The XD-E is dead. Long live the XD-E.

[Homerboy]

I carry strikers and have several, but that’s because there isn’t a hammer fired gun that can match the size and weight of one with comparable fire power. If the new S&W CSX ever comes in a DA/SA I will buy one immediately. I searched for an XDE when they first came out. The proportions look all wrong to me. Didn’t feel good in the hand either. I was very disappointed in it.

 

[JeeperCreeper]

Not to jump back on the XD-E hate bandwagon... But the big problem with the XD-E is it was a compromise in most objectives.

I find this happens when companies really aim at carry guns but don't go all in on carry guns.

It was too big, but not big enough to be a duty gun. Even if it was thinner and small by measurements, there's little arguing it had a bizarre profile.

Capacity was too low for it's size, or "perceived" size.

Trigger wasn't good enough to be a full range fun.

It's like the Subaru Baja. Didn't really commit to one thing, and ended up a compromise.

It really felt like a retrofit call-in engineering job. I wanted to like it.

I think had SA and HS Produkt made something that would compete with say... A SIG 2022 or CZ P-07, it would have done better.

Right now, I think the market is great towards micro nines or midsized Glock 19.

The XD-E had the cons of both with no pros.

Big, low cap, bad ergos, off balance, mediocre trigger.

I agree with those above, it was dead-on-arrival.

But hey, if you love it, more power to ya, scoop them all up while you can!!!

 

[Jimbo80]

I had an XD SC at one time and it was very comfortable in my hand. I think when they tried to slim down the XD series they never got the egos right. When they start adding range bags, extra mags, and a t-shirt to the deal the writing was on the wall that it's a poor seller.

 

[JR24]

Too big and heavy for capacity, indifferent trigger even for a DA/SA, unnecessary safety unless you want cocked and locked, and I didn’t like it’s location for that.

I’m not surprised.

Ultimately, in my eyes, it didn’t offer enough concealment advantage over a P2000SK or PX4 subcompact to justify the loss in capacity.

Of course that’s just my opinion.

 

[cfullgraf]

Interesting that Springfield has dropped the XD-E. I kind of like mine although Springfield replaced it due to a problem in the plastic frame. The new one has functioned fine--so far.

But, I got an H&K P30SK da/sa that I really like better than the XD-E..

This is the second Springfield semi-auto pistol that I bought that they dropped. I suspect they will orphan the XD-E like they did my P9C back in the 1990's.

 

[D.B. Cooper]

Well, I'm really glad to see this sparked a good discussion.

Those detractors to the XD-E have valid arguments.

When I was shopping for mine, I compared it to the S&W...I think it was the Shield. My XD-E empty weighs the same as the shield does loaded; I think they're similar in size. I just compared mine to a friend's P365 and my XD-E is significantly larger. I pretty much use the extended, 9-round, magazine exclusively-mostly for the extended grip size. It has a high bore axis, so controlling muzzle rise is an issue. I mean, I titled my first post here about it XD-E Is Tough To Shoot. It took me quite a bit of practice to get used it, but once I did, it really grew on me.

Ultimately, I bought the XD-E in large part for the safety and trigger. I prefer the DA/SA trigger w/ external hammer and safety/decocker. (I ran an M9 in the Air Force.) I am very much a proponent of having a safety on a gun, and the XD-E safety allowed everything the M9 did plus 1911 style "Condition One." (although, I would never carry a gun that.) I also like the location of the safety-something Beretta has never gotten right. I like the ambi mag release and prefer to drop mags using the trigger finger. At the time I bought my XD-E, it was the only gun on the market like it. Striker fired guns have taken over the handgun market almost completely.

 

[D.B. Cooper]

...the big problem with the XD-E is it was a compromise in most objectives...

...It's like the Subaru Baja. Didn't really commit to one thing, and ended up a compromise.

Interesting analogy. I always liked the Baja, and more so its predecessor, the Brat. (Not enough to buy one, mind you, but I like the vehicles.

But hey, if you love it, more power to ya, scoop them all up while you can!!!

Sportsman's Warehouse has them listed for $399, which is 20% off, but for current owners of the XD-E, it's probably wiser to buy up spare magazines.

PS: Incidentally, $399 is what they were selling for a few years ago along with the "Gear Up" offer, which included a few mags and a range bag.

 

[Blkhrt13]

GunnyUSMC
"Now days your older gun guys are the ones that still like the DA/SA pistols."
I'm debating on whether I should be offended right now or not. I am "old school" but at 41 not quite willing to accept being labeled an old guy just yet . I've transitioned back to either revolver or DA/SA semis. I've just always preferred them over striker fired. Beretta, HK, and CZ are my go to. I have fondled the XD-E before but being a single stack and not the greatest of triggers, I've chosen against one so far.

