Fishingted
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Them foreign guns
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Dark Skies
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What about the Welrod .32? Arguably the most efficient silenced pistol made.
Then there's the Webley range of military / police pistols. I had the Mk IV in .38. That was a lovely gun to shoot.
We also made Colts for Sam in London.
I generally agree with this... but my MAS 49/56 is one of my favorite surplus semi-autos. It is quite light for its time, has been very reliable for me and recoils like a .243.
When I ordered it through one of the surplus dealers way back when it had never been fired... only dropped once.
Riomouse911
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Korea made Daewoo K-2 5.56 rifles and K-5 9mm pistols are very well made arms. Like Israel, South Korea has a crazy neighbor who is constantly trying to kill its people so the guns they make must be reliable and effective.
Stay safe.
Stay safe.
Riomouse911
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Here are some pictures of the Daewoo designs:
Stay safe.
Stay safe.
George P
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Miroku makes the Browning Citori line as well
Add in Flodman from Sweden, FN, Kemen, AyA
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Is Seraphim still making guns? Because then I’d say Canada.
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Tommygunn
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My Browning BL-22 is made by Miroku.
CoalTrain49
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Kodensha made the two Win 101 shotguns I had. Not bad in the general scheme of quality. Miroku (Browning) is a better product IMO, had several of those also. I have a few Howa rifles. Those are a good value also. Quality is good.
NIGHTLORD40K
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S.Korea, i.e. Daewoo, makes military pistols and rifles.
OT, but Hyundai makes tanks and ships as well.
Oop, just saw Riomouse beat me to it, lol.
OT, but Hyundai makes tanks and ships as well.
Oop, just saw Riomouse beat me to it, lol.
DocRock
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Thank you! I could not remember the maker of the original 101. Great guns, very well made, but odd stock geometry for most NA males gave them a reputation as hard kicking guns.
NIGHTLORD40K
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South Africa makes, or at least made quite a few, including the Vektor pistols, R5 rifle (Galil clone), and the Musgrave rifles.
entropy
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I said 'arguably the finest shotguns and rifles' in the world, meaning H&H, Purdey, and Boss. While the Welrod is still the standard silenced weapons are measured by, it isn't in the same milieu as H&H. Webley? Functional, to be sure, but it barely beats the Nagant M1895 in a beauty contest. London Colts get a pass, they're still Colts.
But Durs Egg pistols were the highest expression of pistolsmithing in the 18th and early 19th centuries.
DocRock
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But Durs Egg pistols were the highest expression of pistolsmithing in the 18th and early 19th centuries.
Although, Egg was Swiss (albeit resident in London), so, arguably, the Mantons may have the title to last great English pistol...;-)
ozarkhillbilly
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How many of the countries named would have a firearms market without the U.S.?
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Another one I forgot. Poland and the little known Fabryka Broni aka Radom factory. Makes copies of Walthes, Sigs, Browning Hi Powers, AKs, TP9, SCARs, and probably a few others I can't find good pictures of.
https://fabrykabroni.pl/en/
https://fabrykabroni.pl/en/
Kano383
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France makes what is arguably the toughest, most durable, and out-of-the-box accurate carry revolver, the MR73.
Italy makes the best semi-auto tactical shotgun, the Benelli in its various iterations, and are at the top in the competition shotguns with the Perazzi and others
Switzerland makes the SIG P210, is the birthplace of the SIG P2xx series, and produced the most accurate military rifles spanning from pre-WWII to date. It's the only country that managed to produce an AK-based military rifle that you can take for competition right out of the rack, the SIG 550.
The Czechs produce the CZ line, with their pistols universally recognized as top contenders in quality, reliability and ergonomics, and their utterly reliable rifles being the most common bolt action used by professional hunters in Africa.
The Finns produce the Sako, one heck of no-nonsense and reliable hunting rifle.
Belgium has master armourers in Liège, produces the FN, and have been producing the best Browning guns for decades.
Austria has a whole master craftsmen industry in Ferlach. You may not like the style, but they produce absolutely outstanding break-open rifles, bolt actions, and multi-barreled designs.
