Hangingrock
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Absolutes? Opinions yes! Each to their own.
There Is No Better 45, Than a Ruger P Series 45
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Cornhusker77
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I gotta jump on the P345 bandwagon.
Mine will feed anything, up to and including some 20 year old, cast bullet reloads I found in my dad's stuff.
It fits my hand and shoots where I point it.
All in all, it's a decent gun, and probably my favorite 45 of the ones I own.
Of course, I'm not done buying guns, so it might get knocked off the favorite spot someday
Mine will feed anything, up to and including some 20 year old, cast bullet reloads I found in my dad's stuff.
It fits my hand and shoots where I point it.
All in all, it's a decent gun, and probably my favorite 45 of the ones I own.
Of course, I'm not done buying guns, so it might get knocked off the favorite spot someday
I bought a P97 a few years ago because...
A-it was cheap (less than $300 used),
B-it was a 45 and
C-it was cheap.
Not a big fan of double action autos but I was pleasantly surprised at what a nice pistol it was though somewhat clunky.
I do think Ruger missed the mark a bit by not making for 1911 mags.
Ruger stopped making the P series with the introduction of the SR series of pistols.
A-it was cheap (less than $300 used),
B-it was a 45 and
C-it was cheap.
Not a big fan of double action autos but I was pleasantly surprised at what a nice pistol it was though somewhat clunky.
I do think Ruger missed the mark a bit by not making for 1911 mags.
Ruger stopped making the P series with the introduction of the SR series of pistols.
I would be curious to know the cause of the jam. The biggest weakness of autoloaders is their dependence on quality ammunition & magazines to function properly.
Weblance I am glad you are enjoying your P-series pistols. While it isn't my favorite gun I still have an old P94 in .40 caliber. It is a good gun. I haven't shot one of the P-series .45's. I was interested in the P-345 when I first saw & handled one. I decided against it though after doing some research about the magazine disconnect & the click no bang stories. I do like my SR1911 though.
Agree, no matter how misinformed or misguided it might be........
That there is funny!
"No Better"?? OK each man to his own. Certainly a fine reliable gun I always thought of them as Robo Guns
DM~
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I have a problem with "that" statement, as Ruger has build some "junk" just like other mfg's have, so not ALL Ruger products have been quality built.
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Walt Sherrill
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The P-series Rugers are functional, economical, and reliable -- but if it weren't for the low price, I don't think they'd be all that attractive to many shooters. Hard to beat for the price, but price isn't always the only or the main consideration.
I've had several P-series guns, and I liked them all, but like other guns more. For a low-cost .45 ACP weapon, I think I'd rather get a Witness base-line .45 or a Ruger SR-45.
The gun in my small, bedside gun safe is a Glock 38 (.45 GAP), which I shoot better than any .45 I've owned. I got it used (but unfired), for $350, and can get .45 GAP ammo from a number of sources for about the same price as .45 ACP; I tend to buy ammo in larger quantities. I seldom buy NEW guns, any more.
I've had several P-series guns, and I liked them all, but like other guns more. For a low-cost .45 ACP weapon, I think I'd rather get a Witness base-line .45 or a Ruger SR-45.
The gun in my small, bedside gun safe is a Glock 38 (.45 GAP), which I shoot better than any .45 I've owned. I got it used (but unfired), for $350, and can get .45 GAP ammo from a number of sources for about the same price as .45 ACP; I tend to buy ammo in larger quantities. I seldom buy NEW guns, any more.
As well built as most rugers are, all da/sa decockers are inherently flawed. That system is pointlessly complex for use under stress in a deadly situation. Simpler setups such as glocks, xds, m&ps or revolvers make far more sense.
.455_Hunter
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My P90DC is scary accurate and shoots right on the sights with 230 gr ball. I have carried it many times to my company's research facility in West Texas, where dust exposure not just a concep- its reality. I recently bought a P89DC to complete the set. To bad the P95 is gone now- a MUCH better firearm than almost all of the trendy striker specials.
Wil Terry
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A P90 ? Shucks, my RUGER BH series 45ACP will eat alive any other type of 45ACP ruger ever made, or even thought of for that matter.
And in case you wonder, I own one of the first twentyfive P90's made and shipped from the plant directly to me for testing, a superb 45ACP pistol, BUT not a patch on the fanny of my Ruger BH series 45ACP.
And in case you wonder, I own one of the first twentyfive P90's made and shipped from the plant directly to me for testing, a superb 45ACP pistol, BUT not a patch on the fanny of my Ruger BH series 45ACP.
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malakili said:
Can you cite some real-world examples where this inherent flaw has led to deaths or an inability of a gun to function properly when it mattered, or show us that such failures are any more common than the malfunctions or accidental/negligent discharges that occur with weapons NOT equipped with decockers?
In theory, your claim may be correct -- seemingly unnecessary complexity -- but theory and reality don't always coincide.
HUH??
Yep I say that about all my Sigs and CZ's FNp,x, SW 3rd gen semi autos and some others I can not think of. All flawed.
How about you just like striker fired better?
HUH??
Yep I say that about all my Sigs and CZ's FNp,x, SW 3rd gen semi autos and some others I can not think of. All flawed.
How about you just like striker fired better?
My H&K USP would like a second opinion as well.
Now if he were to say that 'for novice shooters, hammer fired DA/SA guns are more difficult to hit the target on the first fired round if they are in DA mode' he might have something. They probably do require more training to deal with either the DA shot or the cocked and locked mode.
But when folks like the US Navy Seals, among others, who have the ability to carry any handgun they want and often choose a DA/SA Sig he may have to reconsider his broad-brush statement.
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Can't come anywhere close to agreeing with that.
TanklessPro
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I own a lot of 45's. Something about the Rugers I just don't like, even the new SR series. They all feel cheap to me.
OP said they looked like a classic muscle car? The 1911 is a classic. To me they look like an econo car from the 80's. IMO there are a lot better choices. But hey, to each their own.
OP said they looked like a classic muscle car? The 1911 is a classic. To me they look like an econo car from the 80's. IMO there are a lot better choices. But hey, to each their own.
chris in va
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Why is it necessary to post this same troll on two boards?
I stay away from slide mounted safeties, decockers. I hate racking the slide with crap mounted on it! With that said, my long gone P345 was a tack driver! I would rather shoot a 1911 though, the P345 was just to cramped in my hands....
I bought a stainless P95 when they first came out. I am was particularly fond of that gun. It saved me from being car jacked many years ago. My kids learned to shoot on that same P95. When they left home I offered them any gun they wanted for home defense. They both picked the P95. I guess the liked what they were familiar with.
Also have owned a P90 and P97. Both great guns. Just like the P95. Accurate, 100% reliable, and a good bargain. I've long since traded them. Sometimes miss them. They were mostly traded for SIGS. Which are all older SIGS and perfect. The P90 was a bit bulky. But all were fine firearms. Still have a 22/45, 10-22, LCP, and LC9. All accurate, reliable, value priced, and work everytime. Ruger makes some fine firearms indeed.
Also have owned a P90 and P97. Both great guns. Just like the P95. Accurate, 100% reliable, and a good bargain. I've long since traded them. Sometimes miss them. They were mostly traded for SIGS. Which are all older SIGS and perfect. The P90 was a bit bulky. But all were fine firearms. Still have a 22/45, 10-22, LCP, and LC9. All accurate, reliable, value priced, and work everytime. Ruger makes some fine firearms indeed.
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