Thieves suck...

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Judging from postings on this and other gun boards, the "gun safe" has become more or less a standard accessory for those seriously interested in guns. At least, hardly anyone admits to not having a gun safe. The picture in this thread should cause some people to have second thoughts. If you don't want a top quality safe (costing lots of $$ and weighing a ton), why bother with one at all? There are other factors that are probably more important in terms of overall security.
 
AlexanderA said:
Judging from postings on this and other gun boards, the "gun safe" has become more or less a standard accessory for those seriously interested in guns. At least, hardly anyone admits to not having a gun safe. The picture in this thread should cause some people to have second thoughts. If you don't want a top quality safe (costing lots of $$ and weighing a ton), why bother with one at all? There are other factors that are probably more important in terms of overall security.
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Yep... TONS and VERY costly... or none at all.

What's yer poison?
 
Sorry, but my floor won't support a safe weighing tons. I am secure enough in my mind with my electronic locked metal locker, RSC, tin box or whatever you want to call it to ward off the meth heads, smash and grabbers, and curious kids. My good insurance policy, pictures, receipts, and serial numbers should take care of me if a true safe cracker ever shows up at my shack.
 
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IMHO, when it comes to thievery, very creative/effective "hiding" is often better than openly seen "safes
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Aside for secret rooms and stuff there's really nowhere in your home that you can hide a gun that an experienced burglar won't find it

As others have said I keep my guns in an RSC to stop the smash and grab guys but I also live in an apartment and I don’t want any of my firearms to become a target of opportunity for a sticky fingered maintenance man.
 
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One day when I build Fort Deckard in the sagebrush of Southern Utah, out where I can shoot clay pigeons off mt back deck and no one will care, the interior walls will be made of something that will stop most bullets, I will have a walk-in vault built into a basement corner of the basement.

Until then, I am using a basic Stack-On locker. It bolts into the end of the closet, and getting it out wouldn't be exactly easy. There is no space to get a pry bar on the sides, and if you try to pry it from the top side, the lever will just sink into the sheet rock of the wall. You would have to cut out the section of the wall to get it out. This would take some time even if you know how to do it. All safes are rated by how long it would take to crack them. So, yes, I wish I had a place and the cash for a serious safe, but like I tell my students, you can start with a much more humble option and it will do the job just fine.
 
all the time it took the bad guys to break in, find the safe, move it out to the truck.... where were the cops? surely the alarm with back up battery sounded and sent the trouble signal.... oh, they didn't have an alarm?
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FWIW I live rural, where it was found, LEO = 30m response time if your lucky
 
That safe looks like it's been there a while.

For those saying the police are going to take fingerprints or tool marks, to be honest they'll just take a report on it, and if anyone reported anything stolen and gave them the serial numbers, they can call them if they retrieve it from someone. They don't have the time or money.

Wouldn't homeowners insurance cover the firearms?
 
Looks like some type of dead animals head is sticking out from under the safe on the right side???????


--- its a very rear giantis albino flat worm
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didn't notice anything, however the picture definitely shows something with eyes. (?). It's far too wet for LEO to try to remove the safe. So I may have double check just what the heck that is in the AM
 
Really, if they had time to get it out of the house and out into the woods, there's very little that could have prevented them getting that thing open. Once you can make noise and get industrial tools to it, damned near anything can be opened.

Determination...

Larry
 
If you don't want a top quality safe (costing lots of $$ and weighing a ton), why bother with one at all?
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Well, I'm not under any illusions that anything is fail safe, but I do think even a steel cabinet bolted to the floor is better than nothing. That opinion is going on the theory that most thieves want to get in and out quickly, and just slowing them down may deter them from getting into it.
Obviously it wouldn't do any good with whoever got into the one in the pic. But hey, something is better than nothing and you have to keep your guns somewhere. Plus it will keep them locked and out of childrens' hands.
 
Looks like some type of dead animals head is sticking out from under the safe on the right side???????
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That's a reflection of the sky on the water around the box.

It's a very straight cut around the box right there at the top of the door line. Straighter than using a sawzall or an angle grinder with a metal-cutting blade. Which only makes me go "hmmmm" a bit more. Like how the top is only 7/8 cut off.

Wondering, cynically, if this could be insurance scamery--another vile form of theft.
 
Safes will deter amateurs and thieves looking for a quick score but if they're not bolted down, they're not going to stop a prepared thief.

Safes that are bolted down are a good deal more secure and, assuming they're relatively good quality will probably prevent most thieves from gaining access.
 
No, they wouldn't likely go to the trouble to run the safe through the crime lab UNLESS they had a suspect and some tools they were trying to match up. They wouldn't do it to FIND a suspect, but it is much more likely they would to it to CONFIRM a suspect.
 
Yep, that's a mighty straight-looking cut alright. Like maybe a circular saw with a metal cutting blade? That box looks like it screamed like a little girl and gave up quickly.
 
Just because someone ditched a busted open safe doesn't mean any crime occurred beyond maybe littering. The rightful owner could have had trouble with the lock, sawed it open and ditched it to avoid tipping fees at the landfill. If you call to report it, I doubt if LEO would process it as a crime scene without a reported crime. Even if they do, lifting a latent print most likely will prove difficult if the safe has been out in the elements very long. Then, even if they did lift a print with no crime tied to it they wouldn't run it thru NCIC. And even if they did run it thru NCIC, it would do no good right now if the suspect has never been arrested and processed....Fingerprinting doesn't exactly work like on TV where some cop lifts a print and within 2 minutes the picture of the suspect pops up on his desktop....To the OP: Don't let my aforementioned dribble prevent you from calling LEO's. It will be useful if a crime did occur.
 
Likely I installed some smuggling compartments below my floorboard so when the evil empire comes to take my guns they will just walk around my apartment and not find a thing, whilst I whistle Dixie to myself.

Cooldill
 
Mine's bolted to the slab and studs. Heavy. Doesn't mean they couldn't cut through it with some serious power tools and time, or break it free of its fasteners.

They would be disappointed with its contents, I'm afraid. Very disappointed.

I hope the safe in the woods was empty if burglary was involved. That would be a once in a lifetime "what goes around comes around" Kodak moment.
 
If it was rained on, there won't be any prints. The person that it was stolen from would have to come forward and have the police look through their house for usable prints.
 
Surely there was a police report filed in some nearby community for the theft of a Cannon safe? The previous owners shouldn't be a big mystery...and if they are then maybe that safe wasn't holding guns.
 
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