Then you have the Brits, the Germans, the Swedes, and a handful of other countries who have top-notch manufacturers, some being mere artisans.
I certainly forget many, but these are the ones that come to mind when you think about "a really good, well made gun" at the very top of its category.
Italy makes the best semi-auto tactical shotgun, the Benelli in its various iterations, and are at the top in the competition shotguns with the Perazzi and others
Switzerland makes the SIG P210, is the birthplace of the SIG P2xx series, and produced the most accurate military rifles spanning from pre-WWII to date. It's the only country that managed to produce an AK-based military rifle that you can take for competition right out of the rack, the SIG 550.
The Czechs produce the CZ line, with their pistols universally recognized as top contenders in quality, reliability and ergonomics, and their utterly reliable rifles being the most common bolt action used by professional hunters in Africa.
The Finns produce the Sako, one heck of no-nonsense and reliable hunting rifle.
Belgium has master armourers in Liège, produces the FN, and have been producing the best Browning guns for decades.
Austria has a whole master craftsmen industry in Ferlach. You may not like the style, but they produce absolutely outstanding break-open rifles, bolt actions, and multi-barreled designs.
Then you have the Brits, the Germans, the Swedes, and a handful of other countries who have top-notch manufacturers, some being mere artisans.
I certainly forget many, but these are the ones that come to mind when you think about "a really good, well made gun" at the very top of its category.
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Miroku quality isn’t always good.
I bought an SA22 from them a while back and the sights were canted about 10 degrees to the left, along with the screws for a scope mount. Made it pretty worthless I’d say and how the Japanese could have let that slip by QC amazes and disappoints me. Currently back at Browning for repairs. It’s been almost 3 months with no response from them.
I bought an SA22 from them a while back and the sights were canted about 10 degrees to the left, along with the screws for a scope mount. Made it pretty worthless I’d say and how the Japanese could have let that slip by QC amazes and disappoints me. Currently back at Browning for repairs. It’s been almost 3 months with no response from them.
everyone drops the ball now and then.
Now that I think about it Im pretty sure 1/2 or more of my guns are foreign-made. My Rugers, Buckmark, 700, Christensen, 795, and p32, AR, are US...... so yeah little more than 1/2.
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Ignition Override
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The larger of the Polish handguns in 9x18 Mak., the P-83, is an excellent product.
The smaller, much more recognizable P-64, despite its Heavy,
Unpopular DA trigger and recoil, is also an extremely reliable and even more concealable handgun.
Polish AKMs are also quite popular.
Sovblocgunfan: Hungarian- yes.
The only issue with my all-matching ‘TGI’ AMD-65 was caused by the Cheap American spot weld on the muzzle (added to keep barrel over 16” length). The crack was repaired by a pro, gunsmith.
Over 1,500 rds. in that gun since the repair, and a perfect operation.
is an excellent product.The smaller, much more recognizable P-64, despite its Heavy,
Unpopular DA trigger and recoil, is also an extremely reliable and even more concealable handgun.Polish AKMs are also quite popular.
Sovblocgunfan: Hungarian- yes.
The only issue with my all-matching ‘TGI’ AMD-65 was caused by the Cheap American spot weld on the muzzle (added to keep barrel over 16” length). The crack was repaired by a pro, gunsmith.
Over 1,500 rds. in that gun since the repair, and a perfect operation.
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Archie
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To echo what a couple others have said, Great Britain is not commonly considered to be a firearms exporter. I am not certain about current trends, from a historical standpoint they have produced martial arms and serious weapons for generations and still make fine (and expensive) hunting rifles.
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Most all had markets before the US was even a country
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I’ll throw one out in support of our Froggy friends. As I recall the French had a subgun that proved itself in French IndoChina for years. The MAT-49 was highly prized by French special operations troops and paratroopers. I have to be honest-to me, the jokes about being dropped once aren’t fair to the french military (the leadership and government, though, should be the butt of the joke!), who generally turn out outstanding people. The small arms they use are sometimes weird, but when they get em right, and put them in the hands of the right people, the French are a force to be reckoned with.
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