I’m with you, same age same transition. I feel like an old Jedi does about a lightsaber. Not sure if we are minority. But I don’t like guns with rails either. Ruins the lines. I have had flocks and sold them.

 

[GunnyUSMC]

GunnyUSMC
"Now days your older gun guys are the ones that still like the DA/SA pistols."
I'm debating on whether I should be offended right now or not. I am "old school" but at 41 not quite willing to accept being labeled an old guy just yet . I've transitioned back to either revolver or DA/SA semis. I've just always preferred them over striker fired. Beretta, HK, and CZ are my go to. I have fondled the XD-E before but being a single stack and not the greatest of triggers, I've chosen against one so far.

Don’t take it personal, but the fact is, most shooters that like DA/SA pistols are in the over 50 club.
Many times it’s because it’s the type of action they’ve used the most and just about everything else just doesn’t feel right to them.
Some have never used anything else, because they are happy with what they have.
There’s nothing wrong with liking DA/SA. I see it as just another option for shooters.
The Springfield XD-E is just another DA/SA gun in a long line of others that just didn’t appeal to the market.
There’s plenty of guns that have come and gone. Some will be missed, others not. Most likely the XD-E will be missed about as much as the Remington RP-9.

 

[GunnyUSMC]

I'll never be a fan of striker fired pistols for concealed carry, but as other posters have said, that puts me in the minority. That doesn't mean I'm wrong, it just means I don't follow crowd think.

I have never understood why some people can’t just admit that they don’t like something and be done. It seems like some feel the need to belittle others that don’t feel the same.

 

[tarosean]

The DA/SA guns had their hay day back when police departments were transitioning from revolvers to auto, which was back in the 80’s and 90’s.
Now days your older gun guys are the ones that still like the DA/SA pistols.

Don’t take it personal, but the fact is, most shooters that like DA/SA pistols and in the over 50 club.

I have never understood why some people can’t just admit that they don’t like something and be done. It seems like some feel the need to belittle others that don’t feel the same.

Says the person who called everyone that likes DA/SA old?????

 

[JR24]

I think pointing out the fact that many/most who like a style are older (I’m not yet 40 and like DA/SA but only came to that recently) is different than accusing others of “crowd think”, whatever that is.

 

[D.B. Cooper]

Says the person who called everyone that likes DA/SA old?????

I'm not sure that is "belittling" per se. It's anecdotal, for sure, but I suspect it's not wholly inaccurate. It's not like he said "Okay, Boomer." =)

 

[kidneyboy]

I have 2 XDE's. One in 9 and one in 45 and like them both enough to carry them. Both better shooters than the XDS I had for a while.
Should probably pick up a few mags for the 45.
It doesn't bother me that they are discontinued. Had a P89 long after they stopped making it.

 

[tarosean]

I'm not sure that is "belittling" per se. It's anecdotal, for sure, but I suspect it's not wholly inaccurate. It's not like he said "Okay, Boomer." =)

Kind a sorta in in a round about way..

For the record I am not a "boomer" and prefer SAO over everything else. However, when people with DA/SA guns are still winning world championships. It seems to me it's a personal hangup and not a fact..

 

[GunnyUSMC]

Says the person who called everyone that likes DA/SA old?????

At what time did I insult anyone that likes DA/SA pistol? All I was doing was pointing out the fact that the majority of shooters that like DA/SA pistols are older shooters. I never said that all were old. I also pointed out reasons why some shooters still like them. Maybe you should pay closer attention to what you read.
But the hard fact is that most new and younger shooters are going with strike fire pistols.
Just take a good look at how many new DA/SA pistols have hit the market in the last five years vs striker fire pistols.
Now, myself, I’m not young anymore. Hell, I’m getting kind of old, I’ll be 59 this year. There are some DA/SA pistols that I like, but they are not my go to guns. I prefer SA hammer fire guns for target shooting and Striker fire for duty use.
I think that it’s great that there are so many different options when it comes to firearms these days. It makes it easier to find a gun that fits your style and needs. But if a company puts out a gun that doesn’t appeal to many shooters, it won’t be on the market very long.

 

[wbwanzer]

I'll go against the grain here and say that I like mine. I'm also 70, since age seems to be a factor here .
I have a SIG 2022 which I love, but always considered it a little too large for me to carry. I had always wished there was something just like the 2022 but smaller. Then a few years ago I discovered the XDe. It's got a hammer, is DA/SA with de-cocker and safety. Everything that I wanted.

