his Lakeland home Friday night and tried to kidnap him and his wife Jody while their three young sons slept upstairs.

The intruder, identified in police reports as Daine Joseph Linderman, 23, of Lino Lakes, had led authorities on a car chase from Hudson, Wis., and was desperately looking for another vehicle after he crashed the black Chevrolet Blazer he had been driving not far from the Bungalow Inn. He unsuccessfully tried several homes in the area before he found the Radtkes watching television.

In a bold move, Keith Radtke, 37, disarmed Linderman and held him in his garage until deputies from the Washington County Sheriff's Department arrived on the scene a short while later and took him into custody.

The confrontation

When Linderman made it to the home of Keith and Jody Radtke at about 9:05 p.m., he found the couple - who had just put their three elementary-aged boys to bed -watching television in their living room.

According to the Washington County complaint, Linderman pointed a .22-caliber assault rifle at the couple and demanded they get in their car with him.

He then walked behind them, keeping the rifle pointed at their back and head, as they led him to their three-car garage. All the while, the couple was telling him he could take anything he wanted if he would just leave them behind. He refused.

Once in the garage, standing on the wooden stairway leading down to the garage floor, Mr. Radtke pleaded with Linderman to consider taking just him, leaving his wife behind. Linderman again refused.

Then, while Linderman was looking at Mrs. Radtke, Mr. Radtke knocked the assault rifle out of his hand and jumped on him, ordering his wife to get back in the house, lock the door, and call 911.

The two men wrestled, and Linderman pulled a .45 caliber handgun from his waistband and shot Radtke in the lower back. Radtke then knocked Linderman's hand against the railing of the stairway, forcing him to drop the gun, and threw the gun towards the driveway.

The men continued to fight, and when police arrived on the scene moments later, Radtke was lying on the suspect and had him in a wrestling hold.:D

Police then separated the men and used a taser to subdue Linderman, who was resisting arrest.
 
i'm acctually so adverse to the use of the word assault rifle that upon reading it i could think of little more.... and .22 cal really?
but ignoring that, just wow. well done for Mr. Radtke, i can't imagine being his wife and hearing that one gunshot she must have been horrified.

-kirk
 
Pictures of him receiving a medal can be found online...he looks great. Other articles noted his top physical condition...college athlete and marathoner gave him a leg up in the fight.
 
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Handgun cartridges are poor stoppers if the wounded person chooses to keep fighting. I have zero confidence that HP will work better than FMJ. You trade penetration for expansion. Does this make the round more effective? OK. Prove it.


Apparently the guy with the gunshot wound was winning the fight when the cops showed up.


Handguns are like voodoo. They work best on people who believe in them.
 
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LightningJoe, you may be right. After being shot with the 'ultimate man stopper' round you would think this guy would have curled up in a ball and given up. He had three kids and a wife to protect. That's motivation.
 
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Linderman pointed a .22-caliber assault rifle at the couple and demanded they get in their car with him.
... twenty-two caliber WUT?
Lazy reporting, but an interesting story.
Particularly interesting to note that .45 in the back didn't do the job ... perhaps the .45 vs 9mm debate has been answered again, with nothing short of .454 Casull, or .50AE, .500S&W, or .50GI being adequate.
 
The two men wrestled, and Linderman pulled a .45 caliber handgun from his waistband and shot Radtke in the lower back. Radtke then knocked Linderman's hand against the railing of the stairway, forcing him to drop the gun, and threw the gun towards the driveway.

And yet another reality check for the "one shot stop" crowd, aim COM and shoot until the target goes down.
 
Handguns are like voodoo. They work best on people who believe in them.

This is why no one in the history of the world has ever been killed by a hand gun.

Shot placement.
 
Does anyone here have a link to the story??? I would like to email the writer of the article and ask just what exactly is a ".22-caliber assault rifle"???

Might be an AR, but really, most reporters don't know what 'caliber' means anyway!!!
 
It was an AR-15 rifle. I spoke with one of the deputies involved, and it all started in Hudson, WI where the BG had stolen a vehicle and was tracked to his girlfriend's apartment. Two deputies went up to the apartment and while talking to the girlfriend heard the BG loading his AR-15. They withdrew because they realized they were outgunned at that moment. The guy came out shooting. He shot out the hall lights and ran to an SUV. The deputies had to be careful about shooting at him because of other people in the area. They did shoot him through the door of the SUV and wound him, but he drove off and crossed the river into Minnesota. That's where he crashed the vehicle at the Bungalow restaurant and ran off into the local neighborhood.

I believe that Radtke was wounded in the buttocks because the .45 was fired while they were wrestling in the garage.

The MN state patrol was there pretty quickly as well, because they were in area doing some extra DUI enforcement.

Link: http://www.startribune.com/local/11556946.html

Another: http://www.startribune.com/newsgraphics/11573141.html
 
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This is why no one in the history of the world has ever been killed by a hand gun.

Shot placement.


Handgun wounds are often mortal for physical reasons (long after the outcome of the encounter has been decided). Handguns are often immediately effective (for psychological reasons). Handguns are rarely immediately effective for physical reasons without serendipitous shot placement.


Yes, shot placement, but not COM shot placement. CNS shot placement. Difficult to achieve when you're in an actual fight. A sucker shot from concealment, sure. Flat-footed shooting it out, not so easy. Ask the cops who fire 100 rounds and hit the guy a couple of times.
 
Does this make the round more effective? OK. Prove it.
Well, if you look at ballistics gelatin, they usually make a bigger wound. Also, if you look at anecdotal evidence, they usually stop more. Of course, I'd use FMJ in .380 and less.
 
LightningJoe, you may be right. After being shot with the 'ultimate man stopper' round you would think this guy would have curled up in a ball and given up. He had three kids and a wife to protect. That's motivation.

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He was "Forrest Gumped". Not a failure of the round, a failure of shot placement.
 
I'm sure the reporter is right now asking, .22 or .223 what's the difference?
 
I once helped teach a woman's self defence course, in which the speaker told women to fight it out to the end, and I totally agree with that philosophy. I was there to show the women how tough it can be to stop an attacker, and some basic punches and kicks to try to ward off someone intent on raping/murdering them. It was quite sobering for the women. There were approximately 60 women in the class. The speaker asked them, how many of you think you can ward off a determined attacker? Hands went up all around. Then a friend and I worked with them and took them down to the ground one by one. Then the question was asked again and no hands went up. It was an honor to teach them how to ruin some bad guys day...
 
On Monday a Chesapeake Virginia police officer was shot four times by an AK47 before drawing his handgun and killing his attacker.
 
i'm acctually so adverse to the use of the word assault rifle that upon reading it i could think of little more.... and .22 cal really?
What do you think a 223 is? How about a AR 15 chambered for 223? Now how about an AR 15 chambered in 223 in the eyes of a newsman...
 
While I read this story, I only pictured myself, and my wife in the rolls of the Radtkes.

He's a lucky SOB, but only because of his strength, wit, and will.

I hope that I'd be as lucky.
 
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