Thin 9mm w/ Shorter Trigger Pull than Kahr

[averagebear]

I have not been able to shoot accurately with my Kahr CW9. The long trigger pull is distracting. Is there a pistol the size of the Kahr with a much shorter trigger pull? I'm a lefty, so any suggested pistol needs to be lefty-friendly. Any action type would be acceptable, if it has a - better for me - trigger.

 

[Dean1818]

Practice.......Practice.......practice

You will learn the trigger of the Kahr, which IMHO.... is a GREAT choice for IWB CCW

 

[Zerodefect]

HK PSP P7

Lefty approved, super light trigger. Expensive, but no more than a fancy 1911.

 

[FCastle88]

The Kahr trigger pull isn't really that long, especially compared to it's main competition, the Kel-Tec PF9 and Ruger LC9. The Walther PPS has a Glock-like trigger, but it's a bit larger than the CW9, and more expensive. The Springfield EMP has a nice SA trigger, but it's a lot more expensive. That's pretty much all I can think of.

 

[usp9]

Walther PPS

 

[MCgunner]

If you can't shoot a Kahr and you're unwilling to practice, consider Karate. Can't shoot your leg in karate. I'd not even recommend a single action condition one without a lot of practice...for safety, not necessarily for shooting skill.

 

[jbr]

I had the same problem - bought a taurus pt 709 and love it - takes about three mags to get the feel for the trigger . I shoot it much more accurately. I did like the Kahr better than the Ruger. Everybody keeps saying - practice, practice etc... but i didn't like the trigger - it was much different from all my other guns - and i did not want to have to concentrate that hard to pull off a shot - if it comes to it, i may be occupied with other things. Everybody with a Kahr thinks they are the end all be all of CC guns but mine wouldn't load from a slingshot - "feature" and i just didn't like the trigger. Theat's why they make different kinds - have fun trying them all out

 

[ATBackPackin]

I also have a Kahr CW9 and think it's a fantastic carry gun. I will admit that the trigger pull is a bit long, but it is extremely smooth. It can take some getting use to, I know it did with me, and only you know if you have given it a fair chance. Once I got really comfortable with it, about the end of the break in period, I found it to be super accurate and I really dig the bar dot sights. It is light, slim, unbelievably easy to conceal, and for its size has great control.

However if you find it really isn't the gun for you, the Walther PPS is another fantastic carry gun for a couple hundred dollars more.

Good luck.
Shawn

 

[averagebear]

Thanks for the Recommendations

The pistols you recommended will be checked out! Thank you all. With 60 years of shooting under my belt, I still find that I have limited my view.

 

[Cards81fan]

The PPS is what came to mind for me. Also has a trigger guard mag release, which makes it ambidextrous in that regard. As slim as the Kahr, perhaps a bit longer grip than the PM series.

 

[KAS1981]

The Kahr trigger really isn't very long. It's much shorter than my Ruger LC9.

The only other 9mm in that size range that has a better trigger IMO is the Taurus 709.

 

[71Commander]

Springfield EMP in 9mm.

 

[harmon rabb]

The only other 9mm in that size range that has a better trigger IMO is the Taurus 709.

the taurus 709's trigger pull is long though, even though it's all slack until right at the end.

Springfield EMP in 9mm.

Well, that's definitely the best trigger you'll find on a concealable single stack 9mm, but it's a larger gun than the kahr.

 

[WRGADog]

Walther PPS

one of the slimest pistols available, and has a very good trigger.

 

[FIVETWOSEVEN]

Dry fire is your friend, as I tell others. Pick a target with your unloaded gun, steadily pull the trigger back while keeping the sights level, if they go off then pull it back back while retaining a steady trigger pull. As you do this, you'll be able to do this faster while retaining a good sight picture. This is the best way to get good with heavy long triggers.

 

[VA27]

The only trigger pull shorter than the Kahr that I can think of is the Glock/SmithM&P type, followed by something 1911ish.

The Kahr has about half the length of pull compared to any DA revolver, Sig DA or Smith 39 based guns.

The Kahrs I've had were excellent shooters and very accurate, due in part to their smooth and short trigger pulls.

All you need is some serious practice time and possibly some coaching from someone who knows what to look for in your technique.

 

[TonyT]

Being an old revolver shooter I look at the Kahr trigger as close to ideal. It resembles an ultra smooth and light DA trigger pull on a revolver.

 

[Lefty Wright]

Had a CW9, PM9 and a PPS. All nice guns, but they don't hold a candle to a 3" or 4" 1911 in 9mm. Go for a Kimber Ultra CDPII or Pro Carry II in 9mm. Easier to conceal, super trigger and much more comfortable to shoot.

 

[Apocalypse-Now]

SA emp40


the kahr trigger pulls are actually longer than they used to be, and they were seriously long to being with. not sure if it's all models, or just the one i looked though.

by the time you get done pulling the trigger, the police will be there to save you from the robber

 

[Ben86]

The best trigger of the thin 9mms out these days goes to the Taurus 709 slim IMO. It has a SA/DA trigger. The pull is mostly weightless take up and then a crisp, light break. Only if you pull the trigger again on a dud does it revert to DA which isn't bad either. You ought to check it out.

The Kahr trigger pull can take some getting used to. I like though, to me it's like a finely tuned DA revolver trigger. You ought to give it some more time, Kahrs are great guns.

 

[wow6599]

the kahr trigger pulls are actually longer than they used to be, and they were seriously long to being with. not sure if it's all models, or just the one i looked though.

by the time you get done pulling the trigger, the police will be there to save you from the robber

I'm betting you're in the minority with this statement. Kahr's (IMO) have the best DAO triggers on the market today. Maybe you got a hold of a bad one?

 

[Pilot]

The Kahr's trigger as well as other DAO triggers are what keep me from buying them. I am sure I could get used to it, but then I'd be trained for something different from ALL my other pistols.

I echo the recommendation on the HK P7. Bite the bullet and spend the $600 - $700 for a nice, used surplus PSP, and get a good holster for it. You will be amazed. Either that, or a Walther PPS for about the same $$$, should work nicely, and will be a bit easier to carry due to less weight.

 

[usp9]

the kahr trigger pulls are actually longer than they used to be...

That statement is not accurate. Until recently all Kahrs except the K series had the same trigger. The K9 and K40 did come standard with a longer pull and was offered with the standard shorter pull trigger as an option. That feature has now been reversed, with the standard trigger now the norm and the longer pull as the option. This applied only to the "K" models.

So now, all Kahrs are produced with the shorter pull trigger as the standard.

 

[rellascout]

Springfield EMP 9mm would fit the bill. Pricey at around $1000 depending on your market but it is a quality 1911 like pistol built from the ground up for the 9mm and 40 S&W round.

 

[kokapelli]

Get what works best for you but I purchased a PM9 because of the trigger and it works great for me.