These Gun Owners Are Least Likely Criminals, Report Finds

[Aim1]

Not a surprise.



http://dailysignal.com/2016/08/09/these-gun-owners-are-least-likely-criminals-report-finds/

These Gun Owners Are Least Likely Criminals, Report Finds

Fred Lucas / @FredLucasWH / August 09, 2016

Concealed-carry permit holders are nearly the most law-abiding demographic of Americans, a new report by the Crime Prevention Research Center says—comparing the permit holders foremost with police.

“Indeed, it is impossible to think of any other group in the U.S. that is anywhere near as law-abiding,” says the report, titled “Concealed Carry Permit Holders Across the United States 2016.”

From 2007 through 2015, permits issued by state and local governments increased by 215 percent, to more than 14 million Americans, according to the data. The study compared permit holders to police, who committed 703 crimes from 2005 to 2007, and 113 of those were firearm violations. “With about 685,464 full-time police officers in the U.S. from 2005 to 2007, we find that there were about 103 crimes per hundred thousand officers,” the report reads. “For the U.S. population as a whole, the crime rate was 37 times higher—3,813 per hundred thousand people.”

 

[200Apples]

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...as well as being perhaps very conscientious folk.

 

[reddog81]

Kind of an odd statistic... if your average permit holder goes and commits a misdemeanor who keeps track of the fact that they are a gun owner or concealed-carry permit holder?

I'm not going to disagree with the finding but I just don't see how they could track the data of how often gun owners commit misdemeanor crimes.

 

[Carl N. Brown]

http://blog.oregonlive.com/myoregon/2013/10/letter_conceal-carry_licenses.html
Joshua Marquis, DA Clatsop Co. OR, "Rise in concealed handgun licenses hasn't harmed public safety", Letter to The Oregonian, 15 Oct 2013.

Regarding the recent articles ... about conceal-carry licenses ... I have been a prosecutor in four Oregon counties over the last 30 years ... In 1991, I was the chief deputy district attorney in Deschutes County in Bend, and I authored an opinion piece run by The Oregonian, in which I was highly critical of a deal made [to allow shall-issue CHL] ... I was very skeptical and was appalled .... I thought it would be a disaster. I was wrong. Based on my experience, crimes by CHL holders are very rare and are certainly less than in the general population. ... CHL holders have not been a public safety problem.

There is what I call the ten-years-after boy-was-I-wrong phenomenon of people with honest concerns over concealed carry admitting they were wrong. It's usually police or prosecutors. It will never be politicians, editorialists or anti-gun activists who, as they believe, are never wrong and who will cling to their apriori assumptions until they are totally irrelevant.

 

[Carl N. Brown]

data on crimes by permit holders:

I do know that Texas has made a point of maintaining a database of felony and misdemeanor crimes attributed to LTC or CHL holders versus the general population.

 

[harrygunner]

Another way to look at this, the average person afraid of all those folks "running around with hidden guns", are far more likely to be criminals.

 

[RavenTai]

Kind of an odd statistic... if your average permit holder goes and commits a misdemeanor who keeps track of the fact that they are a gun owner or concealed-carry permit holder?

I'm not going to disagree with the finding but I just don't see how they could track the data of how often gun owners commit misdemeanor crimes.

The original 1987 florida concealed carry permit law required that studies of permit holders be conducted to measure thier criminal behavior. I think some other states also had this provision. The results were astounding.

I think the primary reason for this is that serious crime is committed by a small minority of people, most of these are caught and prosecuted before they reach the age to obtain a permit and therfore disqualified. When most of the serious criminals are removed the remaing normal citizens raise the curve.



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[MedWheeler]

I think the primary reason for this is that serious crime is committed by a small minority of people, most of these are caught and prosecuted before they reach the age to obtain a permit and therfore disqualified.

I doubt this. When it's so easy to plea down any or more of the first several arrest charges, I really don't think a majority of convicted felons reached that status before the age of 21. Many were likely arrested for, and charged with, felonies prior to that age, but they frequently get those charges reduced or dismissed in plea agreements.

One study on the Florida program simply opined, based on its data, that, while anyone can pretty much get away with carrying around a pistol concealed, CWFL-holders are the ones who would actually go through the hassle of becoming legal to do so, and the fact that they expended that effort, in addition to the simple law-abiding nature that prompted it, makes them likely to want even more to remain "clean" to keep the right (privilege, actually) active.

The data in that study indicated that, based on numbers alone, arrests for disqualifying crimes were 30 times more likely among non-holders, per capita, than among CWFL-holders.

 

[azrocks]

Another report citing what's otherwise known as common sense.

 

[.308 Norma]

http://blog.oregonlive.com/myoregon/2013/10/letter_conceal-carry_licenses.html
Joshua Marquis, DA Clatsop Co. OR, "Rise in concealed handgun licenses hasn't harmed public safety", Letter to The Oregonian, 15 Oct 2013.



There is what I call the ten-years-after boy-was-I-wrong phenomenon of people with honest concerns over concealed carry admitting they were wrong. It's usually police or prosecutors. It will never be politicians, editorialists or anti-gun activists who, as they believe, are never wrong and who will cling to their apriori assumptions until they are totally irrelevant.

That's for sure.

 

[Vern Humphrey]

Who is your average permit holder? A middle aged man with no criminal record, of course! Those people are highly unlikely to start committing crimes.