They Finally touched on it (Guns)
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ponyexpress
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Unfortunately for the uninformed voter they believe Kerry. What made me about toss my cookies was when Kerry claimed he was a gun owner. How can someone who has voted for 59 gun control bills claim to be a gun owner!!?
I know politicians don't have to make sense they just have to tell people what they want to hear. It just makes my head hurt some days...
I know politicians don't have to make sense they just have to tell people what they want to hear. It just makes my head hurt some days...
Harry Tuttle
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Dan Morris
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You check Kerry's voting record n you will see a VERY forked toung individual!This guy has NEVER done anything but back yhe antis. Leopards
don't swap spots!
Dan
don't swap spots!
Dan
HABU
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Try as I might, I couldnt refrain from yelling at my radio. 
Marshall
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Yea, Kerry looks like such a big time hunter.
He's such a south end of north bound mule, and that's being generous!
He's such a south end of north bound mule, and that's being generous!
Bush basically said that the ban extension was going nowhere.
Kerry said that the ban needs to be extended (in other words, "we need to force this ban down Americans' throats").
"There was a drug dealer in that house who owned an AK47" (gasp)
If we would just ban those weapons, the drug dealers would have to resort to single shot .22s, otherwise they might break the law.
Kerry said that the ban needs to be extended (in other words, "we need to force this ban down Americans' throats").
"There was a drug dealer in that house who owned an AK47" (gasp)
If we would just ban those weapons, the drug dealers would have to resort to single shot .22s, otherwise they might break the law.
BHPshooter
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Yes, the both touched on it... while Bush isn't what I'd call incredibly pro-2A, at least you know that he's telling you what he really thinks.
And Kerry (dumb@#$) goes off on AK-47s, and how cops have to trip over them every step they take... You know, they're lining the streets and they're the weapon of choice for criminals every where, blah blah blah.
*sigh* Is there any hope for the Second Amendment?
Wes
And Kerry (dumb@#$) goes off on AK-47s, and how cops have to trip over them every step they take... You know, they're lining the streets and they're the weapon of choice for criminals every where, blah blah blah.
*sigh* Is there any hope for the Second Amendment?
Wes
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Harry,
That is the funniest thing I've seen all week.
Thanks!
That is the funniest thing I've seen all week.
Thanks!
Standing Wolf
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I see no reason to insult mules by comparing them to that Kerry creature.
nico
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iirc, it's something that shoots 22lr
Thumper
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Or .22 caliber...the M-16 is considered to be Cooper's prototypical poodle shooter.
Roon
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Doncha just love the way Kerry says he's a shooter, and supports the Second, and then adds, "BUT..."
I tell ya, this is not a race to sit out. If we don't all get off our butts, we better start placing orders with Bushy and RRA, etc., etc., cause they're gonna be busy!
Ok, enough preaching.
I tell ya, this is not a race to sit out. If we don't all get off our butts, we better start placing orders with Bushy and RRA, etc., etc., cause they're gonna be busy!
Ok, enough preaching.
myrockfight
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You should of heard me hollering at the t.v. - lie, lie, lie!
Who the hell would follow someone who says he goes, "out with my trusty 12-guage double-barrl, crawl around on my stomach. I track and move and decoy and play games and try to outsmart them. You know, kind of play the wind. That's hunting." (Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, July 4, 2004)
So John. How many deer have you taken using those techniques?
If you are going to flat out lie about something, know what you are lying about. Moron.
I am sure you guys have seen the above in most gun magazines. John Kerry is a moron and a jerk. I'd love to tell him personally, face-to-face someday.
Who the hell would follow someone who says he goes, "out with my trusty 12-guage double-barrl, crawl around on my stomach. I track and move and decoy and play games and try to outsmart them. You know, kind of play the wind. That's hunting." (Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, July 4, 2004)
So John. How many deer have you taken using those techniques?
If you are going to flat out lie about something, know what you are lying about. Moron.
I am sure you guys have seen the above in most gun magazines. John Kerry is a moron and a jerk. I'd love to tell him personally, face-to-face someday.
campbellcj
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I would just LOVE to hear how many crimes were committed in the US with legally-purchased AK-47's in the last ten years
Isn't it funny how the more "liberal" a politician is, the more they seem to want to regulate/federalize/ban everything?
Isn't it funny how the more "liberal" a politician is, the more they seem to want to regulate/federalize/ban everything?
Bubbles
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Transcripts
Mr. Schieffer: Mr. President, new question, two minutes. You said that if Congress would vote to extend the ban on assault weapons that you'd sign the legislation. But you did nothing to encourage the Congress to extend it. Why not?
Mr. Bush: Actually, I made my intentions, my views clear. I did think we ought to extend the assault-weapons ban and was told the fact that the bill wasn't ever going to move. Because the Republicans and Democrats were against the assault-weapon ban, people of both parties. I believe law-abiding citizens ought to be able to own a gun. I believe in background checks at gun shows or anywhere to make sure that guns don't get in the hands of people that shouldn't have them.
But the best way to protect our citizens from guns is to prosecute those who commit crimes with guns. And that's why early in my administration I called the attorney general and the U.S. attorneys and said put together task force all around the country to prosecute those who commit crimes with guns. And the prosecutions are up by about 68 percent I believe is the number. Neighborhoods are safer when we crack down on people who commit crimes with guns. To me that's the best way to secure America.