When I carried, the XDe was it. But in warmer months I was finding it more than I wanted to conceal. (Even though I'm 70, I've only been able to carry for the last few years having lived most of my life in the People's Republic of Maryland. So I'm new to carrying) I decided that something a little smaller (since there is a plethora of small carry nines now) might be in order. I now have a Shield Plus for carrying. The XDe is now the bedside gun with an OLIGHT attached.

So I still like and will keep my XDe and am disappointed that it's being dropped from Springfield's lineup.

But getting back to the DA/SA older guy thing, I'm reluctantly admitting that lately here, I seem to be more accurate with my striker fired pistols. Besides the Shield plus I have a Canik TP9SFX and a SIG P320 X-carry Legion both of which I am better with than my CZ P07 or the XDe.

 

[Blkhrt13]

Don’t take it personal, but the fact is, most shooters that like DA/SA pistols are in the over 50 club.
Many times it’s because it’s the type of action they’ve used the most and just about everything else just doesn’t feel right to them.
Some have never used anything else, because they are happy with what they have.
There’s nothing wrong with liking DA/SA. I see it as just another option for shooters.
The Springfield XD-E is just another DA/SA gun in a long line of others that just didn’t appeal to the market.
There’s plenty of guns that have come and gone. Some will be missed, others not. Most likely the XD-E will be missed about as much as the Remington RP-9.
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For me I don’t like the way the balance point changes as the mag empties on a plastic pistol. Not to many striker fired pistols are aluminum and steel. I know I’m a tactical scenario you will be far more worried about other things. But for fun shooting it’s annoying to me. Glocks never point easy for me the way a 92 does. I know there are others now. But it’s the spirit of it. Plus I got good deals on a lot of my guns because everyone wants the lighter plastic stuff. I don’t judge really we all like different stuff.

 

[JR24]

For me I don’t like the way the balance point changes as the mag empties on a plastic pistol. Not to many striker fired pistols are aluminum and steel. I know I’m a tactical scenario you will be far more worried about other things. But for fun shooting it’s annoying to me. Glocks never point easy for me the way a 92 does. I know there are others now. But it’s the spirit of it. Plus I got good deals on a lot of my guns because everyone wants the lighter plastic stuff. I don’t judge really we all like different stuff.

I have never once noticed that the balance point changes, regardless of material. Maybe it’s because my grip is quite firm, or maybe it’s because I don’t shoot bullseye where it’d be more noticeable.

 

[Blkhrt13]

I have never once noticed that the balance point changes, regardless of material. Maybe it’s because my grip is quite firm, or maybe it’s because I don’t shoot bullseye where it’d be more noticeable.

I started shooting with a 1911 and a 686. When you move off of boat anchors you can feel things differently. I don’t death grip. It seemed more obvious when you are trying to crank them out fast but tight. Maybe it’s just me. I dunno.

 

[JR24]

I started shooting with a 1911 and a 686. When you move off of boat anchors you can feel things differently. I don’t death grip. It seemed more obvious when you are trying to crank them out fast but tight. Maybe it’s just me. I dunno.

My most common gun to shoot other than a Glock is a steel 1911, so I do the comparison pretty much every range trip

We are all so different in how we feel guns it’s certainly a “who knows” thing. Nice that there are enough options out there to keep us all happy

 

[Blkhrt13]

My most common gun to shoot other than a Glock is a steel 1911, so I do the comparison pretty much every range trip

We are all so different in how we feel guns it’s certainly a “who knows” thing. Nice that there are enough options out there to keep us all happy

Is your Glock a 9mm or 40?

 

[JR24]

Is your Glock a 9mm or 40?

Mostly 9mm (though I do have a polymer HK in 45) but I do shoot my Glock 21 fairly often (one of my favorite .45s) and I feel like if any was gonna do it, losing 13 rounds of .45 would be the ticket

 

[Blkhrt13]

Mostly 9mm (though I do have a polymer HK in 45) but I do shoot my Glock 21 fairly often (one of my favorite .45s) and I feel like if any was gonna do it, losing 13 rounds of .45 would be the ticket

No doubt. Mine was a 40. Maybe I should have applied more squeeze. I was disgusted when it was stolen after all the money I put into it. I will prolly have another one day. But I found 92 series and CZ just fit my hand and shot better for me.

 

[GunnyUSMC]

Let’s not forget that we’re talking about Springfield dropping the XD-E from their lineup. Going to far off topic will most likely get the topic locked.
Let’s look at in a different direction.
If you had taken a look at the XD-E, and didn’t buy it, what were your reasons? And if they were to discount the remaining inventory, how low would the price have to go for you to buy one.