Mr. Schieffer: Senator.
Mr. Kerry: I believe it was a failure of presidential leadership not to reauthorize the assault-weapons ban. I am a hunter. I'm a gun owner. I've been a hunter since I was a kid - 12, 13 years old. And I respect the Second Amendment, and I will not tamper with the Second Amendment. But I'll tell you this: I'm also a former law enforcement officer. I ran one of the largest district attorney offices in America, one of the 10 largest. I've put people behind bars for the rest of their life. I've broken up organized crime. I know something about prosecuting. And most of the law enforcement agencies in America wanted that assault weapons ban. They don't want to go into a drug bust and be facing an AK-47. I was hunting in Iowa last year with the sheriff of one of the counties there, and he pointed to a house in back of us and said, "See that house over there? We just did a drug bust a week earlier and the guy we arrested had an AK-47 lying on the bed right beside him." Because of the president's decision, today law enforcement officers will walk into a place that'll be more dangerous. Terrorists can now come into America and go to a gun show and without even a background check buy an assault weapon today. And that's what Osama bin Laden's handbook said, because we captured it in Afghanistan and it encouraged them to do it. So I believe America's less safe. If Tom DeLay or someone in the House said to me, Sorry, we don't have the votes, I'd have said, Then we're going to have a fight. And I'd have taken it out to the country and I'd have had every law enforcement officer in the country visit those congressmen. We'd have won what Bill Clinton won.
Mr. Schieffer: Mr. President, new question, two minutes. You said that if Congress would vote to extend the ban on assault weapons that you'd sign the legislation. But you did nothing to encourage the Congress to extend it. Why not?
Mr. Bush: Actually, I made my intentions, my views clear. I did think we ought to extend the assault-weapons ban and was told the fact that the bill wasn't ever going to move. Because the Republicans and Democrats were against the assault-weapon ban, people of both parties. I believe law-abiding citizens ought to be able to own a gun. I believe in background checks at gun shows or anywhere to make sure that guns don't get in the hands of people that shouldn't have them.
But the best way to protect our citizens from guns is to prosecute those who commit crimes with guns. And that's why early in my administration I called the attorney general and the U.S. attorneys and said put together task force all around the country to prosecute those who commit crimes with guns. And the prosecutions are up by about 68 percent I believe is the number. Neighborhoods are safer when we crack down on people who commit crimes with guns. To me that's the best way to secure America.
Mr. Schieffer: Senator.
Mr. Kerry: I believe it was a failure of presidential leadership not to reauthorize the assault-weapons ban. I am a hunter. I'm a gun owner. I've been a hunter since I was a kid - 12, 13 years old. And I respect the Second Amendment, and I will not tamper with the Second Amendment. But I'll tell you this: I'm also a former law enforcement officer. I ran one of the largest district attorney offices in America, one of the 10 largest. I've put people behind bars for the rest of their life. I've broken up organized crime. I know something about prosecuting. And most of the law enforcement agencies in America wanted that assault weapons ban. They don't want to go into a drug bust and be facing an AK-47. I was hunting in Iowa last year with the sheriff of one of the counties there, and he pointed to a house in back of us and said, "See that house over there? We just did a drug bust a week earlier and the guy we arrested had an AK-47 lying on the bed right beside him." Because of the president's decision, today law enforcement officers will walk into a place that'll be more dangerous. Terrorists can now come into America and go to a gun show and without even a background check buy an assault weapon today. And that's what Osama bin Laden's handbook said, because we captured it in Afghanistan and it encouraged them to do it. So I believe America's less safe. If Tom DeLay or someone in the House said to me, Sorry, we don't have the votes, I'd have said, Then we're going to have a fight. And I'd have taken it out to the country and I'd have had every law enforcement officer in the country visit those congressmen. We'd have won what Bill Clinton won.
Langenator
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If they have an actual AK-47, and it's not registered, they're in violation of the NFA as well.
And they're probably convicted felons (at least some of them) so there's another law they're breaking.
Criminals don't obey the law. That's why they're criminals.
And they're probably convicted felons (at least some of them) so there's another law they're breaking.
Criminals don't obey the law. That's why they're criminals.
I found the Bush position on background checks enlightening "I believe in background checks at gun shows or anywhere to make sure that guns don't get in the hands of people that shouldn't have them. "
Neighbors sellling guns to neighbors will require a background check. This doesn't sound good.
Neighbors sellling guns to neighbors will require a background check. This doesn't sound good.
Dollar Bill
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It is the same thing the Dems. have been doing for years. On the gun issue the theme is to divide and conquer with all the talk about evil "assault rifles". Even some members of my gun club are convinced and say you don't need a semi-auto rifle to hunt with. The second amendment has NOTHING to do with hunting rights, folks.
If Kerry gets elected he will try to ban what they are calling "assault rifles" When there is no impact on crime they will cry to ban "sniper rifles", or pump shotguns..etc. It is a slippery slope to a disarmed public as in the UK or in Australia.
Get out and vote, write your representatives, get involved.
If Kerry gets elected he will try to ban what they are calling "assault rifles" When there is no impact on crime they will cry to ban "sniper rifles", or pump shotguns..etc. It is a slippery slope to a disarmed public as in the UK or in Australia.
Get out and vote, write your representatives, get involved.
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